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A patient accusing a doctor of malpractice will find it difficult to prove damage if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify about proper medical procedures.
(A) if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify
(B) unless there will be another doctor to testify
(C) without another doctor’s testimony
(D) should there be no testimony from some other doctor
(E) lacking another doctor to testify
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05 Jun 2009, 10:45
It's B. "If" is not required in choice A. C, D, and E change the intended meaning of sentence.
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05 Jun 2009, 13:12
vannu wrote:
A patient accusing a doctor of malpractice will find it difficult to prove damage if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify about proper medical procedures.
(A) if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify
(B) unless there will be another doctor to testify
(C) without another doctor’s testimony
(D) should there be no testimony from some other doctor
(E) lacking another doctor to testify

I choose C. It's far more concise than the rest of the answer choices.
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05 Jun 2009, 17:47
OA is 'C'.

I think most of us are falling in the same trap.I was not sure whether to pick C or B and picked B as it says they will need another doctor to testify..

How to solve these kind of questions? any ideas, please..
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05 Jun 2009, 18:59
C is the most concise, although multiple answer choices are correct grammatically. I think these are quite difficult unless you are a native speaker, since C "sounds" right by ear.
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In my view, (B) is wrong.

After searching the usage of "unless" on the internet, then I found this example:

"Unless she hurries up, we won't arrive in time."

You'll see that it uses present simple tense in the unless clause, and uses future tense (will not) in the Then clause.

Then look at this problem, you'll see that it already uses "will" in the Then Clause. Therefore, it is not able to use future tense again in the Unless clause.

The same structure of If...Then is also in the MGMAT SC.
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In my view, (B) is wrong.

After searching the usage of "unless" on the internet, then I found this example:

"Unless she hurries up, we won't arrive in time."

You'll see that it uses present simple tense in the unless clause, and uses future tense (will not) in the Then clause.

Then look at this problem, you'll see that it already uses "will" in the Then Clause. Therefore, it is not able to use future tense again in the Unless clause.

The same structure of If...Then is also in the MGMAT SC.

is this a rule ( having a simple present in dependent clause and simple future in independent clause)? or is this just your observation? appreciate your inputs on this one. Cause I really had no Idea when I was solving this question. I eliminated B only on the grounds of lengthyness.

so if we rewrite the option B like below, then you think B can be the answer?

"unless there is another doctor who will testify" ?
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15 Jun 2009, 09:41
vannu wrote:
OA is 'C'.

I think most of us are falling in the same trap.I was not sure whether to pick C or B and picked B as it says they will need another doctor to testify..

How to solve these kind of questions? any ideas, please..

Yes, it seems tough.
I used to have the same difficulty. Although I'm not perfect now, but I'm getting better at it now.

don't rule out the most concise answer choice at the first thought just because it seems to alter the meaning of the sentence. Think of the underlying MEANING of it.
only after that, rule it out.
I'm non-native speaker of english as well. it has helped me every time I try to understand the MEANING of the sentence. Before I started doing it, I just used to read the SC question to FIND the mistake.

hope it helps.
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15 Jun 2009, 16:07
I also picked C however more of gut feeling , not able to find issues with other options .Can some one explain
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15 Jun 2009, 18:14
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A patient accusing a doctor of malpractice will find it difficult to prove damage if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify about proper medical procedures.
(A) if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify
(B) unless there will be another doctor to testify
(C) without another doctor’s testimony
(D) should there be no testimony from some other doctor
(E) lacking another doctor to testify

IMO, "to testify ABOUT" sound wrong. Correct usage should be "to testify against" or "to testify to". Hence, we're left with options C and D. The flow of sentence in D is weird, from "testimony" to "other doctor" to "testimony about proper medical procedures". Option C's order is better, from "other doctor" to "testimony" to "testimony about proper medical procedures". Thus, C.
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ugimba wrote:
RisingForceX wrote:
In my view, (B) is wrong.

After searching the usage of "unless" on the internet, then I found this example:

"Unless she hurries up, we won't arrive in time."

You'll see that it uses present simple tense in the unless clause, and uses future tense (will not) in the Then clause.

Then look at this problem, you'll see that it already uses "will" in the Then Clause. Therefore, it is not able to use future tense again in the Unless clause.

