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770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 21 May 2007, 19:58
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First off, I wanted to thank everyone that posted their experiences on GMATclub. I used this forum as my motivation and knowledge base; there is no way I could have reached this score without the forum.

So now a little about myself:

American born Indian (typical :lol:)
23 years old
2years of Work Experience in large cellphone provider
Undergrad: 3.46/4.00
Purdue Univ. BS Mech Engineering


I started studying for the GMAT on January 1st, my new year's resolution was to score well on the GMAT and I did it with half the year to go. I tried to study atleast 4 hours during the week and 10hours on weekends, this increased the closer I got to the test. I was always shooting for a 710 and never in my wildest dreams did I expect a 770. I hope this helps some schools look past the small amount of work experience.

I ended up going to China for work a month before my test, this really screwed with my studying because it was hard to find time out there to study. Plus, when I came back my SC was shot to all hell and I had 2 weeks before I took the test. I took my test on a Wednesday and took the Mon (study) and Tues (rest) off that week in order to get myself it the right mindset. If you can afford to take PTO, I highly recommend it.

Below are the books I used in order that I went through them.

Kaplan 2006
Good for basic concepts, but it doesn't tell you anything groundbreaking. I would recommend using the PR book for the introduction and completely skip the Kaplan book.

PR Cracking the GMAT
I thought this book provided a good introduction to most topics. I will be recommending this as a starting block for all of my friends that ask about GMAT preparation. They do a good job of touching on most topics, but do not provide enough detail.

Manhattan GMAT (All 7 books)
This is BY FAR the best series of book IMO. Not only do the books provide you with a lot of good information, I found the CATs and online material to be priceless. Everyone here raves about the SC book, but I really think that all of these books were instrumental in helping me achieve my score.

OG11
What else can be said? A ton of good practice problems here. I honestly don't remember too much except for the fact it took me forever to complete :-D.

Kaplan 800
Kaplan800 provides you with a good set of tough questions to go through. I do not think the concepts they present are useful at all, but I put a lot of weight in practice questions, and this book has them.

Practice CATS
I ended up doing quite a few CATs in order to prepare for the test. I thought I would get nervous on the day of the test, but my familiarity with the CATs kept me calm throughout the test. I actually got a little worried that I wasn't worrying, haha.

The GMATPrep CATs are great but I did not take more than 2, I wanted to avoid repeating questions as much as possible. This is where the Manhattan series really came in handy, it comes with 6 online CATs that I thought be just as good as GMATPrep. The quant section in MGMAT is harder than the real thing which I LOVED, I was ready for anything by the time I took the real test. I found the verbal section to be a little easier, but not by much. The predicted scores were also accurate even though there were differences in difficulty from the real GMAT.

Kaplan was horrible at predicting your score, but it provided a lot of good practice. The only reason I would recommend buying the Kaplan book is for more CAT practice tests. Don't pay attention to the score, I was given a 650 one time (Q50 V36) that should actually be a 710 going by the scores posted here, messed up.

Below is a list of my practice tests in chronological order

GMATPrep1 720
Kaplan 1 600
Kaplan 2 600
Kaplan 3 650
MGMAT 1 780 -> should be corrected down to ~730 per MGMAT's score corrections (old CATS slightly inflated scores)
PowerPrep 1 710
MGMAT 2 720
MGMAT 3 750 ->started to get real excited, closing in on test date and scoring well.
MGMAT 4 780 ->getting really excited but starting to doubt MGMAT's scoring validity.
MGMAT 5 730
GMATPrep2 760 -> I'm ready!!!

Tips & Tricks
I have some suggestions for a few things I learned along the way.

SC
A combination of understanding MGMAT's SC book and a lot of practice really helps out.

CR
No real tips here, I don't think you can improve upon CR much.

RC
Try 2 different methods. (1)Read the whole passage, take small notes, and then answer the questions. (2) Skim the passage, create a passage map highlighting important details, answer the questions.

I ended up doing #1 b/c I was finishing verbal with 20mins to go and did horrible with option#2. When I switched to #1, I remembered most details and had a better understanding of the authors intent and general tone. Try out both and pick whichever works for you. This was a quick way for me to increase my score.

PS
Pay attention to all of the details in the questions. For word problems, translate 1 phrase into an equation at a time. I thought the Manhattan series was very good for math also. I did not use the GMATclub challenges so I can not comment on them.

