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A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of 4\sqrt{\pi{\sqrt{3}} meters and an equilateral triangle painted on the interior side of the base. A grain of sand is dropped into the tank, and has an equal probability of landing on any particular point on the base. If the probability of the grain of sand landing on the portion of the base outside the triangle is 3/4, what is the length of a side of the triangle?

A. \sqrt{2{\sqrt{6}}

B. \frac{\sqrt{6{\sqrt{6}}}}{2}

C. \sqrt{2{\sqrt{3}}

D. \sqrt{3}

E. 2
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Re: Probability Triangle(700 lvl Qn ) [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2010, 02:43
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A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of meters and an equilateral triangle painted on the interior side of the base. A grain of sand is dropped into the tank, and has an equal probability of landing on any particular point on the base. If the probability of the grain of sand landing on the portion of the base outside the triangle is 3/4, what is the length of a side of the triangle?


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A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of 4\sqrt{\pi{\sqrt{3}} meters and an equilateral triangle painted on the interior side of the base. A grain of sand is dropped into the tank, and has an equal probability of landing on any particular point on the base. If the probability of the grain of sand landing on the portion of the base outside the triangle is 3/4, what is the length of a side of the triangle?

A. \sqrt{2{\sqrt{6}}

B. \frac{\sqrt{6{\sqrt{6}}}}{2}

C. \sqrt{2{\sqrt{3}}

D. \sqrt{3}

E. 2

Given: circumference=4\sqrt{\pi{\sqrt{3}} and P(out)=\frac{3}{4}

Now, as the probability of the grain of sand landing on the portion of the base outside the triangle is 3/4 then the the portion of the base (circle) outside the triangle must be 3/4 of the are of the base and the triangle itself 1/4 of the are of the base.

Next: circumference=4\sqrt{\pi{\sqrt{3}}}=2\pi{r} --> square both sides --> 16\pi{\sqrt{3}}=4{\pi}^2{r}^2 --> 4{\sqrt{3}}={\pi}{r}^2 --> area_{base}=\pi{r^2}=4{\sqrt{3}};

The area of the equilateral triangle is 1/4 of the base: area_{equilateral}=\frac{1}{4}*4{\sqrt{3}}=\sqrt{3} --> also the ares of the equilateral triangle is area_{equilateral}=a^2*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}, where a is the length of a side --> area_{equilateral}=a^2*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}=\sqrt{3} --> a=2.

Answer: E.
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Re: Probability Triangle(700 lvl Qn ) [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2010, 02:51
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Re: Probability Triangle(700 lvl Qn ) [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 07:13
A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of 4(sqrt(pi sqrt(3)) meters and an equilateral triangle painted on the interior side of the base. A grain of sand is dropped into the tank, and has an equal probability of landing on any particular point on the base. If the probability of the grain of sand landing on the portion of the base outside the triangle is 3/4, what is the length of a side of the triangle?

A. \sqrt{2{\sqrt{6}}

B. \frac{\sqrt{6{\sqrt{6}}}}{2}

C. \sqrt{2{\sqrt{3}}

D. \sqrt{3}

E. 2

Given: circumference=4\sqrt{\pi{\sqrt{3}} and P(out)=\frac{3}{4}

Now, as the probability of the grain of sand landing on the portion of the base outside the triangle is 3/4 then the the portion of the base (circle) outside the triangle must be 3/4 of the are of the base and the triangle itself 1/4 of the are of the base.

Next: circumference=4\sqrt{\pi{\sqrt{3}}}=2\pi{r} --> square both sides --> 16\pi{\sqrt{3}}=4{\pi}^2{r}^2 --> 4{\sqrt{3}}={\pi}{r}^2 --> area_{base}=\pi{r^2}=4{\sqrt{3}};

The area of the equilateral triangle is 1/4 of the base: area_{equilateral}=\frac{1}{4}*4{\sqrt{3}}=\sqrt{3} --> also the ares of the equilateral triangle is area_{equilateral}=a^2*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}, where a is the length of a side --> area_{equilateral}=a^2*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}=\sqrt{3} --> a=2.

Answer: E.[/quote]

Hello Bunuel

ur explanation is perfect . i just cant understand one thing. i know that formula for the side of equilateral triangle inscribed in the circle
should be a= √3 * r where r is radius and a is side of the triangle, but when using this formula i am not getting the right answer in the above exmpl. what could be the problem? is somth. wrong with formula ? thanks
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Answer: E.


Hello Bunuel

ur explanation is perfect . i just cant understand one thing. i know that formula for the side of equilateral triangle inscribed in the circle
should be a= √3 * r where r is radius and a is side of the triangle, but when using this formula i am not getting the right answer in the above exmpl. what could be the problem? is somth. wrong with formula ? thanks[/quote]

The triangle is not necessarily inscribed because it is not mentioned in the question. It can be any equilateral triangle drawn within the base. The vertices of the triangle may not touch the circle.
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Re: Probability Triangle(700 lvl Qn ) [#permalink] New post 17 Mar 2011, 01:40
2*pi*r = 4(sqrt(pi sqrt(3))

=> r = 4(sqrt(pi sqrt(3))/2*pi = 2(sqrt(pi sqrt(3))/pi

Area of circle C = pi * r^2 = 4 * pi* 1/(pi)^2 * pi * sqrt(3) = 4*sqrt(3)


A/C = 1/4

=> A = sqrt(3)

Area of Triangle = sqrt(3) = sqrt(3)/4 * (side)^2

So side = sqrt(4) = 2

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Re: A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 09:59
could u please explain me why we cant use this formula here ?

The radius of the circumscribed circle is R=a*\sqrt{3}/3

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Re: A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2013, 08:10
Hi Bunuel,
can you explain
how can you consider P(out) as fraction of total base?


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Re: A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2013, 08:39
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Hi Bunuel,
can you explain
how can you consider P(out) as fraction of total base?


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Bigger the area bigger the probability of a grain landing there. P(out)=3/4 simply means that the the portion of the base (circle) outside the triangle must be 3/4 of the are of the base.
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Re: A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2013, 07:29
Hi,

Let P(E) = Probability of grain landing inside triangle = 1 - 3/4 = 1/4;--------(1)
Also P(E) = Area of Equilateral Triangle/Area of Base(i.e. Circle) ---------- (2)

Area (Triangle) = (3^1/2 / 4 )*a^2
Area (Circle) = pi*r^2 = pi * (2(3^1/2/pi)^1/2)^2 = 4*3^1/2

By using 1 & 2

a = 4 (Ans.)

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Re: A cylindrical tank has a base with a circumference of [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2013, 08:35
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Hi,

Let P(E) = Probability of grain landing inside triangle = 1 - 3/4 = 1/4;--------(1)
Also P(E) = Area of Equilateral Triangle/Area of Base(i.e. Circle) ---------- (2)

Area (Triangle) = (3^1/2 / 4 )*a^2
Area (Circle) = pi*r^2 = pi * (2(3^1/2/pi)^1/2)^2 = 4*3^1/2

By using 1 & 2

a = 4 (Ans.)

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