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700 plus or bust! [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2013, 22:08
I am going start my logging my study and experience here to show the evolution of my progress and thinking as I go. The end Goal is 700 plus. If any mods think this thread is in the wrong spot, feel free to move it.


A quick bit about me. 29/M/Australia - 5+ years exp in Sales/Product Management, currently Bus Dev for large-cap chemical company - I specialise in Mining and Unconventional Gas. Economics undergrad - GPA a flat 3, from a reasonable, but not prestigious Australian university.

Target school Insead - I like their program, and feel I fit culturally with the alumni I have met from the school. I am hoping to get in on basis of my career achievements, international experience and some interesting life stories I have to tell (I rode a motorbike through 40 different countries, trained in MA in China etc.). Obviously I have to make up for the low GPA and thus targeting 700 plus. Alternatively I will take an MBA in the US at a school that is close to the HQ of the company I work for.

I have not put an exact time frame yet on when I will sit the GMAT. Suffice to say some time around late April. Giving me about 16 weeks to study.

I bought the MGMAT self guided program at the start of November and needed to do a math refresher. I went through the Foundations of Math book and have been working on my areas of weakness. Work has been extremely busy up to the Christmas period and I find that with most things in life I need to approach them slowly and build up to a sustainable level of motivation. Now that I am at that point I am going to go hard for the next 3-4 months.


Today I sat the MGMAT Cat for the first time (as recommended by many) and scored a 580 (Q32, V37). Verbal is obviously an area of strength and does not need a significant amount of time. Quant on the other hand requires my focus. I really fell down on DS having really only encountered this type of Q for the first time today (DS was at 30% whilst PS was at 50%). Also need to address Geometry which was lagging at 20%. I feel with a better strategy there my result will come up but it really needs some time. In addition I ran out of time, finishing at question 33.


Going to make a cup of tea now and put together a full study plan for the next 12-16 weeks.
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Re: 700 plus or bust! [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2013, 07:05
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I am going start my logging my study and experience here to show the evolution of my progress and thinking as I go. The end Goal is 700 plus. If any mods think this thread is in the wrong spot, feel free to move it.


A quick bit about me. 29/M/Australia - 5+ years exp in Sales/Product Management, currently Bus Dev for large-cap chemical company - I specialise in Mining and Unconventional Gas. Economics undergrad - GPA a flat 3, from a reasonable, but not prestigious Australian university.

Target school Insead - I like their program, and feel I fit culturally with the alumni I have met from the school. I am hoping to get in on basis of my career achievements, international experience and some interesting life stories I have to tell (I rode a motorbike through 40 different countries, trained in MA in China etc.). Obviously I have to make up for the low GPA and thus targeting 700 plus. Alternatively I will take an MBA in the US at a school that is close to the HQ of the company I work for.

I have not put an exact time frame yet on when I will sit the GMAT. Suffice to say some time around late April. Giving me about 16 weeks to study.

I bought the MGMAT self guided program at the start of November and needed to do a math refresher. I went through the Foundations of Math book and have been working on my areas of weakness. Work has been extremely busy up to the Christmas period and I find that with most things in life I need to approach them slowly and build up to a sustainable level of motivation. Now that I am at that point I am going to go hard for the next 3-4 months.


Today I sat the MGMAT Cat for the first time (as recommended by many) and scored a 580 (Q32, V37). Verbal is obviously an area of strength and does not need a significant amount of time. Quant on the other hand requires my focus. I really fell down on DS having really only encountered this type of Q for the first time today (DS was at 30% whilst PS was at 50%). Also need to address Geometry which was lagging at 20%. I feel with a better strategy there my result will come up but it really needs some time. In addition I ran out of time, finishing at question 33.


Going to make a cup of tea now and put together a full study plan for the next 12-16 weeks.


1. Not finishing a section in the stipulated 75 mins has a severe penalty. If you had just spent the last 30 secs to randomly pick an answer for each of the 4 questions that you missed, your score would have been more than 33 in Quant. This is a fact. You get more points that you would if you finish a section by answering the last few questions wrong than if you fail to complete the section.

