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pierrealexandre77 wrote:
I'm confused as I don't understand the meaning of this sentence

for nations, like individuals
=> what does it mean ? for nations, as it is for individuals?

the constructions seems awkward
could anyone explain ?

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the second part of the sentence is giving the reason for crises. 'for nations' -> 'because nations'.
All options except A has error(s).
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229. Crises in international diplomacy do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find themselves locked into difficult positions, unable to back down.


The semi colon separates two individual but related sentences.
The purpose of the second sentence is to add more information to what the first sentence is explaining.

The second sentence basically says "Nations can find themselves lock into difficult positions".
From my understanding this is how I brokedown the second sentence:
"For" - basically means Because. Semicolons are often followed by words such as 'however', 'therefore' and 'for'.
"Nations" - Main subject
"like individuals" - is basically drawing a comparison from one noun to another. It is comparing that Nations are similar to individuals in how they can find themselves lock into difficult positions.
"Locked into difficult positions" - is what the subject is doing so its the verb component.
"unable to back down" - I think this is a modifier for difficult positions but am not completely sure on this one.

Hope this helps
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229. Crises in international diplomacy do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find themselves locked into difficult positions, unable to back down.
(A) do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find
(B) do not always results from malice; nations, just as individuals, finding
(C) do not always results from malice; nations, such as individuals, can find
(D) aren’t always the results of malice; nations in the same way that individuals can find
(E) aren’t resulting always from malice; just like individuals who can find



B-- do not always results is wrong . it should be result
C-- same as B. such as is wrong. it should be like.
D-- wordy and awkward
E-- aren't resulting is wrong. we don't need any continuous tense

A uses do not always result and like
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Hello Guys,


I get the question in the last practice test of Kaplan Verbal and weren't convinced by their answer. Could you guy help me??
Crises in international diplomacy do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find themselves locked into difficult positions, unable to back down.

A] do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find
B] does not always result from malice; nations, just as individuals, finding
C] do not always result of malice; nations, such as individuals, can find
D] aren't always the results of malice; nations in the same way that individuals can find
E] aren't resulting always from malice; just like nations and individuals who can find

I believe 'For' is not used in independent clause...Please help :roll:

Originally posted by dreambig1990 on 27 Oct 2013, 14:36.
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Hello Guys,
I get the question in the last practice test of Kaplan Verbal and weren't convinced by their answer. Could you guy help me??
Crises in international diplomacy do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find themselves locked into difficult positions, unable to back down.
A,
B, does not always result from malice; nations, just as individuals, finding
C, do not always result of malice; nations, such as individuals, can find
D, aren't always the results of malice; nations in the same way that individuals can find
E, aren't resulting always from malice; just like nations and individuals who can find

The correct ans is A tho I believe For is not used in independent clause...Please help :roll:


Hi dreambig1990,Two things :[1] PLS. search before you post the question on the forum to avoid duplication; this particular question has been discussed 6 times! on Gmatclub alone. [2] Always the title of your post should be first few words of your question

Now coming to your question on the OA ambiguity :
B, does not always result from malice; nations, just as individuals, finding-Crises is the plural of crisis it needs a plural verb and finding is a modifier, thus the sentence lacks a main verb
C, do not always result of malice; nations, such as individuals, can find-such as implies for example,this makes the sentence
nonsensical
D, aren't always the results of malice; nations in the same way that individuals can find--'results' is incorrect it should have been 'result of malice' and use of that is incorrect too
E, aren't resulting always from malice; just like nations and individuals who can find--no main verb in the first sentence

A is the best pick or the least horrible out of the other four.
But A is wrong to use a coordinating conjunction (for) after the semicolon.Semicolon should join two complete sentences or independent clauses.
So A is also incorrect.
BTW this question is from 1000 series (as indicated by prev. posters in the forum) and 1000 SC ia a very unreliable source for practice.
Do not waste your time over it.
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A. ‘For’ is used in the sense of because or since as a subordinate conjunction. Therefore, it can follow the semi-colon. One can authentic info about the usage of ‘for’ in this link < https://www.thefreedictionary.com/for. The best among the lot.
B; SV error
C; Individuals are not examples of nations
D: the part after the semi-colon is a fragment.
E. The subordinate clause is a fragment

P.S: This topic is from the infamous 1000 series and not from Kaplan.
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Crises in international diplomacy do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find themselves locked into difficult positions, unable to back down.


A] do not always result from malice; for nations, like individuals, can find

B] does not always result from malice; nations, just as individuals, finding - no verb
C] do not always result of malice; nations, such as individuals, can find - result OF - no. nations such as individuals nononono!!!
D] aren't always the results of malice; nations in the same way that individuals can find - result OF no! no verb for nations.
E] aren't resulting always from malice; just like nations and individuals who can find - just like X and Y - but where is the verb?

A is the best..though I do not agree with the construction.
we have a semicolon, so we can not use the conjunction for and still be correct.
for=because.
because is a word that introduces a subordinate clause..so clearly semicolon + for is not right...but it is the best from the given...
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This is a good question. To crack this one needs to follow the following two rules::
1: FANBOYS -- Two independent clauses can be either connected by - For, And, Nor, But, Or, Yet, So- or connected by FANBOYS with a semicolon.
2: LIKE-- is used to compare nouns which are not exactly the same. While “Just as”, "such as" and “just like” are used to cite examples that are exactly the same.
Here "nations" are not exactly the same as 'individuals' hence "Like" shall be preferred here.
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