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ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose sides are all congruent. BCEF is a rhombus and shares a common side with the quadrilateral ABCD. The area of which one is greater: ABCD or BCEF ?

(1) ABCD is a square.
(2) BCEF is not a square.
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Re: Area of which is greater ?? [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2010, 10:30
Let's do it step by step.

1. How are ABCD and BCEF connected? There is only a common side BC. All other tree sides of ABCD can be of any size and the area of ABCD can be (0, inf). BCEF is a rhombus and its area can be (0, BC^2] (BC^2 included).

2. Statement 1. In other words, area of ABCD is BC^2 that can be greater or equal to the area of BCEF (0, BC^2]

3. Statement 2. So, area of BCEF can't be BC^2 and we have (0, BC^2) possible range for the area. it's still not enough as the area ABCD can be (0, inf)

4. Statements 1&2. The area of ABCD is BC^2 and the area of BCEF can be (0, BC^2) or always lesser than the area of ABCD. Sufficient.

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Re: Area of which is greater ?? [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2010, 03:02
nice one...agree with C
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Re: Area of which is greater ?? [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2010, 06:27
Yep, get it now! thanks!
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Re: ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2012, 05:04
Hi

Iam new to GMAT club and was going through this problem.I think A should be the answer to this problem.Logic given below.

1.Statement 1 says ABCD is a square. Now for all quadrilaterals with given perimeter square has the greatest area .Perimeter of square ABCD and BCEF =4a where a=length of one side.(Square and rhombus share a common side ,so lenght of side of Rhombus is also a).So applying the above property area of square greater than rhombus.

2.) Statement 2 says that BCEF is not a square, doesnt provide any useful infromation.Hence clearly not sufficient.


Please let me know your thoughts on this.
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Re: ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose [#permalink] New post 02 Apr 2012, 22:15
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ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose sides are all congruent. BCEF is a rhombus and shares a common side with the quadrilateral ABCD. The area of which one is greater: ABCD or BCEF ?

(1) ABCD is a square.
(2) BCEF is not a square.



Hi All,

I am having difficulty in understanding the proble,

1. ABCD is a square....As per defination Rhombus also has the same side. I am confused on how to tell the diagonal lengths with the help of sides of a rhombus. I think this is not sufficient.

2. BCEF not a square, no info about ABCD..hence not sufficient.

Together..we know ABCD is a square and BECF is not, but it is still rhombus...hence it is not sufficient together too...so E

Can any expert help us understand this
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Re: ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose [#permalink] New post 04 Jul 2012, 06:48
harshavmrg wrote:
burp wrote:
ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose sides are all congruent. BCEF is a rhombus and shares a common side with the quadrilateral ABCD. The area of which one is greater: ABCD or BCEF ?

(1) ABCD is a square.
(2) BCEF is not a square.



Hi All,

I am having difficulty in understanding the proble,

1. ABCD is a square....As per defination Rhombus also has the same side. I am confused on how to tell the diagonal lengths with the help of sides of a rhombus. I think this is not sufficient.

2. BCEF not a square, no info about ABCD..hence not sufficient.

Together..we know ABCD is a square and BECF is not, but it is still rhombus...hence it is not sufficient together too...so E

Can any expert help us understand this


Dear Harsh,

Q. is : ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose sides are all congruent. BCEF is a rhombus and shares a common side with the quadrilateral ABCD. The area of which one is greater: ABCD or BCEF ?

(1) ABCD is a square.
(2) BCEF is not a square.

This question can be very easily solved with a property of a quadilateral:-
A square has a larger area than any other quadrilateral with the same perimeter
Now for (1) ABCD is a square, but we know nothing about BCEF. Another property is
If the diagonals of a rhombus are equal, then that rhombus must be a square. Now as we see,
we only know that BCEF is a Rhombus, we know nothing about the angle. Hence (1) insufficient.
(2) Insufficient
(1) + (2), here we get that BCEF is not a square, hence clearly Area ABCD > Area BCEF Sufficient
Hence C
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Re: ABCD is a quadrilateral. A rhombus is a quadrilateral whose [#permalink] New post 05 Jul 2012, 13:52
+1 C

The square, given a perimeter, is the quadrilateral with the greater area.
A rombus can be a square also.
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