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	<title>The GMAT Club &#187; investment banking</title>
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		<title>What car are you driving through your debt- building MBA years?, Industry Job or Consulting – which one is better?, Impact of BooZ &#8211; A.T.Kearney Merger on Recruiting, Recommenders – who should you ask?, IB in the US – how many days off per year on average</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[- Industry Job or Consulting - which one is better?
- Impact of BooZ - A.T.Kearney Merger on Recruiting
- Recommenders - who should you ask?
- IB in the US - how many days off per year on average?
- What car are you driving through your debt-building MBA years?
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<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12px">- <a href="http://gmatclub.com/lists/lt.php?id=KRoDBVIEAAZYGgIFVEwFA1sEVA%3D%3D" target="_blank"><span style="COLOR: #0000ff"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Impact of BooZ</span></span></a> <span style="COLOR: #000000">- A.T.Kearney Merger on Recruiting</span></span><br />
<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12px">- <a href="http://gmatclub.com/lists/lt.php?id=KRoDBVIEAAVRGgIFVEwFA1sEVA%3D%3D" target="_blank"><span style="COLOR: #0000ff"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Recommenders</span></span></a> <span style="COLOR: #000000">- who should you ask?</span></span><br />
<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12px">- <a href="http://gmatclub.com/lists/lt.php?id=KRoDBVIEAAVQGgIFVEwFA1sEVA%3D%3D" target="_blank"><span style="COLOR: #0000ff"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">IB in the US</span></span></a> <span style="COLOR: #000000">- how many days off per year on average?<br />
- </span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px"><a href="http://gmatclub.com/lists/lt.php?id=KRoDBVIEAAVSGgIFVEwFA1sEVA%3D%3D" target="_blank"><span style="COLOR: #0000ff"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">What car are you driving</span></span></a> <span style="COLOR: #000000">through your debt-building MBA years?</span></span></div>
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		<title>Why MBA?, LBS vs HEC: Specialized Masters in Management, Investment Banking Interviews for Dummies, NYC Meet-Up for MBA Applicants</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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Why MBA? &#8211; one of the hardest application questions to answer
LBS vs HEC &#8211; which is better for a specialized masters in management
Investment Banking Interviews for Dummies &#8211; frequently asked questions
NYC Meet-Up for MBA Applicants - helpful coordinating tips
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>MBA</strong></span><br />
<a href="http://gmatclub.com/forum/why-mba-84855.html?view-post=635835#p635835" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Why MBA?</span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"> &#8211; one of the hardest application questions to answer</span><br />
<a href="http://gmatclub.com/forum/london-business-school-masters-in-management-83480.html?view-post=693163#p693163" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LBS vs HEC</span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"> &#8211; which is better for a specialized masters in management</span><br />
<a href="http://gmatclub.com/forum/investment-banking-interview-for-dummies-75250.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Investment Banking Interviews for Dummies</span></span></a><span style="color: #000000;"> &#8211; frequently asked questions</span><br />
<a href="http://gmatclub.com/forum/nyc-meet-up-for-mba-applicants-90700.html?view-post=694054#p694054" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">NYC Meet-Up for MBA Applicants</span></span></a> <span style="color: #000000;">- helpful coordinating tips</span></p>
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		<title>NYU Stern Changes Face</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NYU Stern was hit particularly hard during the financial crisis, mainly because of its proximity (both in location and in interests) to NYC&#8217;s Wall Street. Now, according to a recent article in BusinessWeek, Dean Peter Henry (the new NYU Stern Dean as of January 15), is working towards creating a more global educational profile with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.accepted.com/mba/NYUStern.aspx">NYU Stern</a> was hit particularly hard during the financial crisis, mainly because of its proximity (both in location and in interests) to NYC&#8217;s Wall Street. Now, according to a recent article in <em><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/jan2010/bs20100125_345247.htm?campaign_id=bschools_related" target="_blank">BusinessWeek</a></em>,<em> </em>Dean Peter Henry (the new NYU Stern Dean as of January 15), is working towards creating a more global educational profile with a lower dependence on investment banking.</p>
<p>In short, Dean Henry is attempting to remove Stern&#8217;s reputation as a &#8220;finance school&#8221; and instead transform the school (and its reputation) into a more diverse program that doesn&#8217;t just churn out students for careers in finance, but for a wide range of other career fields as well.</p>
<p>In 2007, 44% of Stern graduates entered investment banking. In 2008 that number was down to 37%. In 2009, only 32% entered that same field.</p>
