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610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 30 Mar 2009, 13:03
I just came back from the center. I screwed up royally in verbal. I am a very nervous test taker and during the exam I thought I did bad in math. I decided to make sure that I got the first 10 questions right in verbal. I turned off the clock. I took too much time on SC and spent a lot of time on the first RC. When I finished question 22, I clicked on the clock again and saw only 10 minutes left, "WHAT". I ended up not reading the last two RC passages and tried to answer questions by just reading questions. I also also could not read two critical reasoning passages. Probably, this is my worst effort ever. I took many timed practice tests 6 MGMAT, 4 PR, 4 Kaplan, 2GMAT Prep (each 8 times). I always completed by verbal and never had a situation this bad. I only struggled to complete verbal on my first GMAT prep attempt, but nothing like this. I have to point out though that I got exactly the same score on my first GMAT prep attempt.

My target is 650-680 and I want to retake. Can you please advise what is the recommended minimum amount of time I should retake? Is 30 days enough? I think I need to improve my speed on RC. Any tips will be much appreciated. Also, I come from a non English speaking country. I never had a good reading habit which might be the biggest reason why I struggle with speed reading in RC.

I studied for 5 months. I used Kaplan, PR, OA guide, OA quant and verbal books, MGMAT sentence correction, CR Bible and Barron's.
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 10:53
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I just came back from the center. I screwed up royally in verbal. I am a very nervous test taker and during the exam I thought I did bad in math. I decided to make sure that I got the first 10 questions right in verbal. I turned off the clock. I took too much time on SC and spent a lot of time on the first RC. When I finished question 22, I clicked on the clock again and saw only 10 minutes left, "WHAT". I ended up not reading the last two RC passages and tried to answer questions by just reading questions. I also also could not read two critical reasoning passages. Probably, this is my worst effort ever. I took many timed practice tests 6 MGMAT, 4 PR, 4 Kaplan, 2GMAT Prep (each 8 times). I always completed by verbal and never had a situation this bad. I only struggled to complete verbal on my first GMAT prep attempt, but nothing like this. I have to point out though that I got exactly the same score on my first GMAT prep attempt.

My target is 650-680 and I want to retake. Can you please advise what is the recommended minimum amount of time I should retake? Is 30 days enough? I think I need to improve my speed on RC. Any tips will be much appreciated. Also, I come from a non English speaking country. I never had a good reading habit which might be the biggest reason why I struggle with speed reading in RC.

I studied for 5 months. I used Kaplan, PR, OA guide, OA quant and verbal books, MGMAT sentence correction, CR Bible and Barron's.



This must be frustrating to get the same score as on the first practice test.

Have you seen this post? books-to-read-improve-verbal-score-and-enjoy-a-good-read-76079.html

I am a strong believer in reading - never was a big reader myself, but the GMAT prep turned me into a book fan - there are so many good ones; definitely recommend you visit one of your local stores and pick something up - reading and immersing yourself into a "proper" english environment is key. The best part is that if you pick up a good book, it wont' even feel like you are studying! That will get your mind off gmat too and will have less tendency to drive you crazy. Reading helps with RC's but also with SC's since your ear will be getting trained now in proper sentence structure and vocab.

In terms of books, I am not sure what else to recommend. You seemed to have covered most of them - take a look here - best-gmat-prep-books-recommendations-74310.html maybe something will jump out.

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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 11:45
I totally agree that I need to improve my reading habits to improve reading comprehension. However, this will take more than a month. I want to take this test no later again no later than 60 days. Is it not advisable to attempt it in the next 60 days?

Since I took each GMAT prep eight times, I was scoring consistenly between 730 and 770 after the first four attempts. Obviously, you cannot rely on this score because you have seen most of the questions. This is specially true for verbal where I struggled the most. But I was hoping to reach the target of minimum 650.

Now that my confidence is shattered, I am not sure if I can reach 650 within the next 60 days. Is there anybody who has done this? Can you let me know what other books to use and what other CATS to take? The books I have not gone through for verbal are Kaplan verbal and MGMAT reading comprehension. Should I get these? Sorry if am bothering anybody by asking too many questions.
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 13:39
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I totally agree that I need to improve my reading habits to improve reading comprehension. However, this will take more than a month. I want to take this test no later again no later than 60 days. Is it not advisable to attempt it in the next 60 days?

Since I took each GMAT prep eight times, I was scoring consistenly between 730 and 770 after the first four attempts. Obviously, you cannot rely on this score because you have seen most of the questions. This is specially true for verbal where I struggled the most. But I was hoping to reach the target of minimum 650.

Now that my confidence is shattered, I am not sure if I can reach 650 within the next 60 days. Is there anybody who has done this? Can you let me know what other books to use and what other CATS to take? The books I have not gone through for verbal are Kaplan verbal and MGMAT reading comprehension. Should I get these? Sorry if am bothering anybody by asking too many questions.


Sorry to hear about your score. I think the minimum times allowed to retake the GMAT again is in 31 days. I think if you try to improve your quant more, you will hit 650. Quant will be relatively easier to improve than verbal. My previous GMAT was 660 with Q50 and V28. However, since I am trying to break 700, so I definitely have to improve verbal.
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 14:05
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I totally agree that I need to improve my reading habits to improve reading comprehension. However, this will take more than a month. I want to take this test no later again no later than 60 days. Is it not advisable to attempt it in the next 60 days?

