Find all School-related info fast with the new School-Specific MBA Forum

It is currently 26 Sep 2016, 19:18
GMAT Club Tests

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:

Hide Tags

1 KUDOS received
Director
Director
avatar
Joined: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 567
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 46 [1] , given: 0

A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 02 Sep 2007, 16:49
1
This post received
KUDOS
3
This post was
BOOKMARKED
00:00
A
B
C
D
E

Difficulty:

  5% (low)

Question Stats:

85% (01:44) correct 15% (00:50) wrong based on 536 sessions

HideShow timer Statistics

26. A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed.
(A) A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that
(B) So secret was a recording system installation and operation in the Kennedy Oval Office
(C) It was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(D) A recording system that was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(E) Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that

Why can not it be E
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

Last edited by fameatop on 28 Aug 2013, 20:53, edited 1 time in total.
OA not Provided
Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 148
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 94 [0], given: 0

Re: SECRETELY_installed [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 02 Sep 2007, 17:00
IrinaOK wrote:
26. A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed.
(A) A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that
(B) So secret was a recording system installation and operation in the Kennedy Oval Office
(C) It was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(D) A recording system that was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(E) Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that

Why can not it be E


b/w A and E.
E is out. it sounds awkward.
"E awkwardly inverts the order of the subject and predicate in the
main clause and thus cannot be logically connected to the remainder of the sentence."
Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 16 May 2007
Posts: 145
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 18 [0], given: 0

 [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 02 Sep 2007, 21:08
Has to be A as E is passive.

Active voice is preferred over passive.
Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 213
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 9 [0], given: 0

 [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 02 Sep 2007, 22:53
I too agree with A.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
User avatar
Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Posts: 5062
Location: Singapore
Followers: 30

Kudos [?]: 329 [0], given: 0

 [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 02 Sep 2007, 23:14
(A) A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that
(B) awkward
(C) 'It' has no clear reference
(D) awkward
(E) Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that

Between A and E, go with A. (I think 'E' is passive construction, not preferred)
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Posts: 44
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 12 [0], given: 0

GMAT ToolKit User
Re: SECRETELY_installed [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 27 Jun 2010, 00:53
Can somebody throw some light on usage of "so secretly". What kind of usage is that? When is so used?

Also this thread should be moved to SC since it is not a CR question.
SVP
SVP
avatar
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
Posts: 1558
Followers: 18

Kudos [?]: 514 [0], given: 6

Re: SECRETELY_installed [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 29 Jun 2010, 19:50
The idiom is so X that Y.

only A fits the bill.
7 KUDOS received
Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 25 May 2010
Posts: 142
Followers: 123

Kudos [?]: 666 [7] , given: 0

Re: SECRETELY_installed [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 30 Jun 2010, 01:20
7
This post received
KUDOS
2
This post was
BOOKMARKED
You absolutely right seekmba. This question tests you on 'so' idioms, which are frequently tested on the SC!


The 'so' idiom that is in play here is

so+adjective/adverb+that+clause (subject + verb) --> expresses cause and result!


Example: He was so hungry that he stopped at Burger King. / They ran so fast that they were out of breath by the time they got there.

Note: You can start with the descriptive word too! Ex: So hungry was he that he stopped....

Other 'so' idioms that the SC likes to mess with:

so that --> meaning "in order to"
Ex.I must practice so that I will be prepared for the competition.

not so... as --> inequality comparison
Ex. Tom is not so tall as Joe.

so+adjective1..... as to (be + adjective2)
Ex. The politician's statement was so vague as to be ambiguous.
NOTE! This idiom does NOT express cause and result! It is used to STRENGTHEN A DESCRIPTION.
Incorrect: I must practice so as to be prepared for the competition.

In other words, DON'T MIX UP THESE IDIOMS! THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE


(Many more important idioms are discussed in SC Lessons 9 and 10 at gmaxonline!)

Best,
Sarai
_________________

Sarai
GMAT Verbal Instructor at http://www.linkedin.com/company/ofek-gmat/online-gmat-tutoring-22305743/product?trk=biz_product
Email me at saraiyaseen@gmail.com

If this helped, kindly give Kudos! :wink:

VP
VP
avatar
Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 1336
Followers: 3

Kudos [?]: 100 [0], given: 772

Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 12 Jun 2012, 08:18
this is gmatprep question, so I can search on the internet and see many postings. No posting explains the wrongness of E proplerly.