DS
Look at the initial statement, what do you need in addition to that in order to answer the question??? That is the biggest thing I worked on and it helped me greatly.

Also, write down the details that they give you. If it is a positive integer, I would write that down and that helped keep the details in my head. Pay attention to all the details, they can make or break you.


I hope this helps some people prepare for the GMAT, I know that the "Share your GMAT experience" section was the most helpful for me. Now on to the applications!!!


***Edit: I just realized I had my quant and verbal scores switched, Q51 V44***

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 [#permalink] New post 22 May 2007, 07:46
Thanks, forcefeed
Great info. Let us know how your application process goes.
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 [#permalink] New post 24 May 2007, 04:45
congrats on your awsome score....... (51 in quant...... *phew*)
U ROCK!!!!
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 [#permalink] New post 24 May 2007, 08:01
Wow another 770...its amazing how many of people have gotten the same incredibly high score in the last few weeks. Congrats thats a score that most people would kill to have.
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 [#permalink] New post 25 May 2007, 13:46
Thanks for the props! Now it is on to preparing for the apps and visiting schools.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 May 2007, 15:18
Wow
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 30 May 2007, 00:00
wel done.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2007, 01:11
well done buddy
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2007, 13:24
Great score...
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2007, 23:47
Hearty Congratulations buddy.
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2007, 00:07
nice! gives me motivation since im 22. lol
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 05 Jun 2007, 11:19
Congrats!!!!!!awesome score...I gave my gmat attempt last month, and didnt fare well..got a score of 480 (Q40 V17) with 2 mon's of preparation..got a 5 on 6 in the essays..very disappointed, coz i didnt expect such a low score in verbal...i did much better in practice tests, i got 580 and 570 in my power preps, dont understand where i went wrong in the real test :( it is ironical that i felt i did really well in verbal and finally thats wat pulled my score really down!!
now im planning to give it again, in 6 weeks, depending on how my preparation goes...would be great if u could give suggestions on how to prepare..looks like i'l have to concentrate on on the verbal sections, but i feel i am very weak in RC, please give me suggestions on how to improve it...thanks........
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 06 Jun 2007, 12:59
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Congrats!!!!!!awesome score...I gave my gmat attempt last month, and didnt fare well..got a score of 480 (Q40 V17) with 2 mon's of preparation..got a 5 on 6 in the essays..very disappointed, coz i didnt expect such a low score in verbal...i did much better in practice tests, i got 580 and 570 in my power preps, dont understand where i went wrong in the real test :( it is ironical that i felt i did really well in verbal and finally thats wat pulled my score really down!!
now im planning to give it again, in 6 weeks, depending on how my preparation goes...would be great if u could give suggestions on how to prepare..looks like i'l have to concentrate on on the verbal sections, but i feel i am very weak in RC, please give me suggestions on how to improve it...thanks........


Early on I found that I was struggling with the RC section. I was skimming the passages and then reading the questions. I would then look back to the passage after I read the question and this just didn't work out for me. I changed my strategy to reading the whole passage and then looking at the questions. I found that I had plenty of time left in verbal and reading the passages didn't really slow me down. I would suggest that you give that a shot.

Some people here recommend reading the Economist, but I do not have any first hand experience to offer regarding the magazine. Hope that helps out.
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2007, 15:10
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2007, 15:25
forcefeed wrote:
First off, I wanted to thank everyone that posted their experiences on GMATclub. I used this forum as my motivation and knowledge base; there is no way I could have reached this score without the forum.

So now a little about myself:

American born Indian (typical :lol:)
23 years old
2years of Work Experience in large cellphone provider
Undergrad: 3.46/4.00
Purdue Univ. BS Mech Engineering


I started studying for the GMAT on January 1st, my new year's resolution was to score well on the GMAT and I did it with half the year to go. I tried to study atleast 4 hours during the week and 10hours on weekends, this increased the closer I got to the test. I was always shooting for a 710 and never in my wildest dreams did I expect a 770. I hope this helps some schools look past the small amount of work experience.

I ended up going to China for work a month before my test, this really screwed with my studying because it was hard to find time out there to study. Plus, when I came back my SC was shot to all hell and I had 2 weeks before I took the test. I took my test on a Wednesday and took the Mon (study) and Tues (rest) off that week in order to get myself it the right mindset. If you can afford to take PTO, I highly recommend it.

