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A recent poll indicates that many people in the United States hold a combination of conservative and liberal political views; i.e., they denounce big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting many specific government programs for health care, education, and the environment.

(A) they denounce the big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting

(B) they denounce big government- they say that government is doing too much and has become too powerful-but supporting at the same time

(C) they denounce big government, say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful, while they support at the same time

(D) while they denounce big government, saying that government is doing too much and has become too powerful, at the same time supporting

(E) while they are denouncing big government- they say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful-supporting at the same time

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Re: [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2014, 22:45
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Denounce and supporting are not parallel here. I think one of the choices is missing..only 4 choices have been mentioned. A doesn't look right.


Let me provide some example..

I listen to music while running on treadmill..
Vs.
I listen to music while I run on treadmill..

Which one do you think is good? I think the first one... its not about parallelism here..
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 27 Feb 2014, 13:49
In option A we have back to back two modifiers do you think such structure is fine.

(A) they denounce big government,
Modifier 1 : saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful,
Modifier 2 : while at the same time supporting

Clause, ing modifier 1 , ing modifier 2 << is it ok ??
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2014, 14:55
Parallelism- They denounce saying…supporting. A better than C, why? Because supporting is needed to explain the previous clause. We don't want 'denounce' and 'say' to be parallel. We want saying to modify denounce and be parallel with supporting. That's the reason why A iis a much better answer choice

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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2014, 22:59
I think it is more about meaning rather than parallelism and modifier...The while usage is incorrect and alters the meaning incorrectly...So A is the best choice...
And now we should look for parallelism and stuff to support the answer..
Had there been an 'And' Instead of 'While'..I guess both options would be correct..(Given that the other errors in C are removed)
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2014, 11:54
Paralelism:
They denounce big government, sayING...While at the same time suportING

It seams wrong, what have I missed?
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Paralelism:
They denounce big government, sayING...While at the same time suportING

It seams wrong, what have I missed?


Hi,

Take simple sentence.

I washed my clothes, while talking on the phone.

lets make it complex.

I washed my clothes, using new washing machine, while talking on the phone.

Now compare above sentence with :
they denounce big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting ...
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2014, 03:47
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plaverbach wrote:
Paralelism:
They denounce big government, sayING...While at the same time suportING

It seams wrong, what have I missed?


Hi,

Take simple sentence.

I washed my clothes, while talking on the phone.

lets make it complex.

I washed my clothes, using new washing machine, while talking on the phone.

Now compare above sentence with :
they denounce big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting ...

I don't understand which option you think is best. For me it's C:
"they denounce big government...., while they support at the same time"....
And I think that's correct.
Is there a problem here?
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2014, 04:54
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PiyushK wrote:
plaverbach wrote:
Paralelism:
They denounce big government, sayING...While at the same time suportING

It seams wrong, what have I missed?


Hi,

Take simple sentence.

I washed my clothes, while talking on the phone.

lets make it complex.

I washed my clothes, using new washing machine, while talking on the phone.

Now compare above sentence with :
they denounce big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting ...

I don't understand which option you think is best. For me it's C:
"they denounce big government...., while they support at the same time"....
And I think that's correct.
Is there a problem here?


(C) they denounce big government, say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful, while they support at the same time

Describe the relation between highlighted parts. Can we write sentence as written above ?
Whats the role of "say" is it verb or modifier?
if verb, is it in a list ? if yes in list, then which is the last element of that list? if "say that ...." is last element of the list then where is the conjunction ?
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2014, 05:07
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I don't understand which option you think is best. For me it's C:
"they denounce big government...., while they support at the same time"....
And I think that's correct.
Is there a problem here?

With C, the sentence would be:

A recent poll indicates that many people in the United States hold a combination of conservative and liberal political views; i.e., they denounce big government, say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful, while they support at the same time many specific government programs for health care, education, and the environment.

Since you mention that C's structure is:

they denounce big government...., while they support at the same time....

Let's look at the first part of this structure: they denounce big government....

