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A representative of the Internal Revenue Service usually finds most people are willing to cooperate during an audit, yet they become agitated, defensive, and suspect computer error.

A - most people are willing to cooperate during an audit, yet they become agitated, defensive, and suspect
B - most people to be willingly cooperative during an audit, and they are also agitated, defensive, and they suspect
C - that most people are willing to cooperate during an audit, yet they become agitated, defensive, and suspicious of
D - that people are mostly willing to cooperate during an audit, and they become agitated, defensive, and suspicious of
E - that most people are willingly cooperative during an audit, yet they are becoming agitated, defensive, and suspect

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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 08:23
That's right - find that is idiomatic. All gmat thinking words are followed by "that"

I pick C for idiom and ||ism.

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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 08:26
The answer is C, yet is required to show contrast and suspicious of to show parallelism.
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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 08:46
What do you mean by "thinking verb"? How do you identify them? Is the list for "thinking verbs" fixed?

I am kind of stumped with you saying of find of a thinking verb. I don't THINK while FINDING anything. Please bear my ignorance :shock: .

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That's right - find that is idiomatic. All gmat thinking words are followed by "that"

I pick C for idiom and ||ism.

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Need to know if "find that" is really considered a factor to discard any GMAT option.

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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 09:29
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In a reported fact like this, it is necessary to introduce what is reported by a connector ‘that. This is a GMAT norm and hence A and B are out. We need to keep the contrast by using a contrast conjunction such as ‘yet’. D faults on that. C maintains list //ism by using three adjectives - agitated, defensive, and suspicious – E breaks this tenet by using a verb for the third arm and clumsily uses progressive tense for a general phenomenon.

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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 09:42
Thinking words indicate some "sort" of mental process, such as find, believe, belief, idea, theory, notion, concept etc. GMAT typically likes to follow these words with "that"

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What do you mean by "thinking verb"? How do you identify them? Is the list for "thinking verbs" fixed?

I am kind of stumped with you saying of find of a thinking verb. I don't THINK while FINDING anything. Please bear my ignorance :shock: .
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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 09:52
gmat1220 wrote:
Thinking words indicate some "sort" of mental process, such as find, believe, belief, idea, theory, notion, concept etc. GMAT typically likes to follow these words with "that"

joshnsit wrote:
What do you mean by "thinking verb"? How do you identify them? Is the list for "thinking verbs" fixed?

I am kind of stumped with you saying of find of a thinking verb. I don't THINK while FINDING anything. Please bear my ignorance :shock: .


Can you quote the source? and applicability of so called "thinking verb" in a sentence?

As per your point, should the first sentence be wrong?
1) I find mass killing of people bad.
2) I find that masss killing of people is bad.
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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 10:20
Sorry don't remember the source. But I copied it. The concept works flawlessly if you want to split on "that" vs no that

joshnsit wrote:
Can you quote the source? and applicability of so called "thinking verb" in a sentence?

As per your point, should the first sentence be wrong?
1) I find mass killing of people bad.This is wrong
2) I find that masss killing of people is bad.
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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2 [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 12:35
@gmat1220
Let's put up this way.
You find me. --Correct as per myself even without THAT (Please let me know if this seems wrong to you)
You find me bad. --- Not Sure (As per you in last comment, this sentence construction is wrong. I thought that this was correct. I might be wrong. So, keeping this sentence structure out of consideration. Would ask GMAT gurus to confirm and comment on this sentence)
You find that I am bad. -- Correct as per myself (I think we both agree THAT this is correct :P )

Analysis:::> If the verb is directly pointing to the object, then you don't need a THAT. If the verb is pointing to an attribute or quality or phenomenom related to the object(in the form of a full fledged clause), then you need a THAT.

gmat1220 wrote:
Sorry don't remember the source. But I copied it. The concept works flawlessly if you want to split on "that" vs no that

joshnsit wrote:
Can you quote the source? and applicability of so called "thinking verb" in a sentence?

As per your point, should the first sentence be wrong?
1) I find mass killing of people bad.This is wrong
2) I find that masss killing of people is bad.

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Fire the final bullet only when you are constantly hitting the Bull's eye, till then KEEP PRACTICING.
Failure establishes only this, that our determination to succeed was not strong enough.
Getting defeated is just a temporary notion, giving it up is what makes it permanent.

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Re: PR Verbal Workout SC #2   [#permalink] 12 Mar 2011, 12:35
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