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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 10:36
Hansborough will think twice before dunking with 14 seconds to go and his team up by more than 10. Ever heard of running the clock ? Even in the NBA , he would received a hard foul..let alone Duke/UNC.

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As Forde says in his article, it's easy for Duke & Coach K to take the high ground when they are winning, as they have in the past, but their true colors were revealed in this loss (and the one earlier this year where Hansborough was bloodied as well). In fact, the lasting images of this rivalry are Montrose being bloodied years ago, and then now Hansborough. Coach K had the gall to suggest that it was UNCs fault for having their key players in? And he was still calling timeouts and had his key players in - what a weasely hypocrite.

And the point is, there was no reason at all for a hard foul of any kind at that point in the game, no matter who is on the court. The fact that they wanted to foul Hansborough hard was nothing more than a cheap shot, because he had been outworking them all game.


I think Duke may have picked up a trick or two from the beating (physical) they took from St. John's.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 10:43
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Hansborough will think twice before dunking with 14 seconds to go and his team up by more than 10. Ever heard of running the clock? Even in the NBA , he would received a hard foul..let alone Duke/UNC.


I can't disagree there. All the more reason why I think the foul was intentional. However, I was quite surprised that he was playing so aggressively with the score/clock as such.

But to his defense, I think instinct kind of took over. When you're in the paint with the ball, it's second nature to attack the rim.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 10:43
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Duke = sucky basketball team and sore losers. Coach K = the whiner we all knew him for.


I gather you didn't apply to Fuqua?


I did apply to Fuqua. As Forde says in his article, it's easy for Duke & Coach K to take the high ground when they are winning, as they have in the past, but their true colors were revealed in this loss (and the one earlier this year where Hansborough was bloodied as well). In fact, the lasting images of this rivalry are Montrose being bloodied years ago, and then now Hansborough. Coach K had the gall to suggest that it was UNCs fault for having their key players in? And he was still calling timeouts and had his key players in - what a weasely hypocrite.

And the point is, there was no reason at all for a hard foul of any kind at that point in the game, no matter who is on the court. The fact that they wanted to foul Hansborough hard was nothing more than a cheap shot, because he had been outworking them all game.


I understand it was not justified on Coach K's part to call out UNC on having Hansbrough in that late in the game. But what was Roy Williams doing with Hansbrough in that late in the game when you are that far ahead. Horrible decision, but hey I would want to risk my star's presence in March just to beat Duke by a little more.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 10:47
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Hansborough will think twice before dunking with 14 seconds to go and his team up by more than 10. Ever heard of running the clock ? Even in the NBA , he would received a hard foul..let alone Duke/UNC.

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As Forde says in his article, it's easy for Duke & Coach K to take the high ground when they are winning, as they have in the past, but their true colors were revealed in this loss (and the one earlier this year where Hansborough was bloodied as well). In fact, the lasting images of this rivalry are Montrose being bloodied years ago, and then now Hansborough. Coach K had the gall to suggest that it was UNCs fault for having their key players in? And he was still calling timeouts and had his key players in - what a weasely hypocrite.

And the point is, there was no reason at all for a hard foul of any kind at that point in the game, no matter who is on the court. The fact that they wanted to foul Hansborough hard was nothing more than a cheap shot, because he had been outworking them all game.


I think Duke may have picked up a trick or two from the beating (physical) they took from St. John's.


It was off a missed free throw, and Duke was still fouling to extend the game and weren't letting them run out the clock. It's not like Hansborough drove in from 30 feet away with the intention of showing off. He picked up the ball near the hoop and put it up - that's what you do if the other team is continuing to foul. If Duke was admitting defeat, there was no reason anyone should have still been shooting foul shots - they could have started running out the clock 40-50 seconds earlier. But Duke was still calling timeouts and fouling.

BTW, ESPN.com is now reporting that Hansborough has a broken nose and a broken tooth from earlier in the game. Coach K finally realized his mistake and is admitting that there was no need for the hard foul. At least someone in his PR department was smart enough to tell him that he was coming across like a whiney (&^$(*&.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 10:50
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Duke = sucky basketball team and sore losers. Coach K = the whiner we all knew him for.


I gather you didn't apply to Fuqua?


I did apply to Fuqua. As Forde says in his article, it's easy for Duke & Coach K to take the high ground when they are winning, as they have in the past, but their true colors were revealed in this loss (and the one earlier this year where Hansborough was bloodied as well). In fact, the lasting images of this rivalry are Montrose being bloodied years ago, and then now Hansborough. Coach K had the gall to suggest that it was UNCs fault for having their key players in? And he was still calling timeouts and had his key players in - what a weasely hypocrite.

And the point is, there was no reason at all for a hard foul of any kind at that point in the game, no matter who is on the court. The fact that they wanted to foul Hansborough hard was nothing more than a cheap shot, because he had been outworking them all game.

I hate Duke as much as anyone and I'm happy to see them lose and become a second tier team vs. UNC. But during ACC play Hansbrough has pretty well established himself as one of the dirtiest players in the league who liberally uses his elbows and unnecessarily throws his massive body into lose ball situations. He's a very skilled player but not a great athlete and he tries to make up for that by being overly physical (something he wouldn't get away with if he wasn't wearing baby blue). Add his frequent and obnoxious stare-downs and you get a truly hateable player.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 10:53
Broken nose and tooth from earlier in the game ? Then, what the f*** was he doing there anyway ? Duke was fouling UNC since they had their starters in play. What about some class from UNC ? I guess their pathetic record in the last decade against Duke made them want a double digit win badly.

