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A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities
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10 Jul 2008, 06:17
GUYS just be careful not to un-learn your concepts based on some given OA..stick with OG as your bible when you need the guidance..
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13 Oct 2008, 06:03
A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.

(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

A 1000 SC question but im not convinced with the OA
Need brain storming
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13 Oct 2008, 06:13

Two different events in the past, hence A
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13 Oct 2008, 06:15
is it D?

in A (allowed to had been dump) could mean that they were allowed to dump only once
and had been should be before reduced
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13 Oct 2008, 06:37
hmmm, I think I agree with Spiridion now . Two different events dont make much sense here.
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13 Oct 2008, 06:48
I remember seeing this one on GMATPrep. OA is D
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13 Oct 2008, 07:06
OA is D ?
I don't see anything wrong with A. Event took place in 1972, if it said last year, or recently I'd think about D. Spiridon, had been goes with allowed what, yes, happened only once (probably by signing prior agreement). And tense sequence is fine in A - past action - signing new agreement in 1972 changed smth what happened before that - had been allowed.
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13 Oct 2008, 07:38
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OA is D ?
I don't see anything wrong with A. Event took place in 1972, if it said last year, or recently I'd think about D. Spiridon, had been goes with allowed what, yes, happened only once (probably by signing prior agreement). And tense sequence is fine in A - past action - signing new agreement in 1972 changed smth what happened before that - had been allowed.

The municipalities "are" allowed because that is happening today also.
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13 Oct 2008, 09:49
Guys i posted this question since i had doubts on C as the option !!

Any agreement dated any date of any past time imposes rules on the curent activity of present time
WHY cant the answer BE C ?
CAN ANYONE CLARIFY !!!!!!
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13 Oct 2008, 10:00
You can find the Official Explanation in OG11 Qno 62. (Pg 689)

It says: D. Correct. The past tense reduced is correctly used in this sentence to describe a past action, and the present tense are allowed is used to describe the present situation.

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13 Oct 2008, 10:09
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You can find the Official Explanation in OG11 Qno 62. (Pg 689)

It says: D. Correct. The past tense reduced is correctly used in this sentence to describe a past action, and the present tense are allowed is used to describe the present situation.

Oh my god !!!
i did not cross check !!!
Thanks amit i will take care of this !!!
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I was doing several of the SC_1000 problems. I got to about 200, then decided to quit after reading that SC problems should not be done without an explanation to go along with it. I went back to studying questions from the OG to review. Turns out, a lot of the problems in the SC_1000 file overlap with the OG.

I was getting pissed off at myself because I was missing so many questions on the SC_1000. When I went back to the OG, I started getting about 85-90% right.

I realized that many of the SC_1000 questions are wrong!!! NO wonder.

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2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

OA: D

Just wanted to let you know that studying WITH an explanation is MORE important than just practicing, ESPECIALLY if the answers are WRONG!!!
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I was doing several of the SC_1000 problems. I got to about 200, then decided to quit after reading that SC problems should not be done without an explanation to go along with it. I went back to studying questions from the OG to review. Turns out, a lot of the problems in the SC_1000 file overlap with the OG.

I was getting pissed off at myself because I was missing so many questions on the SC_1000. When I went back to the OG, I started getting about 85-90% right.

I realized that many of the SC_1000 questions are wrong!!! NO wonder.

Example:
2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

OA: D

Just wanted to let you know that studying WITH an explanation is MORE important than just practicing, ESPECIALLY if the answers are WRONG!!!

Significant no of questions in SC 1000 have incorrect answers or debatable answers. Don't trust 100% SC-1000 answers.
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Nach0 wrote:
I was doing several of the SC_1000 problems. I got to about 200, then decided to quit after reading that SC problems should not be done without an explanation to go along with it. I went back to studying questions from the OG to review. Turns out, a lot of the problems in the SC_1000 file overlap with the OG.

I was getting pissed off at myself because I was missing so many questions on the SC_1000. When I went back to the OG, I started getting about 85-90% right.

I realized that many of the SC_1000 questions are wrong!!! NO wonder.

Example:
2. A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

OA: D

Just wanted to let you know that studying WITH an explanation is MORE important than just practicing, ESPECIALLY if the answers are WRONG!!!

Signicant no of questions in SC 1000 hava incorrect answer or debatable answers. Don't trust 100% SC-1000 answers.

Suresh,
What about 1000 RC and 1000 CR?? Are they good, I am planning to use them.
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I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.
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01 Jun 2009, 21:41
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I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.

I completely agree with you and I would have selected F, had it been there. However, thru POE you can reach to answer D and thats what I did when I attempted this. I too dint like the construction but still this was best among the lot.
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marshpa wrote:
I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.

I completely agree with you and I would have selected F, had it been there. However, thru POE you can reach to answer D and thats what I did when I attempted this. I too dint like the construction but still this was best among the lot.

Then Can you please tell then why not A? Reason A almost says what F has to offer.
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02 Jun 2009, 14:16
I thought A was the original answer to the question, and I don't see what is wrong with it. In the future, please underline the sentence. thanks
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marshpa wrote:
hemantsood wrote:
marshpa wrote:
I am sure, many of us have seen this question and can report the OA. However I am more interested in brainstorming about this question. First, I want to understand OE.

A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.
(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump
(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping
(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump
(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dump
(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities

Second, I want to analyze if we have another option-
(F) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities were allowed to dump

Will this would be correct?

More detailed responses are appreciated.

I completely agree with you and I would have selected F, had it been there. However, thru POE you can reach to answer D and thats what I did when I attempted this. I too dint like the construction but still this was best among the lot.

Then Can you please tell then why not A? Reason A almost says what F has to offer.

Because A says that there was point in time when dumping was allowed and it stopped at later point of time that also exists in past. However, D says that dumping is still continue.

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02 Jun 2009, 15:20
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Because A says that there was point in time when dumping was allowed and it stopped at later point of time that also exist in time. However, D says that dumping is still continue.

First of all, what you're saying doesn't make any sense.
Second of all, even if you what you said does make sense, I disagree.
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