tml2004 wrote:
maxmoju: sorry for delayed response.
1. Admission cycle is already open, apply as soon as you can. It took me a month and a half to get a response.
2. Dont know the percentage but a lot of people get scholarships here. Most of them are small but if you are an exceptional candidate you will get a big one dont worry.
3. Im a domestic student so I dont know what international fees are like. The whole year tuition for me was around $28000 so next year I expect the same.
I feel like I have to comment on ozzyk's remarks.
xenophobia that he/she is talking about exists everywhere. It is far more pronounced in the U.S. actually.
Secondly, making a comment that U.S. B-schools are better is incorrect. Is Sykes MBA from University of Tampa is really better than Schulich? When you start listing Harvard's and Yale's; these are very few elite list of schools, among which there are international players as well such as INSEAD and LBS. Are you actually going to get a better education from there? In my opinion no, I have never been to those schools but I know that Schulich faculty is really impressive and the standard is really high. However, because selection process is so intense in those institutions, just making there, tells a lot about yorself. In other words, its more about status than education.
To make one quick pointer, yes they do know Schulich at the Wall Street and ill leave that at that. More than that, Bay street is full of Canadian MBA grads.
Also, ozzyk's interpertation of international seems to equal U.S.. In the U.S. they tend to discount everyone degree's because they like to protect their market. Globally however, in places like Eastern Europe and South America, Canadian education in general, is kept in a very high regard.
What no one seems to realize is that faculty of managment at York University is only 30 years old. In that time frame, they were able to build a program that is todays top 50 worldwide programs for sure. The school is still in development. However, there is Schulich culture and graduating from the school does mean something. The school has a clear idea what it is trying to achieve. I welcome anyone who reads this to take a look at my school. I think we have something special going on. If you believe in our mission, then this is definately a place for you. School employs many of its graduates in various roles, which speaks valumes of the trust the school has in its graduates.
First of all, my intention is not to sound stand offish - writing over the internet can do that. So let me add a HUGE disclaimer that all statements below are opinion and said in positive context - I only disagree respectfully.
Okay. So I'm talking top 20 US and European programs. If we're going to talk about the premier Canadian programs, lets compare them to their international equivalents not some backwater university in Tampa.
I'm sorry but having travelled the world, worked in different places and as an immigrant myself, I'm convinced that the Canadian market is more xenophobic. In the US you will still get recruited by Mckinsey post MBA despite having an accent. Here recruiters from local firms will laugh you out the door for talking different and being a 'freshie' despite having gone to Rotman. I know an Indian Rotman grad with a 750+ GMAT that will throw himself over train tracks to stop another international student from making that same mistake he did.
Just look at hiring by the premier consulting firms from Canadian MBA programs. I'm sorry but I would not pay almost six figures for my MBA to go work for Deloitte. I dont care what you say, but Canadian schools do not have the global profile to compete with the likes of INSEAD or the US top 20. Sure if you're making 40K right now, go to Shulich. But if you're in the 75k+ range, my advice is go somewhere where you have a chance to get recruited by a premier firm.
Also the cost of education is not hugely different from Shulich to INSEAD, you dont just pay for the course work.. you also pay to be surrounded by people with brilliant profiles rather than fund accountants and risk analysts from bay street.
I get it, you go to York and want to defend that school - but for me the ROI was incredibly poor for that school. I'm sure you have your opinion and I have mine - my recommendation to any international student is to think long and hard about what they want out of their MBA and then decide where to go. Make sure the ROI is worth it, make sure your choice matches your profile.