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#1 for Finance... Chicago GSB or Wharton??

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#1 for Finance... Chicago GSB or Wharton?? [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 04:14
I have heard some say that Wharton is #1 for finance... I am interested in why this is a common belief...

Just thinking about modern financial/economic theory

Milton Friedman's Monetarism
Miller-Migdolani, Fama-French, and others on the Capital Asset Pricing Model
Black, Scholes, Merton for Options...

So much modern financial theory and a huge number of Nobel Prize winners come from one place... Chicago! Why then doesn't GSB overwhelmingly rank #1?

I'm not trying to be opinionated... I am ligitimately interest... Help me out!
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 04:36
I know what you mean Mark. Chicago does dominate for retrospective ground-breaking research from the school.

But whatever edge they had from developing these is long gone. I learned and wrote essays on CAPM at University.

Its the difference between legacy and now, and what benefit you get from an MBA rather than a PhD and such. Chicago is bagging Nobel prizes for work done 20 years ago. The question is who will be bagging them in 20 years time.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 05:24
Well, we know GSB is better because I'm not going to Wharton, so it must be better. :)

I think they are, honestly, equals - or that any true difference is negligible. I think the perception that W is better than chicago tends to come from the continued propogation of the moniker H/S/W.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 06:33
Chicago still has the leading faculty in finance. Yeah they had all those old-timers, but to say that they no longer have the leading innovators is false (from what I've read in publications)

I think Wharton is regarded as #1 in finance because they are the best at putting their students in top finance positions (I don't know if this is entirely true. Just going off hearsay.)

But education-wise and learning from the innovators in finance... Chicago is best.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 06:57
Wharton name goes a VERY long way.

However, judging from my knowledge, GSB has a better curriculum and better instructors.

The difference between two schools is very minor, they both sit on the throne of Finance oriented MBA kingdom.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 09:48
My sense is that Wharton has a better professional reputation, while Chicago has the advantage in theory.
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Re: #1 for Finance... Chicago GSB or Wharton?? [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 09:48
Your question contains the answer...MBA finance is not about theory but application ! That's where Wharton kicks ass...

Mark4124 wrote:
I have heard some say that Wharton is #1 for finance... I am interested in why this is a common belief...

Just thinking about modern financial/economic theory

Milton Friedman's Monetarism
Miller-Migdolani, Fama-French, and others on the Capital Asset Pricing Model
Black, Scholes, Merton for Options...

So much modern financial theory and a huge number of Nobel Prize winners come from one place... Chicago! Why then doesn't GSB overwhelmingly rank #1?

I'm not trying to be opinionated... I am ligitimately interest... Help me out!
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 10:03
Well... probably doesn't hurt when investment managers are finishing up their CFA, deciding who to hire for analysts, and come accross Chicago everywhere in their study.

Here at Fidelity of Portfolio managers...

Wharton 14
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 10:08
BAH. GSB ALL THE WAY.

Wharton sucks because it sounds like some kind of disease.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 10:46
Rhyme is a GSB groupie.

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BAH. GSB ALL THE WAY.

Wharton sucks because it sounds like some kind of disease.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 11:00
You know it.

lhotseface wrote:
Rhyme is a GSB groupie.

rhyme wrote:
BAH. GSB ALL THE WAY.

Wharton sucks because it sounds like some kind of disease.
"Hey you hear that Tom's out sick?"
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 15:26
gmatclb - please share what you consider to be GSBs groundbreaking theory it has developed recently.

This isn't interview crap or anything, I am genuinely interested in what you think is going to be groundbreaking theory, and beyond that stuff that will be part of your MBA.

Option pricing = big game
Credit derivatives = big game

Economics =/ Finance (I am an economics major, I will argue this point)

Honestly, I am facinated to see what there is going on now, as I have little time to read papers.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 16:48
Somewhere in the specialty rankings I always see
Wharton = 1st in Finance
Chicago = 1st in Accounting
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 17:50
I wasn't implying that Chicago GSB put out some ground-breaking work recently. Although, I am interested to know.

What I meant is that some winners of the Nobel Prize still teach at the school.

And one of the "old" ideas never caught on with the rest of the investment world. The Efficient Markets Theory.

I truly believe in this theory especially nowadays with all the information within our fingertips.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2007, 18:27
I completely disagree that the efficent markets theory is not accepted. Many believe in the efficent market's theory. It is the basis for books like "A Random Walk on Wall St." and the basis for passive/index strategies. My friend works for AARP-Financial... they base their whole company on the efficent market premise.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2007, 00:43
Well, it is good to believe in the EMH. But you can never really prove it as empirical data cannot show the flows properly.

Its more of a cognitive theory that makes sense, than something you could ever contemplate writing a proof on.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2007, 03:41
Oh... I don't believe in Efficent Market theory myself... I want to be an investment manager :) Active management is pretty much EMH hersay. But plenty of people do. Thats what all those damn index funds are all about.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2007, 06:35
Mark4124 wrote:
I completely disagree that the efficent markets theory is not accepted. Many believe in the efficent market's theory. It is the basis for books like "A Random Walk on Wall St." and the basis for passive/index strategies. My friend works for AARP-Financial... they base their whole company on the efficent market premise.



Many people do believe in the efficient market theory. But if you look at the investment world as a whole, most people are active managers. I've never seen a poll, but based on observation, I would guess active managers outnumber passive managers 9-1....at best.

Almost all of the investment managers out there believe that markets are efficient to some extent. But the true believers of this theory are passive managers.
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