2. MGMAT Quant questions are generally on the tougher side. So don't feel down that you've scored less. And DS can be improved with practice. I'd also suggest that you download the pdfs that our resident Quant expert 'Bunuel' posted here on the forums because his collection of questions is more representative of the kind of questions that appear on the GMAT than MGMAT's are. I went up from 49(83%) to 51(97%) solely because of that. You can definitely see an improvement of 25% to 30% if you pick the right resources to practice from.

3. Good luck. PM me if you need anything else related to Quant.
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580 to 640 in 7 weeks (91.5 hours) [#permalink] New post 15 Feb 2014, 00:32
So I have been studying hard'ish for the past 7 weeks.

I have done an average of 13.07 hours study per week, adding up to a total of 91.5. Increase of score of 60 points is in line with about 1.5 hours per point increase, based on that I have to do another 90 hours to get to 700. However, planning another 100 just to make sure.

My second CAT was Q37(44%) V39(88%), an increase of 5 on Q and 2 on V. At this stage I am in the 7th week of the Manhattan Gmat course. I am satisfied with that increase in score as I had read elsewhere that some students had seen no increase from their 1st to 2nd cat on the MGMAT course - psychologically I prepared for no increase.

On the test this time, I was more familiar with the types of questions, particularly in quant, yet I could not remember the MGMAT strategies for answering them.

A plus 700 seems less far away than what it did previously and I feel encouraged to push harder.

About another 9 weeks before I plan on sitting the test. I'd say given my verbal, once I complete the MGMAT in two weeks I will most likely split my Q/V study time 3:1, as that is obviously the area that needs the highest level of focus, and I am only a few % points shy of 90% barrier on verbal.
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Re: 700 plus or bust! [#permalink] New post 15 Feb 2014, 20:32
A bit of analysis with some data from yesterday to identify my weak areas and what needs focus.

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Time studied over the past 7 weeks. Earlier in January before work got busy I had a lot more time. Since then my study has become more sporadic. I really want to get my average hours back up to 13+ over the next few weeks.

QUANT

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You can see that my quant is really all over the place. There are no real areas to work on, however I am still making silly mistakes in questions, I went too slow in my first cat and so sped through this second cat. As a consequence I got questions wrong because I missed details in the question stem.

Still there are some real areas where I need to pick up my game; Exponents and Roots, Word Problems - I find translating blocks of text into algebra a slow process, fraught with mistakes. Additionally I am yet to master 'thinking outside the box' to manipulate equations. Actually linear equations are not a strength for me.

VERBAL

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My average question right on difficulty in SC is 720. I got 86% of the SC questions correct. I am only half way through the SC theory though in the MGMAT guides, and so a fair bit of this is 'going by ear', but I have improved significantly over my first CAT in this area, so the theory is paying off.

My real area here to improve is in RC, specifically inferences. As you can see above I only got 1 of 5 inference questions correct. This contrasts with the previous CAT where I got all 5 inference questions correct. The difference, this time ALL of my inference Q's were in the 700-800 difficulty range, compared to the first cat where I only got 1. If I can scrub up my inferences and a bit of the critical reasoning, then I think I have a real crack at 41 or 42 on the verbal. Though someone on a forum did say that MGMAT Verbal section tends to be easier than the real test.

Either way I still need >80% on the Quant to satisfy adcoms that I can make up for my poor quant performance in undergrad. If I get Q47 V39, I should crack the 700 barrier. A Q47 V41 would get me around the 720 range.

Sound like I've got summit fever... enough analysis for now, back to the study.
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3rd CAT - Gone backwards [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2014, 18:44
After seeing the gain from my first to second CAT from 580 up to 640 I was really happy that the effort I had put into studying had directly translated through to results. Over the past 3 weeks I have put in about 55 hours of study, which I hoped would translate into another 20-30 point gain to around 660-670.

So this time around when I only got 600, understandably I was pretty gutted.