<p>In 2008 only 8% of Stern graduates did not receive a job offer three months after graduating. In 2009 that number jumped up to 18%.</p>
<p>Relying on investment banking is just not as wise as it once was.</p>
<p>The challenge of transforming the Stern class profile is a twofold challenge: First, restructuring the career services department—this will require the addition of many new resources as new recruiting relationships need to be forged in new industries. The second challenge is more difficult—the restructuring of the academic program itself. These changes will require getting new faculty members and shifting around management duties, in addition to the actual changes that need to be made in the curriculum.</p>
<p>Students for the most part are welcoming these changes with open arms. Stern graduates are somewhat notorious for taking jobs in North America alone and perhaps look forward to the program&#8217;s forthcoming global footprint expansion.</p>
<p>The new dean makes it clear that despite his ambitious plans to expand Stern&#8217;s program and diversity, one should not conclude that he plans on severing relationships with Wall Street. In fact, Henry says &#8220;he will continue to strengthen relationships with Wall Street and the finance sector in general.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thomas Cooley, Professor of Economics and former Stern dean reflects on Stern&#8217;s past and present situation. He explains that this is not the first time that Stern was faced with such a challenge. In the last decade, he explains, when everyone was turning towards the dot-coms, Goldman Sachs actually had trouble recruiting.</p>
<p>Cooley ends by making two final points: First, he says, &#8220;[w]hatever you think the world is right now, hold on because it can change very quickly. And second, &#8220;Stern will always tilt slightly toward Wall Street, but then again most business schools do.</p>
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		<title>The GMAT, Jobs, and Admissions</title>
		<link>http://gmatclub.com/blog/2009/10/the-gmat-jobs-and-admissions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BusinessWeek recently published an excellent article, GMAT: The MBA Job Seeker&#8217;s Best Friend, 
exploring the impact of GMAT scores on post-MBA job prospects and the reality that some business school are encouraging accepted students to retake the GMAT to improve their chances of getting desired jobs.
What is the role of GMAT scores in job recruiting. Recruiters at certain [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>BusinessWeek</em> recently published an excellent article, <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/oct2009/bs20091019_412671.htm">GMAT: The MBA Job Seeker&#8217;s Best Friend, </a><br />
exploring the impact of GMAT scores on post-MBA job prospects and the reality that some business school are encouraging accepted students to retake the GMAT to improve their chances of getting desired jobs.</p>
<p>What is the role of GMAT scores in job recruiting. Recruiters at certain elite strategy consulting firms and investment banks use the GMAT as an early-stage screening tool. BW makes clear that a high GMAT will not land a job offer, but a low GMAT could prevent you from getting that first interview at the most competitive banks and consulting firms. The article hints that 700 is the cut-off.</p>
<p>Steve, author of <a href="http://sgargiulo.wordpress.com/about/">The 2012 MBA  Applicant</a> blog, shrewdly observes in  <a title="The GMAT is becoming more important" rel="bookmark" href="http://sgargiulo.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/the-gmat-is-becoming-more-important/">The GMAT is becoming more important</a> &#8220;So this is a heads up to all those who plan on &#8216;making it rain&#8217; for the rest of their lives…you better have the GMAT score necessary to get into the club!&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s so right. Firm reliance on the GMAT score as a screening mechanism has another consequence, not discussed in the article. Because admissions offices in our tough economy are weighing post-MBA employability more heavily, they want to admit applicants with realistic goals. If you have a 680 GMAT and say you want to work for Goldman or McKinsey, then you may be perceived as unrealistic &#8212; particularly at programs with average GMATs at matriculation of over 700.</p>
<p>I have spoken with many admissions directors who would reject otherwise admissible applicants whom they deemed unrealistic. Others view applicants with a mismatch between their GMAT score and their goals as candidates who hadn&#8217;t done their homework and consequently are uninformed. In either case, the lack of information/realism seemed more damaging than the GMAT score itself.</p>
<p>When presenting your goals, be informed. Be real.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial;font-size: x-small"><span style="font-size: 10pt;font-family: Arial"><em><span style="font-style: italic"><span>By</span> <span>Linda</span> <span>Abraham</span>, founder and president of <a href="http://www.accepted.com/mba" target="_blank">Accepted.com</a>.</span></em></span></span></p>
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		<title>Special Report: Applying to B-School in Times of Crisis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since September the Accepted Admissions Almanac has posted frequently about the impact of the financial crisis on MBA admissions, hiring, and financial aid. We have collected these posts in a free special report Applying to Business School in Times of Crisis.