The same structure of If...Then is also in the MGMAT SC.

is this a rule ( having a simple present in dependent clause and simple future in independent clause)? or is this just your observation? appreciate your inputs on this one. Cause I really had no Idea when I was solving this question. I eliminated B only on the grounds of lengthyness.

so if we rewrite the option B like below, then you think B can be the answer?

"unless there is another doctor who will testify" ?

To ugimba,

Since I'm not a native speaker of English, I cannot tell you much confidently that it's a rule. However, in the MGMAT SC the book I used as the reference, it says again that "Note also that the conditional words would and could NEVER appear in the IF clause." In addition, it shows other If...Then tense consturtions: If..(Past Tenses).., Then ...(would/could)... and If...(Past Perfect)..., Then...(would/could+have+Past Participle)....

In my opinion, if we re-write (B) as you've shown. Obviously, there's "will" in the Unless clause. Consequently, it's still incorrect. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just very new to this forum. Thank you
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16 Jun 2009, 00:21
I agree with 'B'.

A patient accusing a doctor of malpractice will find it difficult to prove damage ____________ about proper medical procedures.

(B) unless there will be another doctor to testify. In the same flow.

'B' has a better framing than 'C'.
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ugimba wrote:
RisingForceX wrote:
In my view, (B) is wrong.

After searching the usage of "unless" on the internet, then I found this example:

"Unless she hurries up, we won't arrive in time."

You'll see that it uses present simple tense in the unless clause, and uses future tense (will not) in the Then clause.

Then look at this problem, you'll see that it already uses "will" in the Then Clause. Therefore, it is not able to use future tense again in the Unless clause.

The same structure of If...Then is also in the MGMAT SC.

is this a rule ( having a simple present in dependent clause and simple future in independent clause)? or is this just your observation? appreciate your inputs on this one. Cause I really had no Idea when I was solving this question. I eliminated B only on the grounds of lengthyness.

so if we rewrite the option B like below, then you think B can be the answer?

"unless there is another doctor who will testify" ?

To ugimba,

Since I'm not a native speaker of English, I cannot tell you much confidently that it's a rule. However, in the MGMAT SC the book I used as the reference, it says again that "Note also that the conditional words would and could NEVER appear in the IF clause." In addition, it shows other If...Then tense consturtions: If..(Past Tenses).., Then ...(would/could)... and If...(Past Perfect)..., Then...(would/could+have+Past Participle)....

In my opinion, if we re-write (B) as you've shown. Obviously, there's "will" in the Unless clause. Consequently, it's still incorrect. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just very new to this forum. Thank you

Thank you for your inputs.. I will post here if I find any new information on this one..
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16 Jun 2009, 10:59
Agree with C.

well nice to see some details on usage of unless, keep us posted is find something new:).
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To ugimba,

Since I'm not a native speaker of English, I cannot tell you much confidently that it's a rule. However, in the MGMAT SC the book I used as the reference, it says again that "Note also that the conditional words would and could NEVER appear in the IF clause." In addition, it shows other If...Then tense consturtions: If..(Past Tenses).., Then ...(would/could)... and If...(Past Perfect)..., Then...(would/could+have+Past Participle)....

In my opinion, if we re-write (B) as you've shown. Obviously, there's "will" in the Unless clause. Consequently, it's still incorrect. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just very new to this forum. Thank you [/quote]

Thank you for your inputs.. I will post here if I find any new information on this one..[/quote]

Yeah, Even in opinion C should be the right answer.
If we treat this question as simple IF..THEN clause thenprobably this will become more clear. IF and then has a cause effect relation so at a time both can not be in same tense. If we look in the question the "effect "part is already in future tense. Hence optiin B is incorrect and that leaves woth the obvious answer choiceC
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12 Aug 2009, 13:04
agree with C,

B is wrong cause we usually say something will happen, unless we DO something.... not we will do something...
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12 Aug 2009, 13:43
C is more concise and sounds right.
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13 Aug 2009, 21:31
vannu wrote:
A patient accusing a doctor of malpractice will find it difficult to prove damage if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify about proper medical procedures.
(A) if there is a lack of some other doctor to testify
(B) unless there will be another doctor to testify
(C) without another doctor’s testimony
(D) should there be no testimony from some other doctor
(E) lacking another doctor to testify

A and B are wordy.
D and E are just awkward.
C is clear and concise.
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29 Oct 2009, 08:14
I took C because "testify about" seems to be incorrect
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22 Aug 2010, 08:07
Unless grammar rules:
http://www.edufind.com/english/grammar/IF9.cfm
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