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59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2007, 04:40
C and D are grammatically wrong.
A & E are wordy.

I go for B.
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2007, 22:53
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Guys, this question was asked a few times.
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59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it


got B for the answer
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

it - refers to grip
their - refers back to the French
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 00:40
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bmw, thanks for bringing the question back!
OA is B

Lets see B:
Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Oranges agree with each other
Blues agree with each other

beckee, the above is slightly different to what you stated; you may wish to revisit or show that I am bullsh*tting :-D

For analysis of other choice, see below:
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59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
wrong usage of contional sentence -"was" is wrongly used; change of meaning via "insecure"
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure CORRECT -OA!
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
wrong usage of contional sentence; "was not ever"?? -out!
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
"that" is ambiguous; badly constructed
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it
inverted; does not tally well with ununderlined section;wrong usage of contional sentence
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 10:23
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botirvoy wrote:
bmw, thanks for bringing the question back!
OA is B

Lets see B:
Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Oranges agree with each other
Blues agree with each other

beckee, the above is slightly different to what you stated; you may wish to revisit or show that I am bullsh*tting :-D

For analysis of other choice, see below:
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59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
wrong usage of contional sentence -"was" is wrongly used; change of meaning via "insecure"
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure CORRECT -OA!
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
wrong usage of contional sentence; "was not ever"?? -out!
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
"that" is ambiguous; badly constructed
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it
inverted; does not tally well with ununderlined section;wrong usage of contional sentence


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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2007, 01:08
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Two thumbs up to the coloring scheme AND the explanation! Good job!!

thanks :)
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2007, 04:18
Good one. Straight up B :-)
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2007, 06:15
botirvoy wrote:
bmw, thanks for bringing the question back!
OA is B

Lets see B:
Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Oranges agree with each other
Blues agree with each other

beckee, the above is slightly different to what you stated; you may wish to revisit or show that I am bullsh*tting :-D

For analysis of other choice, see below:
botirvoy wrote:

59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
wrong usage of contional sentence -"was" is wrongly used; change of meaning via "insecure"
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure CORRECT -OA!
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
wrong usage of contional sentence; "was not ever"?? -out!
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
"that" is ambiguous; badly constructed
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it
inverted; does not tally well with ununderlined section;wrong usage of contional sentence


whooooooops you are right!!!!!! it refers to MOROCCO... thanks for the explanation :thanks

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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2007, 07:25
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whooooooops you are right!!!!!! it refers to Algeria... thanks for the explanation :thanks


No, no! "it" refers to "Morocco"!

ps: what have you been smoking recently? :lol:

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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2007, 07:38
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Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it


I too take B but on different ground. apart from the pronoun issue, other choices are incorrect because of tense issue. Since "they assumed" is a speculation in the past, we need "would". therefore I like B.

(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure .................. tense (was) problem.
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure.....correct
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it .................. tense (was) problem.
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria.................. tense (could) problem and awkward.
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it.............................. pronoun problem and also changes the meaning of the sentence.

I guess this one is nice question.
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 19 May 2010, 03:12
Can anybody explain in more details what is wrong with meaning of E
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 07:29
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59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it


i see one more split here: the use of the word "insecure"

the use of this word in C and E option, they does not mean the same so one can easily reject the options

Now we are left with A,B and D : Again the D the use of the word is awkward, so we reject D

Between A and B, i choose B as A is wordy
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2011, 22:02
Please explain clearly whats wrong in D???is it passive?
also pls. explain when to use "it" and when to use "that"?
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 27 Jul 2011, 02:33
'B' seems to be more appropriate as , 'would' should be appropriate than 'was'
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2011, 08:13
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59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it


Hi Friends,
I have problem in relating the pronouns such as "it" and "they" with actual nouns ( if there are multiple nouns and pronouns).
Anybody, please guide me a practical way out for pronoun reference w.r.t. subject/object etc.
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Re: 1000 SC -Strait of Gibraltar [#permalink] New post 08 Dec 2011, 03:05
seofah wrote:
bmw, thanks for bringing the question back!
OA is B

Lets see B:
Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Oranges agree with each other
Blues agree with each other

beckee, the above is slightly different to what you stated; you may wish to revisit or show that I am bullsh*tting :-D

For analysis of other choice, see below:
botirvoy wrote:

59. Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century because they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.
(A) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
wrong usage of contional sentence -"was" is wrongly used; change of meaning via "insecure"
(B) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure CORRECT -OA!
(C) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
wrong usage of contional sentence; "was not ever"?? -out!
(D) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
"that" is ambiguous; badly constructed
(E) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it
inverted; does not tally well with ununderlined section;wrong usage of contional sentence


pls, help.

you said that in A and C , "was" is wrong. Do you mean

the pattern : if X did somthing, Y would do something

is correct

and the pattern : if X did something, Y did something

is wrong

is that right? you mean that gmat grammar permits only the first pattern, not the second pattern.

pls, help.
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