You will find in the special report articles on:

Applying while or after a layoff.
The series [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since September the Accepted Admissions Almanac has posted frequently about the impact of the financial crisis on MBA admissions, hiring, and financial aid. We have collected these posts in a <strong>free </strong>special report <a title="http://www.accepted.com/mba/applyingbschoolcrisis.pdf" href="http://www.accepted.com/mba/applyingbschoolcrisis.pdf" target="_blank"><em>Applying to Business School in Times of Crisis</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p>You will find in the special report articles on:</p>
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<li>Applying while or after a layoff.</li>
<li>The series &#8220;MBA in Finance: Forget It?&#8221;</li>
<li>The disappearance and reappearance of financial aid options.</li>
<li>The wisdom of applying during times of financial uncertainly.</li>
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<p>Please feel free to <a href="http://www.accepted.com/mba/applyingbschoolcrisis.pdf">download and share <em>Applying to Business School in Times of Crisis.</em></a></p>
<p>Please also use the comments to share your thoughts on the topics discussed in this special report.</p>
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		<title>No Co-Signor Loans for Int&#8217;l MBA Students</title>
		<link>http://gmatclub.com/blog/2009/03/no-co-signor-loans-for-intl-mba-students/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, what you&#8217;ve all been waiting for&#8230; GMAC announced today a new loan program for international students. To quote the press release:
&#8220;Responding to a request from the Graduate Management Admission Council® (GMAC®), a leading international bank has joined with experienced service providers in student financial aid to create a new pilot lending program for international [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, what you&#8217;ve all been waiting for&#8230; GMAC announced today a <a href="http://gmac.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&amp;item=65">new loan program for international students.</a> To quote the press release:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Responding to a request from the Graduate Management Admission Council® (GMAC®), a leading international bank has joined with experienced service providers in student financial aid to create a new pilot lending program for international students who attend graduate business schools around the world.</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>The pilot is prepared to provide at least $500 million in loans to students in about 40 business schools in the United States and Europe, beginning with the 2009-10 academic year.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;International students, who comprise a high percentage of all U.S. graduate business school enrollment, have been especially hard-hit by the financial crisis. They are not eligible for federal loans and several major lenders have terminated the &#8220;no-cosigner&#8221; student loan programs that were widely used by this group.</p>
<p>&#8220;The new lending structure is designed to be school-centric and school-controlled and is not dependent on any particular bank or group of banks. <strong>Students who borrow under the program will not be required to secure co-signers.</strong> Schools involved in the program will not own loans, incur up-front costs, or have liability for individual loan defaults.</p>
<p>&#8220;A key participant in the project is Kevin Moehn of Moehn Management, Inc., a new company established to bring lending organizations together to facilitate student loans through a program that &#8220;delivers a sustainable and dependable structure for business schools to finance international students.&#8217;&#8221; Emphasis added.</p></blockquote>
<p>The press release did not indicate which 40 schools will participate in the program.</p>
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		<title>MBA in Finance: Forget It? No!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regular readers of this blog know that last Thursday I started a short series, &#8221;MBA in Finance: Forget It?&#8221; I posed a less provocative version of that question to several admissions directors and with their permission posted their responses. While their replies varied and emphasized different points, they were all thoughtful, and a few concepts were [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular readers of this blog know that last Thursday I started a short series, &#8221;MBA in Finance: Forget It?&#8221; I posed a less provocative version of that question to several admissions directors and with their permission posted their responses. While their replies varied and emphasized different points, they were all thoughtful, and a few concepts were consistent for almost all:</p>
