Perhaps it is already too late, but I would not have put any emotional pressure on her to join you in Chicago. The reality of our times is that we don't forget the choices we had or sacrifices we made: the football game I missed, all the men I could have married etc. Dude, Chicago is seriously awesome school to let go and shouldn't any relation worth keeping for lifetime be strong enough to take a 2 year's long distance? We aren't teenagers anymore, right.
theDreamChaser
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:34 pm
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Perhaps it is already too late, but I would not have put any emotional pressure on her to join you in Chicago. The reality of our times is that we don't forget the choices we had or sacrifices we made: the football game I missed, all the men I could have married etc. Dude, Chicago is seriously awesome school to let go and shouldn't any relation worth keeping for lifetime be strong enough to take a 2 year's long distance? We aren't teenagers anymore, right.
totally agree! I am about to go into the same situation. Despite being not married and relatively young, I am still fully committed to my relationship and will try my best to make the LDR work. It does mean making compromises such as putting relationship first when going through stressful time in school, making the across country visits, and putting a strain on where you gonna find a job after b-school. You can't get all you want in life, and I have decided relationship is what ultimately makes me happy in the long-term, so I am fully prepared to deal with whatever LDR brings. LDR does put relationship into test, but it really depends on the couple to make it work or not. At this point, you guys probably should stay on the positive side and think about ways to make it work. Also remember, re-applying to S/W doesn't guarantee anything...especially when S is trending younger year by year....
Just to give another perspective, this wasn't my experience at all. I got every single class I ever bid on and precisely the series of courses I wanted. That said, it IS stressful.
To be fair however, I spent a RIDICULOUS amount of time building an excel model to identify the best strategies, downloaded all bid data, learned how to arb the system (which you can no longer do sadly), looked at prior years, etc. It was my experience that those people who waited to the last minute or just sort of guessed what to bid without doing much research are the ones who found themselves frustrated. I'm not saying that's what your husband did (things may have changed), but if he hasn't tried really really sitting down with the data and looking at trends, considering variables etc, he should, because it can absolutely pay off. For instance, a huge driver that people always ignore is the total number of sections being taught by a given professor. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people put in ridiculously high bids because "last year" the class was expensive, ignoring that last year the class was taught one times instead of three, and friday morning instead of say afternoons. People also ignore who ELSE was teaching when the 'high' bids came in in prior years -- for instance, if you had both Meadow and Kaplan teaching in the same quarter, thats going to give a very different end result than if only one is teaching (and the other is some no name prof). The other thing to look at is what other classes people are likely to want to combine with your top choice courses in that given quarter -- for instance, if you see that there's an accounting class in the morning and the afternoon on Tuesdays, and an investment class only on Tuesday afternoon, odds are, the accounting morning class will go for more than the afternoon course (which you wouldn't otherwise generally expect). .
Ah, trying to beat the bid system! Oh, my husband spent/spends countless hours looking at past year's points, evaluating the current schedule, etc, but I think he is generally too conservative in his bidding . I think he'll eventually get the hang of it, though, and his schedule/class load for both terms has been fine so far. More than just saying that the bid system was stressful, I was trying to say that dealing with the bid system PLUS trying to get all of the classes you want/need in three days was not going to be easy. I'm sure it's possible, but I do think the system is stressful enough as it is!
I'm glad it worked for you, though...it gives me hope that my husband will be able to figure it out before he graduates .
dcdevil
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So as Round 1 comes to a close I'm finding myself frustrated. I was admitted to Chicago (a great fit for me personally) and dinged at Stanford/Wharton. The problem is my wife is refusing to leave her job to move out to Chicago, which she equates to committing "career suicide". S/W would have worked well for her because at S we could have just stayed here in the Silicon Valley, and at W she could've transferred within her company to Philly. She works for a major defense company and they have agreed to pay for her to do a PT MBA, which is an amazing opportunity.
My problem with the whole situation is that we both want kids, and she seems to agree that she would need to stay home to raise them. So I'm having trouble rationalizing why I should slam the brakes on this opportunity at Chicago if in the next three or four years we're likely to be starting a family and her career will be taking a break anyway. So what am I supposed to do? Move out to Chicago and try to do a long distance marriage for 2 yrs? Or do I abandon the opportunity altogether even though it is something I've wanted and worked towards for a long time?
In any case, it sucks that after getting accepted at one of the best business schools in the world my wife's first reaction was "that sucks. i'm not moving there." It also didn't help that she blames me for getting dinged at S/W, as if I somehow didn't "try hard enough."
Anyone else out there facing a similar situation?
I am in a very similar situation--well, slightly different because it is my HUSBAND who wont move(and we have 2 children). Rightfully so, he is a very very specific field and is pretty much only employable in a handful of areas not near any of the place I was interested in going to school. I am frustrated because we had discussed all this before I even applied and he had agreed to move anywhere. I think it is much easier for people to discuss this in theory and say it will be OK than when it actually happens...
edark
Re: A totally non-PC question for married/committed couples [#permalink]
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:09 pm
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I am in a very similar situation--well, slightly different because it is my HUSBAND who wont move(and we have 2 children). Rightfully so, he is a very very specific field and is pretty much only employable in a handful of areas not near any of the place I was interested in going to school. I am frustrated because we had discussed all this before I even applied and he had agreed to move anywhere. I think it is much easier for people to discuss this in theory and say it will be OK than when it actually happens...
Have you already applied and been accepted somewhere? It's really hard to do this as a partner when you move willingly....unwillingly, it's extra tough (there are a handful of partners here who didn't want to come). It seems very unusual for the partners to be husbands...I have only met two since we've been to Chicago, and one is in a different program at the school and one is a pilot. However, there is SOOO much support for students/partners who are parents. Good luck...it's a tough decision/commitment.
hypermeganet
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The other option is to just forgo Chicago and go a school that works for your wife and her career. She is your wife, you know. Wife > any school - at least in my book. Asking her to move to a situation that destroys her career is not an option, right? So, think long and hard about whether you feel your marriage is strong enough to withstand a 2 year strain. Applying to Haas or some other school (NYU/Columbia/Georgetown and commuting to Philly so she can work at Boeing) might be explored so you at least have the option.
And kudos to the person saying that this board is definitely not the right place to be asking for this advice. There's a chance your marriage (based on what you've intimated) isn't as strong as one might need to be to handle the extreme stress of a LTR and random people on the 'net, myself included, really aren't equipped to give you any real advice.
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