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Math is definitely easier than the challenge, easier than a lot of the questions posted in this forum too, I think. If you can solve 9 out of ten questions posted here, I think you won't have a big problem for math in the test. I took a vow before the test that I cannot share the details of the questions even in parts so I can't tell you too much details but there are definitely some combination and permutation questions, percentage of increase questions, work questions, PS questions that test your understanding of the (a^2-b^2) formula that we've encountered many times in the challenges ... It's not out of scope of what we talk here at all.
Congratulations Hong Hu!!! 780 is an awesome score!!! I'm sure you've very hard for it and you definitely deserve it! Your posts have been very insightful and I was very sure of you crossing the 700 barrier!
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16 Feb 2005, 07:39
Jeeeeez. Its an awesome score. Its toooooo good. I was checking the GMAT experiences everyday and waiting to see your score, as I vaguely remember that you had yours on 12th Feb. You ROCK!!
Excellent Score and your point prove once again that there is no shortcut for Hardwork. Your responses and reasoning says it all. I admire the way you used to answer all the queries.
I know you are going to take the test in this week, so I keep checking the board, hoping to see your post. CONGRADULATION!!! You cracked it. I know you will do good, but 780, gosh, what an Awesome score.
I am studying some chinese material too, hope I can score 700+ as you do.
Thats such an awesome score...I honestly believe along if we all have like one or two good guides at the most and all stay super regular with the forum its very achievable to get 750+ just cause this forum makes u learn new stuff others may see and keeps re-teaching u stuff u knw so u dont forget it...and with everyones opinion in it u see every angle u can on a question...
...congrats....I knew you were going to score great.....good luck.! you should take pride not only in your good score but also the fact that you helped us all alot!
Hey...I got to admit, I am not too old. but with my work....I feel like I am 50! I mean the work load is so much, that I cant focus on my prep....I commend you that you pulled thru this while working....kudos to you!
good luck to you in the future...I suggest you should apply to HBS or Wharton Phd prgrams too...remember your GMAT score is valid for 5 yrs...
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Congrats HongHu. I knew you were gonna ace that sucker. Now it's time for me to tap your brain. Please do not leave the forum because i believe you can be of help to peeps like me who are still preparing. Congratulations once again.
Would you be able to comment on the math challenges? Were they useful? How can we improve them? Do you want to contribute to the premium forum in any way?
Thanks Praetorian! I have already commented on the 16th challenge after I did it. I think the challenges are great and definitely should continue. It gives the forum members great benefit in many aspects. Some of the questions actually are good prediction questions for the real tests, and the fact that they are much harder gives people the chance to feel what under pressure feels like.
I have benefited from the forum a lot, and I will definitely try to keep around. If there's anyway I could contribute more in the regular forums as well as the premium forums, I would love to do so.
Unlike math and grammar, I believe RC and CR depends more heavily on ones accumulated skills over a long period. One gets better with these things naturally when you use the language more often. Read different materials, write out your own opinions, participate in forum debate, all of these will help you getting the sense of the language.
However, most of us are preparing to take the test within several month, so long term strategy may not work. To get immediate short term improvement, I would suggest you focus your reading and practise on GMAT materials. (In other words, don't go read a novel or magazine etc.) I personally believe that the passages that were used in previous GMAT tests, such as those included in the OG, would be what I'd be focusing on.
I still remember a long long time ago, when I was in high school, my teacher asked me to read a part of a fiction to my class. I didn't like descriptions of environments at the time. When I read a book I would usually skip all those about how sun was coming up and trees were green and stuff, and jump to the interactions among people. I read the passages word by word, and my heart went into it when I read it. I enjoyed reading it, and the story made my classmates laugh at several occasions. When I finished it, my teacher said that I didn't read the first paragraph well where the author described smokes rising from a river and such. That was when I first realized the difference between reading a passage word by word and reading a passage using my heart.
The reason I went to such length to talk about reading is that I truly believe that it is very important. In a test it is very likely that you'd read the words, without taking them in. Then you'd go look at the questions, and try to come back to find your answer. But your time is tight, so you don't have time to re-read the passage, therefore you have to find something that sounds close, and choose it. Often, it would be the wrong answer.
What you should do, is to really read the passage, using your heart. Practise this, you'll know what I mean. You'll feel the difference yourself. When you read it, you'll truly understand what the author is saying. When you look at the questions, you can almost answer it already, without having to go back to the passage. You only need to go back to it to get a confirmation, or get the details that you omitted when you read it.
Critical reasoning is the same thing. You must truly understand what the author is arguing. Then you'll see his logic, and be able to find his assumptions and missing links, and what would weaken and strengthen his arguments. I'm not a native speaker so I'm not very good at grammar, but I feel that trying to understand the sentence is as important as learning all the grammartical rules and idomatic usages in helping me to find the correct answer.
Sorry that I have rambled so long. Hope this could be of a little help to you.
Many many (much much, more more all +ve comparatives.. ) congratulations to you for such a wonderful score (780 gashh.. awsome)..
Best of luck for ur applications...
U have been so much an inspiration for us. I was always looking at ur freaking number of posts which almost always was greater than next six putting altogether. I was/am also a fan of ur RC skills where ur percentage accuracy was almost 100%.
Ur inputs will be much more helpful. I have also adopted that reading from heart approach (for RC) and I am really observing the improvement but in doing so, I am loosing the grip on my timing. I am loosing alot of time in solving the RC questions. Will you suggest how I can improve the timing while I am reading cautiously at the same time?
Thanks for all your suggestions and again Best of luck for ur apps.
Many many congratulations Hong Hu. You really deserved it. I had been checking on your way of answering and solving at the forum, pretty impressive to say the least. And that too you managed to study against all odds and pressure is really credible.
So what is your back ground? Are you going for PhD. Is UR University of Rochester? I have a friend there doing PhD. Just wanted to know.