Is E wrong because we can not use inverted clause with another clause. ?

experts. please, explain fullly why E is wrong?

Thank you
Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 12 Mar 2012
Posts: 172
Location: India
Concentration: Technology, General Management
GMAT Date: 07-23-2012
WE: Programming (Telecommunications)
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 45 [0], given: 4

Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 12 Jun 2012, 09:21
E simply sounds awkward to me, hence marked A.
_________________

FOCUS..this is all I need!

Ku-Do!

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 11 Dec 2012
Posts: 34
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 59

GMAT ToolKit User
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 28 Aug 2013, 02:36
The answer is 'A' 'it' refers to 'A recording system'
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 08 Apr 2013
Posts: 295
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 20 [0], given: 27

Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 28 Aug 2013, 20:45
IrinaOK wrote:
26. A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed.
(A) A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that
(B) So secret was a recording system installation and operation in the Kennedy Oval Office
(C) It was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(D) A recording system that was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(E) Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that

Why can not it be E


OG explanation is not good, if I do not want to say that the og explanation is zero.

we, students, and even gmat experts have to infer the gmat thinking.

why E is wrong?
there are many pattern in English which is CORRECT BUT NOT PREFERED. This point leads to situation in which a pattern is eliminated but this pattern appear in oa in other sc problem.

between "so....that" there must be adverb

adverb " secretely" should touch "installed, operated" and "in the office"

we can not insert " the recording system" between "so" and "that".

That is my attempt to explain the problem. but, to be honest, in the test room, I can not infer the above thing.
_________________

If anyone in this gmat forum is in England,Britain, pls, email to me, (thanghnvn@gmail.com) . I have some questions and need your advise. Thank a lot.

Manager
Manager
avatar
Status: Persevering
Joined: 15 May 2013
Posts: 225
Location: India
Concentration: Technology, Leadership
GMAT Date: 08-02-2013
GPA: 3.7
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 81 [0], given: 34

GMAT ToolKit User
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 03 Sep 2013, 10:53
vietmoi999 wrote:
IrinaOK wrote:
26. A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed.
(A) A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office that
(B) So secret was a recording system installation and operation in the Kennedy Oval Office
(C) It was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(D) A recording system that was so secretly installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office
(E) Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that

Why can not it be E


OG explanation is not good, if I do not want to say that the og explanation is zero.

we, students, and even gmat experts have to infer the gmat thinking.

why E is wrong?
there are many pattern in English which is CORRECT BUT NOT PREFERED. This point leads to situation in which a pattern is eliminated but this pattern appear in oa in other sc problem.

between "so....that" there must be adverb

adverb " secretely" should touch "installed, operated" and "in the office"

we can not insert " the recording system" between "so" and "that".

That is my attempt to explain the problem. but, to be honest, in the test room, I can not infer the above thing.


Maybe its just me, but that in e seems to be modifying recording system and not the secretive nature of its operation and installation.

Also read this part and you can see the error.

recording system that even [...] did not know it existed .what's it doing here.

or
recording system that even x did not know existed

Also A is using correct idiomatic expression so x that y.

Hope i have put some light around it :-)
_________________

--It's one thing to get defeated, but another to accept it.

Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 11 Aug 2011
Posts: 196
Location: United States
Concentration: Economics, Finance
GMAT Date: 10-16-2013
GPA: 3
WE: Analyst (Computer Software)
Followers: 9

Kudos [?]: 181 [0], given: 886

Reviews Badge
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 25 Dec 2013, 05:20
Hi,
Can anyone explain why e is incorrect.
I understand that it is in the form of an inverted expression but that too can be acceptable.
I am not able to get a convincing answer even after searching a lot on google as to why E is incorrect.
_________________

Kudos me if you like my post !!!!

Expert Post
4 KUDOS received
e-GMAT Representative
User avatar
Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Posts: 1987
Followers: 1980

Kudos [?]: 6589 [4] , given: 260

Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 02 Jan 2014, 07:24
4
This post received
KUDOS
Expert's post
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Hi Akhil,

The so + that combination is used to show cause and effect. 'So' is followed by an adjective or adverb that is the cause of an action, and 'that' is followed by the result. E.g. She was so tired that she went to bed.

