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A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg

A A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included
B The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included
C Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist, included
D Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits are
E The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly included
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 11 May 2012, 22:57
most of these questions are the new ones from OG 13. Time permitting, I'll post some harder questions later on today...
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 12 May 2012, 04:13
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A. A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included –Dangling modifier
B. The exploits of, a pioneer journalist, included: Correct format a pioneer journalist modifies Nellie Bly
C Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist, included---- a run -on
D Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits are: Inverted clause SV mismatch
E The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly included----- journalist's exploits of Nellie- a clumsy redundancy and may even imply as if the pioneer journalist and Nellie were two different entities
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2012, 07:25
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A. A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included –Dangling modifier
B. The exploits of, a pioneer journalist, included: Correct format a pioneer journalist modifies Nellie Bly
C Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist, included---- a run -on
D Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits are: Inverted clause SV mismatch
E The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly included----- journalist's exploits of Nellie- a clumsy redundancy and may even imply as if the pioneer journalist and Nellie were two different entities


the original poster has some typos in option C. The correct option is :-

C. Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in her exploits the

@ daagh - pls. provide some insight why option C is wrong as i have marked it as my answer :(

@moderator - pls. edit the original poster
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 02 Aug 2012, 08:10
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Hi @paras123,

This is the sentence with choice C:

Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in her exploits the circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg.

We have a verb-ing modifier “including” here that is modifying the previous noun entity “a pioneer journalist”. Nellie Bly is this pioneer journalist. So “including” is basically modifying Nellie Bly.

Now this modifier does not make sense with the subject “Nellie Bly” here because per this choice, the sentence seems to means that Nellie Bly was a journalist and because of being a journalist she included in her exploits the circling. This is not the intended meaning. It is Bly’s exploits that included the circling. So that should

Also this sentence is not very grammatical. This phrase “the circling the globe” is not grammatical. These are the reasons for this sentence to be incorrect.

Hope this helps.
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 12 Jan 2013, 09:37
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Hi @paras123,

This is the sentence with choice C:

Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in her exploits the circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg.

We have a verb-ing modifier “including” here that is modifying the previous noun entity “a pioneer journalist”. Nellie Bly is this pioneer journalist. So “including” is basically modifying Nellie Bly.

Now this modifier does not make sense with the subject “Nellie Bly” here because per this choice, the sentence seems to means that Nellie Bly was a journalist and because of being a journalist she included in her exploits the circling. This is not the intended meaning. It is Bly’s exploits that included the circling. So that should

Also this sentence is not very grammatical. This phrase “the circling the globe” is not grammatical. These are the reasons for this sentence to be incorrect.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.
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Shraddha,

Thanks much for the explanation. Can you please also clarify if C is a run-on sentence and if yes, how ?
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 10:29
egmat wrote:
Hi @paras123,

This is the sentence with choice C:

Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in her exploits the circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg.

We have a verb-ing modifier “including” here that is modifying the previous noun entity “a pioneer journalist”. Nellie Bly is this pioneer journalist. So “including” is basically modifying Nellie Bly.

Now this modifier does not make sense with the subject “Nellie Bly” here because per this choice, the sentence seems to means that Nellie Bly was a journalist and because of being a journalist she included in her exploits the circling. This is not the intended meaning. It is Bly’s exploits that included the circling. So that should

Also this sentence is not very grammatical. This phrase “the circling the globe” is not grammatical. These are the reasons for this sentence to be incorrect.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.
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There is a serious bug in my SC understanding and i wish to kill it once and for all.
This bug has again resurfaced in this OG13 question. I would really appreciate if u could help me resolve this problem. So here it is-

A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg

A A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included
B The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included
C Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist, included
D Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits are
E The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly included

B The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included
I marked this answer wrong since i had wrongly interpreted that The exploits of Nellie Bly is a noun modifier, which is incorrectly modifying a pioneer journalist, the noun next to the modifier. I repeatedly do such kinds of mistakes in modifiers. Can you suggest how i can unlearn such misconceptions.
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 05 Apr 2013, 11:26
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The problem number is #19 from OG v13 and the OA is B.

Logical predication: Modification.

Just for clarity, the official guide explanation for why C is wrong is The wording of this version is illogical because it makes Nellie Bly the subject of the verb including
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2013, 05:15
Modifiers refer to the noun immediately preceding it. "a pioneer journalist" correctly refers to "Nellie Bly". Also, "exploits of" makes it possessive.
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 09 Apr 2013, 22:11
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Modifiers refer to the noun immediately preceding it. "a pioneer journalist" correctly refers to "Nellie Bly".


