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31..A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass
(A) A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(C) After passing through a red giant stage, a star’s mass will determine if it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(E) The mass of a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will determine whether it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
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 [#permalink] New post 24 May 2005, 16:39
B

A -> depending on mass modifies the star's compression into a..., so it is better placed closer to star
C -> misplaced modifier
D -> Changes the intended meaning. It seems like "the mass" passed thru the red giant stage
E -> The same as above
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Re: SC-Black hole [#permalink] New post 24 May 2005, 16:51
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
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Re: SC-Black hole [#permalink] New post 24 May 2005, 23:43
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31..A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass
(A) A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(C) After passing through a red giant stage, a star’s mass will determine if it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(E) The mass of a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will determine whether it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.


I'll pick D.
A. It sounds like the passing through a red giant stage depends on mass.
B. Sounds as, depending on the red giant stage's mass.
C. it doesn't have a correct referent ie. star.
D. Sounds fine.
E. Sounds as if the mass is passing though the red giant stage.
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 [#permalink] New post 25 May 2005, 01:48
D)

IMO B) is out because it is unclear what "depending on its mass" modifies. "star" or "a red gian stage". it should modify "star" !
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 [#permalink] New post 26 May 2005, 06:18
(D) because 'after passing THE red-giant stage' sounds more appropriate.

In the other sentences, 'A red-giant stage' is being used, which, to me, does not sound correct.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 May 2005, 09:51
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B...


I vote for B.

I choose to explain why D isn't right.

"Mass determines whether a star", now mass cannot exist on it's own. ( is it the stars mass it is referring to)
Also, as it passes "the stage" , is it a particular stage we are referring to.

Although the second reason, is something i noticed on hindsight.

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Re: SC-Black hole [#permalink] New post 26 May 2005, 10:21
perezhan wrote:
31..A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.


B is wrong. "its mass" means "a red giant stage's mass", this sounds completely wrong for me.

D placed modifier properly.
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Re: SC-Black hole [#permalink] New post 30 May 2005, 11:52
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31..A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.


B is wrong. "its mass" means "a red giant stage's mass", this sounds completely wrong for me.

D placed modifier properly.


Not necessarily. For those of you who think "B" is wrong because the pronoun antecedes the noun it is supposed to refer check this post:

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2287

Bottomline: Pronoun can antecede the noun it is supposed to refer to.

For those of you who also think "B" is wrong because a "appositive" or relative clause or another prepositional phrase appears between the introductory modifier and the noun it is supposed to modify check this out:

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=108540

Perez what is the OA? Please post OA and OE?

I voted for B although i dont know what is wrong with "D".
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2005, 17:09
Vote for B.
A. "it" is ambiguous
B. Correct answer
C. star's mass can pass through the red stage
D. Mass cannot do any determining.
E. similar problem as C
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 [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2005, 07:36
Howmanytogo and Ashkg good reasoning on why D is wrong.

Okay now only if we could get the OA?

Perez, how about the OA?
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2005, 19:04
Because B creates ambiguity in terms of pronoun reference, pick D. The link given by gmataquaguy does support the contention that a pronoun can antecede the noun but in that example, it was clear that "its" could not refer to:
1- animate object: analysts
2- plural form
Hence, "its" HAD to refer to "THE proposal"

Because of this ambiguity, in which "its" could very well refer to "red giant stage", eliminate B
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2005, 21:12
(A) A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
- 'it' does not have clear precedent. Would naturally stick to black hole. A is out.

(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
- suggest mass comes from the red giant stage

(C) After passing through a red giant stage, a star’s mass will determine if it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
- out. suggest red giant stage is compressing itself into a star

(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

(E) The mass of a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will determine whether it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
- out. suggests mass is passing through red giant stage

I'll go with D
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Jun 2005, 04:37
hmm, seems like i am improving my SC. I can now reconstruct ETS' crazy options to determine the best choice rather than read the options first before i choose my ans.

Anyway, I got the OA to this. It's (D).
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If (B) had read...

After passing through a red giant stage, a star, depending on its mass, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

...then we would have had two correct sentences.

IMO, the modifying clause (or whatever it's called), 'depending on its mass' is not appropriately placed in (B). Paul, Mr Cat :) , what do you guys think?
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Re: SC-Black hole [#permalink] New post 10 Jun 2005, 17:20
perezhan wrote:
31..A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass
(A) A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(C) After passing through a red giant stage, a star’s mass will determine if it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(E) The mass of a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will determine whether it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.


Since the discussion is between B&D...will compare the two...
In B...its not clear whether the phenomenon is dependent on the red giant's mass or the star's mass...
hence i'd pick D
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Jun 2005, 19:37
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hmm, seems like i am improving my SC. I can now reconstruct ETS' crazy options to determine the best choice rather than read the options first before i choose my ans.

Anyway, I got the OA to this. It's (D).
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If (B) had read...

After passing through a red giant stage, a star, depending on its mass, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

...then we would have had two correct sentences.

IMO, the modifying clause (or whatever it's called), 'depending on its mass' is not appropriately placed in (B). Paul, Mr Cat :) , what do you guys think?

Obviously, we would then have had 2 possible answers. In your example, the appositive is placed right after "star" and it is clear that "its" would then refer to the right noun.
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