Option E says "Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that". Here, the cause and effect relationship is very ambiguous, because the part after 'so' is not immediately followed by the part with 'that'.

Also, note that in option E, 'that' is a relative pronoun: it refers to the noun before it, "recording system," and the meaning doesn't make any sense. In option A, 'that' correctly connects the effect to the cause. ('In the Kennedy Oval Office' is a modifier that can be removed without affecting the grammar of the sentence.)

I hope this helps!

Regards,
Meghna
_________________












| '4 out of Top 5' Instructors on gmatclub | 70 point improvement guarantee | www.e-gmat.com

Current Student
avatar
Joined: 03 Aug 2012
Posts: 916
Concentration: General Management, General Management
GMAT 1: 630 Q47 V29
GMAT 2: 680 Q50 V32
GPA: 3.7
WE: Information Technology (Investment Banking)
Followers: 22

Kudos [?]: 627 [0], given: 322

Premium Member
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 21 Jun 2014, 02:40
The OE in question pack says that

In Option(C) pronoun reference is ambiguous.

However, I do not see any pronoun ambiguity in that option as the case with option(A).

Can anyone highlight the pronoun ambiguity in option (C).
_________________

Rgds,
TGC!
_____________________________________________________________________
I Assisted You => KUDOS Please
_____________________________________________________________________________

Current Student
User avatar
Status: Everyone is a leader. Just stop listening to others.
Joined: 22 Mar 2013
Posts: 992
Location: India
GPA: 3.51
WE: Information Technology (Computer Software)
Followers: 161

Kudos [?]: 1320 [0], given: 226

Premium Member Reviews Badge
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 21 Jun 2014, 09:12
(C) It was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office

In option C, reference of pronoun it is not clear.
It is not a place holder. it is interrupted by idiom so... that therefore that clause can not replace it.

If I say it= Plan
Plan was so secret that a recording system was installed and operated in the Kennedy Oval Office (Plan make sense)

But we can not infer exactly what should be the antecedent of It.
_________________

Piyush K
-----------------------
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is to try just one more time. ― Thomas A. Edison
Don't forget to press--> Kudos :)
My Articles: 1. WOULD: when to use? | 2. All GMATPrep RCs (New)
Tip: Before exam a week earlier don't forget to exhaust all gmatprep problems specially for "sentence correction".

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 28 Apr 2014
Posts: 291
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 33 [0], given: 46

GMAT ToolKit User
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 04 Aug 2014, 23:41
seekmba wrote:
The idiom is so X that Y.

only A fits the bill.

Even E is fitting this so not sure if this could be the sole reason for selecting A
Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 23 Nov 2014
Posts: 2
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 2

A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 24 Dec 2014, 22:46
akhil911 wrote:
Hi,
Can anyone explain why e is incorrect.
I understand that it is in the form of an inverted expression but that too can be acceptable.
I am not able to get a convincing answer even after searching a lot on google as to why E is incorrect.


If you are not sure about an inverted sentence, just flip it.

E:
Installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office was a recording system that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed.

Flip it:
A recording system that even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed was installed and operated so secretly in the Kennedy Oval Office.

The flipped version definetely changes the intended meaning.

The original sentence use "so ... that ...." idiom, putting emphasis on "intstalled and operated secretly" and surprizing us with "even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed"

The flipped version uses "even Theodore C. Sorensen, the White House counsel, did not know it existed" just to modify "a recording system"

That is why E is wrong.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
User avatar
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 9802
Followers: 838

Kudos [?]: 173 [0], given: 0

Premium Member
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 10 May 2016, 10:07
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
Re: A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in   [#permalink] 10 May 2016, 10:07

Go to page    1   2    Next  [ 21 posts ] 

    Similar topics Author Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
Just as the free computer operating system Countdown 0 10 Aug 2013, 09:35
1 The city council has installed alarm systems in some of the agdimple333 5 07 Jul 2011, 13:43
The product was so secretly researched and tested in cano 2 22 May 2010, 06:05
A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in japped187 0 07 Mar 2008, 01:07
3 In the mid-l 960's a newly installed radar warning system Amit05 5 03 Oct 2007, 12:17
Display posts from previous: Sort by

A recording system was so secretly installed and operated in

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group and phpBB SEO

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.