I sat down to do my third practice CAT yesterday, in my living room, as my girlfriend was out for the afternoon. She came home early however, half way through Quant, making a lot of noise, and it really threw me out and put me in a bad mood. I got stuck on quite a few questions, spending too much time on them, and was on question 31 at the 70 minute mark. I rushed through at the end, guessing many questions. Lesson learnt, next time I will go into my office in the city where there will be no chance of interruptions.

Having said that, when I sat down to pick the bones on my poor result this morning I noticed a few things that show progress sine the last CAT.

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You can see that the average question difficulty correct has come up from 510 to 610 on PS, and from 590 to 640 on DS. Additionally the number of questions in the 600-700 and 700-800 difficulty range was much higher this time around. Possibly explaining the timing issues that I had. Either way, I am at least happy that these numbers are progressing, even if the overall score dropped.

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When I got to the Verbal part, the poor performance on timing in the quant was getting to my head. It isn't shown in the numbers but I got to about the 30th Question hovering at the 99th% level from questions 10-30. It was about the 30th Question that i realised I was about 2-3 minutes behind on time. I panicked a bit and tried to increase my pace. Subsequently I answered a few questions incorrectly in the <1 minute time and got them incorrect. Only to be left with 5 minutes to spare at the end of the exam. One other thing I noticed is that I am quite fatigued by the last 10-15 questions on the verbal and it becomes harder to parse the sentences. Particularly when I get those scientific RC passages at the 700-800 level.

I did however, get much better at the RC inference questions, answering 4/5 correct compared to 1/5 last time. MGMAT CATs seem to favour inference q's at the higher level. Also, still having issues with CR - really need to nail down on that topic area.

Additionally, I had not studied much Verbal in the past 3 weeks as I felt Quant needed more focus. For this reason I felt I was rusty on the CR questions.

Overall I think the performance in this third CAT reflects poor timing and strategic decisions. I have a few quant areas with some gaps, that need serious focus. There are areas that I have covered before but just cannot remember the theory fast enough to answer the question in a reasonable time - such 3 overlapping sets. I think flash cards could really help with this.

I really need to push my quant up to >70% to get in the safe zone for my target schools and prove that I have that level. My natural skills on verbal could be honed to deliver me a Verbal result in the region of 42-44. So a Q of 44-47, and a V of 42-44, should get me in the 720-730 region. I'd really like to hit Q47, V44 - I think the Quant target is going to be the harder one.
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Re: 700 plus or bust! [#permalink] New post 29 Mar 2014, 00:13
Q:41 V:36 - 640

My analysis at the moment is that I have some gaps still in certain knowledge areas and this is holding me back from getting to the higher scores.

Not going to sit another CAT for at least 3 weeks. Very glad that I cracked the 40 mark on the quant. My lack of focus on verbal is showing in the results. I scored 39 on my second cat, giving me the idea that I would be able to easily score 41-42 after addressing a couple of areas. However, it is proving to not be that easier.

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You can see from above that I am getting a much higher number of 700-800 level questions, showing higher accuracy at lower levels than in the past.

Further analysis below shows that I am just as accurate at the 700-800 level, as at the 600-700 level indicating that there are gaps in my ability that are bringing me down. I have listed those areas to review over the coming weeks.

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Below you can see that my SC is poor. In the test where I got V39 I got 12/14 700-800 level SC questions correct. I think this is dragging me down and giving me less 700-800 questions to answer in other areas - resulting in a lower overall score. It seems in verbal, that the difference between 80th percentile verbal and 90th percentile verbal, is significant. I will get stuck back into studying verbal over the next 3 weeks.

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In 3 weeks I will sit another practice GMAT. I have 5 weeks until I have to sit the GMAT. If I can get my verbal performance back up, add a few points to the Quant I think I might be able to crack the 700 barrier. The next 4 weeks will be a very hard push. I have the easter break that I will be able to put a fair bit of time into. I leave for a holiday to Japan/Singapore on the 8th of May, and in order to crack this point I really need to get that verbal up.
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Re: 700 plus or bust! [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2014, 02:23
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great thread! The data might be really helpful for other students...
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