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<li>Don&#8217;t forget finance and investment banking! It is critical to business. It may be down, but it&#8217;s not dead. It will resurrect itself in a new form, but it won&#8217;t disappear.</li>
<li>Be prepared to discuss intelligently the challenges in the field.</li>
<li>Have a <em>realistic </em>plan for achieving your goal.</li>
<li>Most indicated that a Plan B, especially for career changers, is a good idea.</li>
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<p>To further the last point, we received several detailed interview reports today in the <a href="http://www.accepted.com/mba/interviewfeedback.aspx">MBA Interview Feedback Database</a>, including one for <a href="http://www.accepted.com/mba/interviews/search_details.asp?IntID=9774&amp;bhcp=1">NYU</a>. As if on cue, this applicant wrote in response to &#8220;What was the most difficult question [in your interview]?&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Given today&#8217;s economy, what is your Plan B if you can&#8217;t get the summer internship or job that you are interested in? Even though I was prepared to answer this question, my interviewer mentioned that a lot of prospective MBA students are so locked into their plan that it&#8217;s almost like tunnel vision and they haven&#8217;t giving much thought to a back-up plan.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Yale&#8217;s Bruce DelMonico: Finance from an Admissions Perspective</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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Given the weakness in investment banking, hedge funds, and financial services in general, how do you react to applicants who say they want an MBA to enter IB, PE or a related field that has been devastated by the economic downturn? Is the reaction &#8220;What [...]]]></description>
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<p>My question:</p>
<blockquote><p>Given the weakness in investment banking, hedge funds, and financial services in general, how do you react to applicants who say they want an MBA to enter IB, PE or a related field that has been devastated by the economic downturn? Is the reaction &#8220;What planet have you been on?&#8221; Or, are you willing to consider those applicants because you feel the market for these skills will come back in a couple of years?  Would you like to know that IB et.al. is the primary goal? Would you like to see a Plan B? Is your reaction different if the applicant is coming from IB or a related field as opposed to someone seeking the MBA to change careers?</p></blockquote>
<p>Bruce DelMonico, Director of Admissions at Yale&#8217;s School of Management, responds:</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your email.  That’s a really good question.  Our reaction is definitely not “what planet have you been on.”  We understand that finance hiring is down right now, but i-banking, private equity, and finance generally are not going away, so we want to make sure we continue to train future leaders in these areas.  The same firms that came to campus to recruit last year are back this year (other than, of course, those like Lehman and Merrill that have morphed into Barclay’s and B of A).  They are still making offers and hiring our students, just not always as many as in the past, for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>What they and other companies who recruit here tell us that they learned from the last downturn, where they stopped hiring entirely and realized later that there was a gap in their talent pool.  So firms may be scaling back in their hiring given the current financial situation, but they realize that they still need to cultivate talent and promote a steady stream of employees through their ranks.  We’re taking the same attitude – finance may be down right now, but it’s not out, and we want to be there helping with the solution.  It may be easier and more natural to run away from the industry because it’s down, but I think the better – and bolder – move is to stay in when things are down and try to figure out how to make them better.  That’s what we hope our finance students will do.</p>
