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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 02 Sep 2011, 08:37
mayansd wrote:
bonkers13 wrote:
Good job buddy.. Inspiring.

thanks bonkers and yogesh.

gmatpapa wrote:
Congrats. You prove that who dares wins. I juggle everyday with the thoughts of retaking the GMAT even after having a 710 and posts like these certainly do help bring in motivation. Any tips for me, as to how to raise Quant from 48 to 50 and verbal from 40 to 44? (let me add that I have studied almost all GMAT books, took all tests and done all GMAT club tests),


hey gmatpapa,

thanks for your wishes. i went through your gmat journey, which is inspiring. You and I have the same choice for books, powerscore CR for CR and manhattan SC for SC. And you have also analyzed whether to retake GMAT depending on your target schools and scholarship, which I think is sensible. In fact pushing from 620 to 710 seems more arduous than my 40 point increase. So congratulations! If you think you have time before b school applications and that time can be best devoted to GMAT preparation (instead of adding something to your profile, such as community activities etc.) then you can go for a retake. Though an improvement from 620 to 710 will impress anyone and 700+ is a good score to apply with.

in case you go for a retake, in quant you can improve with practice, as you are already at Q48. Q50 or Q51 should be easily achievable, and give you a good score jump. In verbal you can focus on harder problems. eg., in CR improving your strategies for less common question types, in SC focusing on intended meaning, punctuations etc. for differences in answer choices. Other common errors will come easy to you with practice. Good luck!


Thanks man.. I've already started apps and the school list you'll find on my profile. All schools pretty top notch. So let me see how my R1 results go. If I receive invites to interview I wouldn't bother retaking but if I don't I'll surely give it one more shot.

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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 05:23
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mayansd wrote:
avinash84 wrote:
I m preparing hard for the past two months, but scores are not improving. Specially the verbal part.
For me the devil part is the :twisted: CR and i did badly in the MGMAT last test(4/14 incorrect)
I did the Manhattan CR guide and is practicing hard on Verbal part.Can u please tell me the stuffs for a good rigorous practice in the last days.
Q 48 :arrow: Q 50
V 32 :arrow: V 38
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Hey avinash,

it is good that you are analyzing your progress and weak points. Generally when I reach a plateau, I take a break for 3-4 days. I rethink my study plan, study few hard problems for a longer time, and dig deep on how and where exactly I am lacking. As for CR, there are different strategies that work for different types of CR problems, and these strategies when practiced with, will work well for you.

Manhattan CR is good for strengthen/weaken/assumption/main point question types. These are the most common questions upto 700 level. For further strategies you may refer to powerscore CR bible. As you have 2 weeks left, I would suggest revise Manhattan CR and revise the problems that you did wrong, as after some time the CR question types and the types of wrong answers will start looking familiar to you.

you will find more good advice on this forum! good luck!

Thanks a ton mayan...I m practising the 700 pool question of this forum and analysing the mistakes and approaches.As u said,it is not possible for me to go for any new literature at this point of time.
So I am following ur suggestion and theory of dare,which can increase the score by 40 marks and I badly need that.
And hey good luck for ur applications :-D

Dear Mayank,
Today I gave the another MGMAT test and my score was
Q51 V33 (marked a question incorrectly) 680..I was expecting a 700 today ( is the split and overall score OK ???)
I am happy with my quant score, the verbal score is still paining.But the good thing is that I did good in CR after following your suggestions of going through hard questions with elaborate explanations.I think its working..... :roll:
I have still 10 more days to go and strongly believe that I can reach at least 38 in Verbal.....Any recommendation for the quality SC practice(I have read Manhattan's SC guide).
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 23:33
avinash84 wrote:
Dear Mayank,
Today I gave the another MGMAT test and my score was
Q51 V33 (marked a question incorrectly) 680..I was expecting a 700 today ( is the split and overall score OK ???)
I am happy with my quant score, the verbal score is still paining.But the good thing is that I did good in CR after following your suggestions of going through hard questions with elaborate explanations.I think its working..... :roll:
I have still 10 more days to go and strongly believe that I can reach at least 38 in Verbal.....Any recommendation for the quality SC practice(I have read Manhattan's SC guide).


Hi avinash,

Your scores have been consistently improving from 650 to 680 in MGMAT which is good. MGMAT quant is tough, and if you got Q51 in it, then you can expect Q50/51 in your GMAT, which will give you a good score jump.

Verbal was a pain to me too. Do you have GMAT verbal handbook? if yes that will give you a good practice for SC. Else, you can go for GMAT prep SC question bank (around 15 questions) and manhattan gmat online SC question bank (around 25 questions). Manhattan SC is a fantastic book for GMAT SC. As for me, I revised GMAT OG SC and Manhattan SC 2-3 days before my GMAT and that did help me. For harder problems you can always refer to gmatclub 700 level tagged SC problems. With your target of Q51 and V38, you will easily place yourself in GMAT 730-750 range. Good luck!

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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2011, 23:55
mayansd wrote:
avinash84 wrote:
Dear Mayank,
Today I gave the another MGMAT test and my score was
Q51 V33 (marked a question incorrectly) 680..I was expecting a 700 today ( is the split and overall score OK ???)
I am happy with my quant score, the verbal score is still paining.But the good thing is that I did good in CR after following your suggestions of going through hard questions with elaborate explanations.I think its working..... :roll:
I have still 10 more days to go and strongly believe that I can reach at least 38 in Verbal.....Any recommendation for the quality SC practice(I have read Manhattan's SC guide).