If you take out Psycho T's bloody face which made the foul look worse than any other hard foul, Henerson wouldn't even have been suspended.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 11:00
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Broken nose and tooth from earlier in the game ? Then, what the f*** was he doing there anyway ? Duke was fouling UNC since they had their starters in play. What about some class from UNC ? I guess their pathetic record in the last decade against Duke made them want a double digit win badly.

If you take out Psycho T's bloody face which made the foul look worse than any other hard foul, Henerson wouldn't even have been suspended.


BTW, since we are quoting articles here is one on Psycho T
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6530562
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 11:16
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I hate Duke as much as anyone and I'm happy to see them lose and become a second tier team vs. UNC. But during ACC play Hansbrough has pretty well established himself as one of the dirtiest players in the league who liberally uses his elbows and unnecessarily throws his massive body into lose ball situations. He's a very skilled player but not a great athlete and he tries to make up for that by being overly physical (something he wouldn't get away with if he wasn't wearing baby blue). Add his frequent and obnoxious stare-downs and you get a truly hateable player.


Again, i've never heard of Hansbrough being classified as a thug or dirty player, and I have followed him since his high school days in Sikeston. He plays with intensity and passion, but there is nothing dirty about his game. It's almost like you are trying to excuse what happened to him by claiming he had it coming, which is clearly off base.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 11:18
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Again, i've never heard of Hansbrough being classified as a thug or dirty player, and I have followed him since his high school days in Sikeston. He plays with intensity and passion, but there is nothing dirty about his game. It's almost like you are trying to excuse what happened to him by claiming he had it coming, which is clearly off base.


I am not saying this the case here, but: Some people confuse hustle with dirty play.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 11:35
Hansbrough only knows one way to play - all out. It doesn't matter if the game is on the line or if it is garbage time. And how is he trying to dunk? He got the rebound after his miss and put it back up. All instinctive.

Duke was calling timeouts (as pointed out by another poster) AND still had their starters in. Plus there wasn't exactly a situation to make substitutions. How anyone can spin this to say Hansbrough/UNC deserved this is beyond me.


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Hansborough will think twice before dunking with 14 seconds to go and his team up by more than 10. Ever heard of running the clock ? Even in the NBA , he would received a hard foul..let alone Duke/UNC.

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As Forde says in his article, it's easy for Duke & Coach K to take the high ground when they are winning, as they have in the past, but their true colors were revealed in this loss (and the one earlier this year where Hansborough was bloodied as well). In fact, the lasting images of this rivalry are Montrose being bloodied years ago, and then now Hansborough. Coach K had the gall to suggest that it was UNCs fault for having their key players in? And he was still calling timeouts and had his key players in - what a weasely hypocrite.

And the point is, there was no reason at all for a hard foul of any kind at that point in the game, no matter who is on the court. The fact that they wanted to foul Hansborough hard was nothing more than a cheap shot, because he had been outworking them all game.


I think Duke may have picked up a trick or two from the beating (physical) they took from St. John's.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 11:39
I would never say deserved, but basketball is a physical game. We can't all wring our white-gloved hands every time an elbow goes flying. I would say both men were playing hard -- in spite of the score and dwindling clock -- and that when you're going for it under the basket, you can expect some contact.

Only Henderson can tell us if he was trying to sucker-punch Hansborough...and he might not be able to tell us either. Crime of passion?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 11:40
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Again, i've never heard of Hansbrough being classified as a thug or dirty player, and I have followed him since his high school days in Sikeston. He plays with intensity and passion, but there is nothing dirty about his game. It's almost like you are trying to excuse what happened to him by claiming he had it coming, which is clearly off base.


I am not saying this the case here, but: Some people confuse hustle with dirty play.


That's exactly right kidderek. He outworked Duke in this game, just like he tries to do in every game, but honestly this is the first time I have heard of Hansborough called a dirty player. I don't buy it, he takes more hard fouls than anyone. He's been bloodied twice this year by Duke, took countless elbows to the face the the GT game, been the subject of numerous flagrant fouls this year - almost certainly more than any other player in the nation. I bet no other player has been the subject of more than 2 flagrant fouls all year, he's been the target at least a half dozen times. He works harder than everyone else on the court, and they retaliate by trying to hurt him. I can't recall him hurting anyone ever in his career, despite how hard he plays.

At least he didn't sit on the bench crying like McRoberts in the first game. :lol: :lol: :lol: I know where he learned that from. In Hurley's first game against UNC, he was bawling on the bench.
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Poor little Hansborough is so nice and cute...everyone wants to pull his cheeks. Sweet little baby...you have a bunch of groupies.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 12:28
Hmm, kinda OT, but how about we start a GMATClub March Madness tournament this year? I can organize it if there is enough interest...
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 12:38
I am in for the tourney.

And Carolina who.........................GO BUCKS!
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 12:40
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Hmm, kinda OT, but how about we start a GMATClub March Madness tournament this year? I can organize it if there is enough interest...


I'm in GO TERPS....can someone start a thread for it? How bout we wager admits?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 12:41
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I am in for the tourney.

And Carolina who.........................GO BUCKS!


bucks got their butts handed to them by the gators, football and basketball

hahaha, i am a buckeye fan though.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 12:48
Oh, oh, oh, waaaaahhh. :lol: lol: lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NElaIEymBb4

Should be a good tournament this year. Lots of movement at the top and a lot of teams that could make some noise.
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Hmm, kinda OT, but how about we start a GMATClub March Madness tournament this year? I can organize it if there is enough interest...


I'm in GO TERPS....can someone start a thread for it? How bout we wager admits?


http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 461#300461

I share your TERPS sentiment!

FEAR. THE. TURTLE.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2007, 13:16
Go badgers!

It's totally our year....(that little OSU game last week was a blip)
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