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A physician who is too thorough in conducting a medical checkup is likely to subject the patient to the discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests. One who is not thorough enough is likely to miss some serious problem and therefore give the patient a false sense of security. It is difficult for physicians to judge exactly how thorough they should be. Therefore, it is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill.
Which one of the following, if true, would most seriously weaken the argument in the passage?
(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.
(B) Under the pressure of reduced reimbursements, physicians have been reducing the average amount of time they spend on each medical checkup.
(C) Patients not medically trained are unable to judge foe themselves what degree of thoroughness is appropriate for physicians in conducting medical checkups.
(D) Many people are financially unable to afford regular medical checkups.
(E) Some physicians sometimes exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup.

For me is between A and E
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Conclusion : It is UNWISE for some patients to have medical tests when they DO NOT feel ill.
Reverse of conclusion : It is WISE for some patients to have medical tests when they DO NOT feel ill.
The weakening argument will attack both the assumptions
1) medical checkup are bad because they likely to subject the patient to the discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests
2) medical checkup are bad because physician may miss a serious problem and therefore give the patient a false sense of security

No (discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests) + No (false sense of security) = Wise Medical Checkup.

A attacks 2), E attacks 2). The weakening argument will attack BOTH.
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2010, 19:06
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Hi,

actually, none of the five choices successfully weaken the argument. The author's conclusion is that you shouldn't go for a medical check up if you don't feel ill. (Or, you should only go for a medical checkup if you do feel ill). In order to weaken an argument, we need to find a chocie that renders this conclusion less likely to be true....none of the five choices do that job.

Choice A comes close but we don't know whether the patients in choice A feel ill or not. (We know that they are in the early stages of their disease but that doesn't mean that they don't feel ill).

Choice B--the passage doesn't give us enough information to judge what impact reduced patient-time has. It simply ignores the issue of whether patients who feel okay should go for a medical checkup. Outside the scope.

Similarly, choices C and D are clearly outside the scope.

Choice E doesn't weaken the argument. The author discusses physicians who aren't thorough enough and those who are too thorough. This certainly doesn't mean that the author thinks no physicians get it just right. IF choice E said "ALL physicians exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness..." THEN it would be a weakener. (Strategy aside: "extreme" choices can easily be correct in strengthen/weaken questions).

Either a) the source of this question is bad or else b) the original poster failed to correctly (or completely) transcribe the passage or one or more of the answer choices. (The fact that there is no correct answer among the five choices posted is also why there is so much controversy over which choice is correct. Remember, as everywhere else in the GMAT, in CR, there is ONE correct answer that is categorically distinct from the four wrong answers. And each of the four wrong answers is wrong for identifiable reasons...there's one right and four rotten answers).
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2010, 06:58
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But this doesn;t make sense.


Exactly!

Which is why I'm saying that there is either a transcription error (somewhere--either from original source to secondary source or else from source to poster) or else the question is bad.

In this case, I think it's the former because this question sure does sound familiar to me...I think it may be an LSAT question that I've encountered (I teach LSAT as well).

Hopefully, noboru will shed some light here. Noboru, where exactly did you get this question from, and again, are you quite certain you've transribed accurately.
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 29 Jun 2010, 14:04
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Thanks for that noboru. Because you posed the question so fully, and because it is LSAT, I was able to use Kaplan's resources to locate the question. Although the source is LSAT, you can't have copied and pasted directly from the exam because LSAT is a paper-and-pencil test. So you must have gotten it from a secondary source which, in turn, got it from the LSAT. I thought this question looked familiar. Your source mistranscribed choice A.

Choice A actually reads:

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Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect, although patients are not aware of any problem.


The part in bold was the part that was missing from your original post and, needless to say, it makes a HUGE difference. Now (and only now), do we know that the patients in choice A DID NOT FEEL ILL.

The official source is: LSAT, Preptest 10, Section 4, Question 1.

I guess this is a good reminder of being careful in trusting internet sources even if they purport to provide official questions!
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2010, 05:32
IMO E. The conclusion says that patients must not have medical checkups when they DO NOT feel ill.

If, some physicians sometimes can exercise the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup, then it weakens the argument because in that case, patients can have checkups even when they are not necessarily ill.

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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2010, 06:25
IMO: A

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A physician who is too thorough in conducting a medical checkup is likely to subject the patient to the discomfort and expense of unnecessary tests. One who is not thorough enough is likely to miss some serious problem and therefore give the patient a false sense of security. It is difficult for physicians to judge exactly how thorough they should be. Therefore, it is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill.
Which one of the following, if true, would most seriously weaken the argument in the passage?
(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.
(B) Under the pressure of reduced reimbursements, physicians have been reducing the average amount of time they spend on each medical checkup.
(C) Patients not medically trained are unable to judge foe themselves what degree of thoroughness is appropriate for physicians in conducting medical checkups.
(D) Many people are financially unable to afford regular medical checkups.
(E) Some physicians sometimes exercise exactly the right degree of thoroughness in performing a medical checkup.

For me is between A and E

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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2010, 10:05
IMO : A

The word readily would imply that serious diseases can be detected fairly easily and without a thorough examination. E shouldn't dissuade the argument since it was never said in the passage that there is not any doctors that may perform an accurately thorough examination.
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 12 Jun 2010, 02:26
IMO A

Conclusion: it is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill.

What if the patient feels ill only after the disease has progressed to an advanced stage?
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 13 Jun 2010, 22:39
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 01:50
IMO A
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 04:18
IMO A

E Is incorrect coz it refers to " SOME physicians @ apart from other errors
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 07:13
A for me too .. wat is the OA ?
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 07:24
IMO "C"

In A & E, the word "some" is used, hence limiting the scope.

In "C", if the patient is unaware of what the thorough treatment is, then he will neither feel discomfort nor feel a false sense of security.

Funny!!??? :) But this is my take.
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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 08:19
yeah. some do and some don't so what?

I agree with this explanation. IMO : C
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IMO "C"

In A & E, the word "some" is used, hence limiting the scope.

In "C", if the patient is unaware of what the thorough treatment is, then he will neither feel discomfort nor feel a false sense of security.

Funny!!??? :) But this is my take.

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Re: physician who is too thorough [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 13:09
Conclusion: It is generally unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill, becasue some doctors might precribe you to unnecessary tests and those tests will make you discomfortable and spend money.

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 [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 18:08
(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.

IMO this is the answer. The argument is that doctors either are too thorough or not enough and give a false sense of security. The conclusion go to the doctor only when you have symptoms.
We are asked to weaken this and that is done by choice A. Some illnesses don't show any symptoms but can be readily detected if you go to the doctor.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 19:53
"Some" means not all diseases can be detected by physicians in early states-> when Physicians fail patient will feel insecure.
(A) Some serious diseases in their early stages have symptoms that physicians can readily detect.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 20:28
IMO A is the best answer. It weakens the conclusion that "unwise for patients to have medical checkups when they do not feel ill". So people need to do checkup even though they dont feel ill. What is OA?
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