Below are the books I used in order that I went through them.

Kaplan 2006
Good for basic concepts, but it doesn't tell you anything groundbreaking. I would recommend using the PR book for the introduction and completely skip the Kaplan book.

PR Cracking the GMAT
I thought this book provided a good introduction to most topics. I will be recommending this as a starting block for all of my friends that ask about GMAT preparation. They do a good job of touching on most topics, but do not provide enough detail.

Manhattan GMAT (All 7 books)
This is BY FAR the best series of book IMO. Not only do the books provide you with a lot of good information, I found the CATs and online material to be priceless. Everyone here raves about the SC book, but I really think that all of these books were instrumental in helping me achieve my score.

OG11
What else can be said? A ton of good practice problems here. I honestly don't remember too much except for the fact it took me forever to complete :-D.

Kaplan 800
Kaplan800 provides you with a good set of tough questions to go through. I do not think the concepts they present are useful at all, but I put a lot of weight in practice questions, and this book has them.

Practice CATS
I ended up doing quite a few CATs in order to prepare for the test. I thought I would get nervous on the day of the test, but my familiarity with the CATs kept me calm throughout the test. I actually got a little worried that I wasn't worrying, haha.

The GMATPrep CATs are great but I did not take more than 2, I wanted to avoid repeating questions as much as possible. This is where the Manhattan series really came in handy, it comes with 6 online CATs that I thought be just as good as GMATPrep. The quant section in MGMAT is harder than the real thing which I LOVED, I was ready for anything by the time I took the real test. I found the verbal section to be a little easier, but not by much. The predicted scores were also accurate even though there were differences in difficulty from the real GMAT.

Kaplan was horrible at predicting your score, but it provided a lot of good practice. The only reason I would recommend buying the Kaplan book is for more CAT practice tests. Don't pay attention to the score, I was given a 650 one time (Q50 V36) that should actually be a 710 going by the scores posted here, messed up.

Below is a list of my practice tests in chronological order

GMATPrep1 720
Kaplan 1 600
Kaplan 2 600
Kaplan 3 650
MGMAT 1 780 -> should be corrected down to ~730 per MGMAT's score corrections (old CATS slightly inflated scores)
PowerPrep 1 710
MGMAT 2 720
MGMAT 3 750 ->started to get real excited, closing in on test date and scoring well.
MGMAT 4 780 ->getting really excited but starting to doubt MGMAT's scoring validity.
MGMAT 5 730
GMATPrep2 760 -> I'm ready!!!

Tips & Tricks
I have some suggestions for a few things I learned along the way.

SC
A combination of understanding MGMAT's SC book and a lot of practice really helps out.

CR
No real tips here, I don't think you can improve upon CR much.

RC
Try 2 different methods. (1)Read the whole passage, take small notes, and then answer the questions. (2) Skim the passage, create a passage map highlighting important details, answer the questions.

I ended up doing #1 b/c I was finishing verbal with 20mins to go and did horrible with option#2. When I switched to #1, I remembered most details and had a better understanding of the authors intent and general tone. Try out both and pick whichever works for you. This was a quick way for me to increase my score.

PS
Pay attention to all of the details in the questions. For word problems, translate 1 phrase into an equation at a time. I thought the Manhattan series was very good for math also. I did not use the GMATclub challenges so I can not comment on them.

DS
Look at the initial statement, what do you need in addition to that in order to answer the question??? That is the biggest thing I worked on and it helped me greatly.

Also, write down the details that they give you. If it is a positive integer, I would write that down and that helped keep the details in my head. Pay attention to all the details, they can make or break you.


I hope this helps some people prepare for the GMAT, I know that the "Share your GMAT experience" section was the most helpful for me. Now on to the applications!!!


***Edit: I just realized I had my quant and verbal scores switched, Q51 V44***



WEll Congratulations Once again!!
I will really appreciate some suggetions here ..

I wanted to know that have you followed the MGMAT sereis with the basics also (i mean for the strategies ) or just go to the practice section ,to practice more no. of question..?

Have you tried Official guide Verbal And Quant.?

How is the PR book with DVD VS without DVD ?Which one to go for?

Can you kindly tell me lil more about AWA Section?Do you have explain the issues /arguments with examples..Or if you have followed any specific thing?

I thought of doing initially from PR and then go to OG..