Since I took each GMAT prep eight times, I was scoring consistenly between 730 and 770 after the first four attempts. Obviously, you cannot rely on this score because you have seen most of the questions. This is specially true for verbal where I struggled the most. But I was hoping to reach the target of minimum 650.

Now that my confidence is shattered, I am not sure if I can reach 650 within the next 60 days. Is there anybody who has done this? Can you let me know what other books to use and what other CATS to take? The books I have not gone through for verbal are Kaplan verbal and MGMAT reading comprehension. Should I get these? Sorry if am bothering anybody by asking too many questions.


Sorry to hear about your score. I think the minimum times allowed to retake the GMAT again is in 31 days. I think if you try to improve your quant more, you will hit 650. Quant will be relatively easier to improve than verbal. My previous GMAT was 660 with Q50 and V28. However, since I am trying to break 700, so I definitely have to improve verbal.



I agree with Eileen.

It does sound from stories on this site that 700 is an easy target but it is not - it takes hours and days and months of directed effort on all levels. (I am not saying you have not done it). And for some people it takes twice as much to get that done. There is definitely hope - I have gone from 540 to 750 in 3 months, so don't see a reason you could go from 610 to 680 in one.

My only argument is to reason logically - You have gone through all of the Kaplan and MGMAT material - unless you feel you missed a part of it and need to review again, there are no hidden strategies left. If your verbal is weak - you have to improve it and the best way I found so far is reading. If you read a page a day, then yes - you will need years, but I don't see any reason one could not read through 1K pages in a month, which is a good starting point. You have to invest time and approach it on all fronts - work with error logs, analyze your mistakes, and yes - read.

That's my advice for verbal. You can keep trying to come up with a strategy to cut corners, but ultimately to get the score you need, you need to get the verbal up and to do that, you have to be able to read efficiently.
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2009, 14:12
according to ur post, u have the strength to score around ur target 680. u have to manage to stay calm next time, thats a big portion of ur test score. practice speed in verbal and u should be fine next time

btw i went from 540 to 690 in 45 days


however, dont know why i scored 540 the first time, ihad an impression i did great so the score was pretty shocking. so its not really that i improved a lot, i guess just had a bad day or whatever
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2009, 03:34
Thanks BB, Eileen and Spiridon.

I think I agree with BB. It is obvious that I will continue to struggle with verbal unless I make some fundamental changes. I have picked up "The Fountain Head" by Ayn Rand. I will not take the next GMAT until I finish at least 10 books.

I thought that 650 hours of study would be enough for GMAT. But I forgot that most people who score good in verbal have better foundations in English grammar and reading comprehension. GMAT was my first test with reading comprehension and critical reasoning questions. So obviously I have to make up for the lost opportunities of SATs, APs etc and bad reading habits.
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2009, 12:54
Read the Economist..as you read the articles, make mental notes about content, tone, etc....IMO this is the best available source for complex, dense info, passages to the average person...

Editorials from WSJ, FT, NYT, etc...are also great practice since they are about the size of GMAT RC passage
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2009, 08:30
Thanks spgny. I have been reading "Business Weekly" and "Time" magazine regularly. I don't have a problem with any articles in financial magazines as I am in Finance. But when I read RC from GMAT, GRE, LSAT etc. on unfamiliar subjects like science, history, literature etc. I find it very hard to absorb and understand. My mind just wanders off. This is the main the reason I get main idea/point questions wrong. I am using RC on this website and GRE books in addition to reading more. Hopefully, it will help me.

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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2009, 16:07
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Thanks BB, Eileen and Spiridon.

I think I agree with BB. It is obvious that I will continue to struggle with verbal unless I make some fundamental changes. I have picked up "The Fountain Head" by Ayn Rand. I will not take the next GMAT until I finish at least 10 books.

I thought that 650 hours of study would be enough for GMAT. But I forgot that most people who score good in verbal have better foundations in English grammar and reading comprehension. GMAT was my first test with reading comprehension and critical reasoning questions. So obviously I have to make up for the lost opportunities of SATs, APs etc and bad reading habits.



:) That's quit a book for starters but a great price per page. I hope you enjoy it - many people do.
If you find that you are getting burnt out, switch to Steinbeck books - they are expensive but fun and entertaining (to me at least)

P.S. verbal will catch up with you sooner or later (e.g. business school reading, professional memo writing, etc) better have it handled early and right than limp all the way.
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Re: 610 (Q 46 V28) I blew it in verbal- out of time [#permalink] New post 08 Apr 2009, 10:58
Accountant wrote:
Thanks spgny. I have been reading "Business Weekly" and "Time" magazine regularly. I don't have a problem with any articles in financial magazines as I am in Finance. But when I read RC from GMAT, GRE, LSAT etc. on unfamiliar subjects like science, history, literature etc. I find it very hard to absorb and understand. My mind just wanders off. This is the main the reason I get main idea/point questions wrong. I am using RC on this website and GRE books in addition to reading more. Hopefully, it will help me.

Many thanks for support from all of you.


I hear you, I am in Finance also, with a CFA charter, so I am used to reading research reports etc..
However, the Economist has science, literature, sections that resemble RC in complex concepts, etc...Even though they usually do not interest me, I read them for GMAT practice.
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