Let's expand this part in C:

they denounce big government, say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful

This is clearly a list and since you mention they denounce big government...., I believe you are interpreting this portion as a list comprising three elements. So, let us deconstruct this portion of the sentence:

they X, Y and Z, where:

X: denounce big government,
Y: say that government is doing too much
Z: it has become too powerful

There are two ways in which it can be seen that this structure is incorrect:

One way: According to parallelism, phrases and clauses are not considered parallel to each other. So, all the elements comprising a list (X, Y and Z in the above case) should be either clauses or phrases. However, here while X and Y are phrases, Z is a clause. Hence, they are not parallel.

Second way: After doing the deconstruct, the portion of the sentence that is outside the XYZ deconstruct (in this case they) is clearly common to X, to Y and to Z. So, this common portion should individually make sense with X, with Y and with Z. Let us see if the common portion (they) make sense with X, with Y and with Z:

i) They denounce big government - Makes sense
ii) They say that government is doing too much - Makes sense
iii) They it has become too powerful - Clearly doesn't make sense

Hence, this structure is not correct. In fact, even if you try to do the XYZ deconstruct in any other way, it will not make sense.

Hence, C is incorrect.

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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 24 Sep 2014, 19:43
Yea A has the problem.

They denounce...., while (they) support
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 24 Nov 2014, 08:19
Parallelism is missing in A . 'Denounce' can't be parallel with 'supporting'. experts plz comment
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2014, 20:27
A recent poll indicates that many people in the United States hold a combination of conservative and liberal political views; i.e., they denounce big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting many specific government programs for health care, education, and the environment.

(A) they denounce the big government, saying government is doing too much and has become too powerful, while at the same time supporting

(B) they denounce big government- they say that government is doing too much and has become too powerful-but supporting at the same time

(C) they denounce big government, say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful, while they support at the same time

(D) while they denounce big government, saying that government is doing too much and has become too powerful, at the same time supporting

(E) while they are denouncing big government- they say that government is doing too much and it has become too powerful-supporting at the same time



Not sure why the answer is A as there is lack of parallelism in it. "While" is used to contrast the view and hence parallelism is must. Though no other option look correct, I would go for C. C is parallel and the only issue with C is the user of "say that" which would have been better if it was "saying", yet V4 and V1 + that are interchangable in many cases, so I would go for C.

Please let me know your opinion on the explanation.


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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 22 Dec 2014, 06:49
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Yes one more for A based on Parallelism of the verbs in the sentence



How's denounce and supporting paralled ? Kindly clarify
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 22 Dec 2014, 08:28
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How's denounce and supporting paralled ? Kindly clarify

You are right. They are not parallel, and actually don't need to be. Perhaps it's best to be comfortable with this usage of while. For example: I had a bad dream while sleeping.

Couple of officially correct examples that illustrate this:

Recently implemented "shift-work equations" based on studies of the human sleep cycle have reduced sickness, sleeping on the job, and fatigue among shift workers while raising production efficiency in various industries.

Joachim Raffand Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living......
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paandey wrote:
How's denounce and supporting paralled ? Kindly clarify

You are right. They are not parallel, and actually don't need to be. Perhaps it's best to be comfortable with this usage of while. For example: I had a bad dream while sleeping.

Couple of officially correct examples that illustrate this:

Recently implemented "shift-work equations" based on studies of the human sleep cycle have reduced sickness, sleeping on the job, and fatigue among shift workers while raising production efficiency in various industries.

Joachim Raffand Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living......



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Thanks for clarifying the use of While. While is one of those terms that always create confusion.
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Re: A recent poll indicates that many people in the United [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2014, 12:05
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paandey wrote:
How's denounce and supporting paralled ? Kindly clarify

You are right. They are not parallel, and actually don't need to be. Perhaps it's best to be comfortable with this usage of while. For example: I had a bad dream while sleeping.

Couple of officially correct examples that illustrate this:

Recently implemented "shift-work equations" based on studies of the human sleep cycle have reduced sickness, sleeping on the job, and fatigue among shift workers while raising production efficiency in various industries.

Joachim Raffand Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living......



Thanks a lot man ! That certainly clears few doubts.
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