Hi avinash,

Your scores have been consistently improving from 650 to 680 in MGMAT which is good. MGMAT quant is tough, and if you got Q51 in it, then you can expect Q50/51 in your GMAT, which will give you a good score jump.

Verbal was a pain to me too. Do you have GMAT verbal handbook? if yes that will give you a good practice for SC. Else, you can go for GMAT prep SC question bank (around 15 questions) and manhattan gmat online SC question bank (around 25 questions). Manhattan SC is a fantastic book for GMAT SC. As for me, I revised GMAT OG SC and Manhattan SC 2-3 days before my GMAT and that did help me. For harder problems you can always refer to gmatclub 700 level tagged SC problems. With your target of Q51 and V38, you will easily place yourself in GMAT 730-750 range. Good luck!


Thanks for the motivation dude....I admire u.I am done with the Manhattan Q bank and OG SC and will revise them 2 or 3 days before D day as u did.
The 700 thread question pool is indeed a good practice for CR and SC.Well today this site is offering its tests free so I will try to make maximum use of it, any comments on these tests ??
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2011, 00:53
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The 700 thread question pool is indeed a good practice for CR and SC.Well today this site is offering its tests free so I will try to make maximum use of it, any comments on these tests ??


hey.. yes, labor day bonus, I forgot. I gave gmatclub verbal tests, and they were good practice. They may not be as adaptive as GMAT, but the questions are challenging.

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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 04:49
Mayank, thanks a lot for sharing your story with us.

Could you please shed some light on how you practiced and compiled/attacked/analyzed practice questions? Did you take one book and did questions from it and then moved on to another source?

Thanks a lot.
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 06:45
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Could you please shed some light on how you practiced and compiled/attacked/analyzed practice questions? Did you take one book and did questions from it and then moved on to another source?


Hello noname,

For areas in which I was strong, I practiced problems from one book, then moved on to other books. eg., I would do GMAT OG DS for 3-4 days, then take a MGMAT/800 score quant test.

For areas in which I was weak, I studied theory and practiced problems together. eg., in verbal, I would study 1-2 chapters from MGMAT SC, then solve 10-15 problems from GMAT verbal handbook, and then repeat this cycle. I would not mix two theory books or two problem books in one single day. Every book has got a set of strategies to solve questions, and has a set of questions based on these strategies. hence I would aim at mastering these strategies before moving on to other books.
hope that answered your question.

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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 11:29
Mayank, thanks for your reply.

Don't you think that there is a shortage of questions, especially if you need to concentrate on particular areas? How did you deal with that?

Also, can you please explain how you worked on your weak areas and how you analyzed your practice sessions/questions?

You mentioned that you were running out of time at the end of your preparation. How did you organize your preparation? Did you have something like practice sessions or did you just study randomly whenever you had time?
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 22:42
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Mayank, thanks for your reply.

Don't you think that there is a shortage of questions, especially if you need to concentrate on particular areas? How did you deal with that?

Also, can you please explain how you worked on your weak areas and how you analyzed your practice sessions/questions?

You mentioned that you were running out of time at the end of your preparation. How did you organize your preparation? Did you have something like practice sessions or did you just study randomly whenever you had time?


hello noname,

your question is valid. even I initially faced the problem while deciding "How much is enough preparation". I think your goals can define that. You can judge your potential and hence plan out a schedule for yourself. eg., if you are scoring 30-35 in verbal, you can expect to increase to 35-40 in one to two months, but not miraculously to 45-50 in the same time period (for most of the GMAT aspirants).

if you refer to standard books for GMAT, then I do not think there is a shortage of questions, as each question is a learning in itself. Whenever I felt that I needed more practice, I would solve gmatclub questions.

Regarding improving your weak areas, different people have different approach. I gain confidence by reading more theory, so I read verbal grammar books to improve my SC. You can stick to an approach that has worked for you in the past.

I had a study plan and I mostly stuck to it. I would usually study 1-2 hours on weekdays and 8-10 hours during weekends. But again I feel it is not the number of questions one solves or the number of hours one has studied, but rather the quality of efforts one has put in and the learning one has obtained during the process that matter on the D day.

hope that helped!

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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 06 Sep 2011, 23:42
Mayank, thanks a lot for your answers. They are very helpful.
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2011, 10:42
congrats man
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 14 Sep 2011, 10:12
Mayank, one final question: When would you recommend to take the first GMAT Prep test?
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2011, 13:21
Awesome debrief! I dont know how I missed this! The timing calculation is very good. I never really check this while taking practice tests. I'll definitely check this in next test. Thank you very much!
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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 20 Oct 2011, 10:26
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Mayank, one final question: When would you recommend to take the first GMAT Prep test?


GMAT prep 1 is supposed to be diagnostic test and GMAT prep 2 is a bit difficult (or the "real deal" if you may say.) generally people take gmat prep 1 before beginning their gmat preparation in order to gauge their performance in various areas of quant and verbal. then they take gmat prep 2 around 1 week before actual Gmat day.

I took Gmat prep-1 one month before D day, and Gmat prep-2 one week before D day. remember gmat prep is as close as you can get to actual gmat. also many (including me) have found it useful to attempt gmat prep tests multiple times.

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Re: 720 + dare = 760 [#permalink] New post 21 Oct 2011, 00:55
"I would be fool to back out without challenging my limits."

Inspirational statement, absolutely loved it, to be applied in other aspects of life as well.

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