How do i ass Mgmat stuff in to my study ..(as far now i have not bought the book SO if you any suggetions )..

Well i also think like if you practice hardest questions afront in your practice then you can get preprare with full confidence Becoz then it becomes easy for you to attempt easy questions at real exam ..

well i dont know i might be wrong but just wanted to share this thought.
So i am thinking to buy kaplan 800 as forceed told here ,that it has a set of hard questions..

Lots of luck with your apps..

tx
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2007, 09:54
Let me see if I can answer everything...

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I wanted to know that have you followed the MGMAT sereis with the basics also (i mean for the strategies ) or just go to the practice section ,to practice more no. of question..?


I followed the strategies that Manhattan suggested. I thought all of the books were insightful, not just the SC book.

Quote:
Have you tried Official guide Verbal And Quant.?

I only used the OG11, I did not buy the seperate verbal and quant guides.

Quote:
How is the PR book with DVD VS without DVD ?Which one to go for?

I really liked the PR book, I thought it was good for introducing a lot of the topics but it is not thorough enough. I bought the one with a DVD, but I never used the DVD.

Quote:
Can you kindly tell me lil more about AWA Section?Do you have explain the issues /arguments with examples..Or if you have followed any specific thing?

I found a set of templates that I liked. I would just brainstorm ideas and then shove it into the templates. I thought I wrote fairly poor essays, but they don't seem to be looking for great literature in the AWA section.

Quote:
I thought of doing initially from PR and then go to OG..

Sounds like a good plan.

Quote:
How do i ass Mgmat stuff in to my study ..(as far now i have not bought the book SO if you any suggetions )..

I reviewed all of the books first, had a good understanding of the concepts and then started the practice questions. OG11 was one of the last books I used because I only used it for the practice problems.

Quote:
Well i also think like if you practice hardest questions afront in your practice then you can get preprare with full confidence Becoz then it becomes easy for you to attempt easy questions at real exam ..

well i dont know i might be wrong but just wanted to share this thought.
So i am thinking to buy kaplan 800 as forceed told here ,that it has a set of hard questions..


I really think Kaplan800 is a good book to use. The strategies aren't strong, but the practice problems are challenging, which is what you need for a high score.

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Lots of luck with your apps..

tx
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Thanks, I know I am going to need it!
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Re: 770 (Q51 V44 AWA5.0) my first try!!! [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2007, 10:12
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Let me see if I can answer everything...

Quote:
I wanted to know that have you followed the MGMAT sereis with the basics also (i mean for the strategies ) or just go to the practice section ,to practice more no. of question..?


I followed the strategies that Manhattan suggested. I thought all of the books were insightful, not just the SC book.

Quote:
Have you tried Official guide Verbal And Quant.?

I only used the OG11, I did not buy the seperate verbal and quant guides.

Quote:
How is the PR book with DVD VS without DVD ?Which one to go for?

I really liked the PR book, I thought it was good for introducing a lot of the topics but it is not thorough enough. I bought the one with a DVD, but I never used the DVD.

Quote:
Can you kindly tell me lil more about AWA Section?Do you have explain the issues /arguments with examples..Or if you have followed any specific thing?

I found a set of templates that I liked. I would just brainstorm ideas and then shove it into the templates. I thought I wrote fairly poor essays, but they don't seem to be looking for great literature in the AWA section.

Quote:
I thought of doing initially from PR and then go to OG..

Sounds like a good plan.

Quote:
How do i ass Mgmat stuff in to my study ..(as far now i have not bought the book SO if you any suggetions )..

I reviewed all of the books first, had a good understanding of the concepts and then started the practice questions. OG11 was one of the last books I used because I only used it for the practice problems.

Quote:
Well i also think like if you practice hardest questions afront in your practice then you can get preprare with full confidence Becoz then it becomes easy for you to attempt easy questions at real exam ..

well i dont know i might be wrong but just wanted to share this thought.
So i am thinking to buy kaplan 800 as forceed told here ,that it has a set of hard questions..


I really think Kaplan800 is a good book to use. The strategies aren't strong, but the practice problems are challenging, which is what you need for a high score.

Quote:
Lots of luck with your apps..

tx
Ankita


Thanks, I know I am going to need it!



Thanks Forceed .. for your diversified answer ,i hope they are gone help me .
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congrats forcefed
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