You're correct, "a pioneer journalist" is APPOSITIVE PHRASE that is short phrase, and is used to modify another noun preceding it.
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2013, 00:36
egmat wrote:
Hi @paras123,

This is the sentence with choice C:

Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in her exploits the circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg.

We have a verb-ing modifier “including” here that is modifying the previous noun entity “a pioneer journalist”. Nellie Bly is this pioneer journalist. So “including” is basically modifying Nellie Bly.

Now this modifier does not make sense with the subject “Nellie Bly” here because per this choice, the sentence seems to means that Nellie Bly was a journalist and because of being a journalist she included in her exploits the circling. This is not the intended meaning. It is Bly’s exploits that included the circling. So that should

Also this sentence is not very grammatical. This phrase “the circling the globe” is not grammatical. These are the reasons for this sentence to be incorrect.

Hope this helps.

Thanks.
Shraddha


Why is D wrong? Please clarify.
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 12 Apr 2013, 20:24
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Why is D wrong? Please clarify.


This is an OG question from OG 13th Ed. GMAC's explanation on option D is:
"Since this event clearly happened in the past, the tense of the verb are is wrong. Piling on too many descriptive words for the noun exploits [the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits] makes the phrase unwieldy and awkward."

Also, I found that "included" refers to "pioneer" saying "included in the pioneer". Though the intention is to say "included in the exploits", it didn't happen so because of placing many descriptive words between "included in the" and "exploits".
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2013, 10:53
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egmat wrote:
Hi @paras123,

This is the sentence with choice C:

Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in her exploits the circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg.

We have a verb-ing modifier “including” here that is modifying the previous noun entity “a pioneer journalist”. Nellie Bly is this pioneer journalist. So “including” is basically modifying Nellie Bly.

Now this modifier does not make sense with the subject “Nellie Bly” here because per this choice, the sentence seems to means that Nellie Bly was a journalist and because of being a journalist she included in her exploits the circling. This is not the intended meaning. It is Bly’s exploits that included the circling. So that should

Also this sentence is not very grammatical. This phrase “the circling the globe” is not grammatical. These are the reasons for this sentence to be incorrect.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.
Shraddha


Hi Shraddha
There is a serious bug in my SC understanding and i wish to kill it once and for all.
This bug has again resurfaced in this OG13 question. I would really appreciate if u could help me resolve this problem. So here it is-

A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg

A A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included
B The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included
C Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist, included
D Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits are
E The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly included

B The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included
I marked this answer wrong since i had wrongly interpreted that The exploits of Nellie Bly is a noun modifier, which is incorrectly modifying a pioneer journalist, the noun next to the modifier. I repeatedly do such kinds of mistakes in modifiers. Can you suggest how i can unlearn such misconceptions.
Thanks :)


I am not sure if you were able to kill the bug but still let me try to attempt this in 2 ways:
1) Meaning :
If The exploits of Nellie Bly is a noun modifier , modifying a pioneer journalist then a pioneer journalist is main subject . So is it the a pioneer journalist included circling or The exploits ? It is the exploits of NB included circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg.
2) Grammar and Punctuation :
I feel there is difference between
a. The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included and
b. The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist included
In B The exploits of Nellie Bly could mean what you interpreted .
But a pioneer journalist has comma before and after implying that it is a modifier and not main subject.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 18 Apr 2014, 11:14
Can someone explain the meaning of this sentence with choice B? I feel like there is some ambiguity here. I understand it as follows - is it wrong?

- Nellie Bly did a lot of things and one of the things was the fact that she circle the globe faster than "Jules Verne's fictional Phileas fogg". The part in the apostrophes is a little confusing because I take that as a possessive something?
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Re: A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included [#permalink] New post 26 May 2014, 14:48
macjas wrote:
A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional Phileas Fogg

A A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included
B The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist, included
C Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist, included
D Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's exploits are
E The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly included



The options for above sentence are not clearly written (See option C), mismatched with OG 13. Correct version as below.

A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits included
circling the globe faster than Jules Verne's fictional
Phileas Fogg.
(A) A pioneer journalist, Nellie Bly's exploits
included
(B) The exploits of Nellie Bly, a pioneer journalist,
included
(C) Nellie Bly was a pioneer journalist including in
her exploits the
(D) Included in the pioneer journalist Nellie Bly's
exploits are
(E) The pioneer journalist's exploits of Nellie Bly
included
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