<p>That got a bit philosophical near the end.  But the bottom line is that we’re not trying to market-time things here – we want to bring in the strongest class possible.  Who knows what the economy will be like two years from now, when these students will graduate.  If they’re strong candidates and can articulate a compelling reason why they want to go to business school, we will give them a hard look.  In terms of people coming from i-banking versus those who are changing careers, for everyone we look for the same thing: are you willing to put in the effort to make your goals a reality?  It’s very tough to go straight into a hedge fund or PE firm from business school (although we do have, for example, a first year who beat out a lot of top candidates from other schools to land an internship this summer at Paulson &amp; Co, so it is possible).  Students should be willing to take the steps necessary to position themselves for success.  So if they don’t have a finance background, they need to know that they’re not going to jump straight into PE.  They need to get more general finance exposure first, build their skill set, and work their way up.  The same with students who have a finance background but who want to move higher up in the finance food chain.  It’s a matter of being patient, having a plan, and then executing on it.  We’re looking for people who understand this and are willing to put in the effort.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of an ongoing series &#8220;MBA in Finance: Forget It?&#8221;
My question:
Given the weakness in investment banking, hedge funds, and financial services in general, how do you react to applicants who say they want an MBA to enter IB, PE, or a related field that has been devastated by the economic downturn? Is the reaction &#8220;What [...]]]></description>
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<p>My question:</p>
<blockquote><p>Given the weakness in investment banking, hedge funds, and financial services in general, how do you react to applicants who say they want an MBA to enter IB, PE, or a related field that has been devastated by the economic downturn? Is the reaction &#8220;What planet have you been on?&#8221; Or, are you willing to consider those applicants because you feel the market for these skills will come back in a couple of years?  Would you like to know that IB et.al. is the primary goal? Would you like to see a Plan B? Is your reaction different if the applicant is coming from IB or a related field as opposed to someone seeking the MBA to change careers?</p></blockquote>
<p>Rod Garcia, Director of MBA Admissions at MIT&#8217;s Sloan School of Management, responds:</p>
<blockquote><p><span class="il">On</span> the contrary, we don&#8217;t react negatively to candidates who want to be in financial services. There are still jobs in finance; it&#8217;s just not in Wall Street anymore. I see this period much like October 87; the people who wanted to study finance are the ones who are serious about learning the fields rather than going to it because of bonuses. So, from MIT&#8217;s standpoint, we look at them kindly.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>My question:</p>
<blockquote><p>Given the weakness in investment banking, hedge funds, and financial services in general, how do you react to applicants who say they want an MBA to enter IB, PE or a related field that has been devastated by the economic downturn? Is the reaction &#8220;What planet have you been on?&#8221; Or, are you willing to consider those applicants because you feel the market for these skills will come back in a couple of years?  Would you like to know that IB et.al. is the primary goal? Would you like to see a Plan B? Is your reaction different if the applicant is coming from IB or a related field as opposed to someone seeking the MBA to change careers?</p></blockquote>
<p>The response from Peter Johnson, Director of MBA Admissions at <a href="http://www.accepted.com/mba/UCBerkeleyHaas.aspx">UC Berkeley&#8217;s Haas School of Business:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks for writing and for your question, which I&#8217;m sure is on the mind of a number of candidates.</p>
<p>Despite the current challenges in the financial services industry, there are still great opportunities as well, and I do expect the industry to recover over the next two years.  It won&#8217;t be the same, however&#8211;Wall Street will reinvent itself, and I think it&#8217;s hard to guess how the investment banking industry will emerge from the current crisis. Suffice it to say, there will be great opportunities for the right people.</p>
<p>As with all candidates, we are always looking at the underlying motivations for career direction.  If an applicant wants to switch careers, do they really seem to understand what their target industry is all about?  Has their past work experience given them the opportunity to begin developing the necessary skills? Do they understand that challenges they will face in pursuing the career they seek?</p>
<p>If a candidate can demonstrate a legitimate interest in a financial services career and can demonstrate that they understand the challenges they will face and how we might help them to prepare, they&#8217;ll be just as attractive this year as they were in the past&#8211;in fact, perhaps more attractive, since we know they are not pursuing a career only because they think it&#8217;s a guaranteed route to a lucrative career, but instead based on professional challenge, satisfaction and financial reward.</p></blockquote>
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