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New post 07 Jan 2011, 07:35
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I went with E.

The premise states that public employees salaries are funded with taxes (other possibilities like debt are slashed away).

However, public employees may have sources of rent (different from income) which may be taxable, converting them into real tax payers.


The problem with this is that you are assuming and utilizing your knowledge to introduce new concepts to the statements, one should always get back and only use what the question provides, if you use all of our knowledge in logic proofs like this we will made them just un-proof-able, and what is correctly concluded through logic for you will be different for any other human being that didn't knew this fact or any other you just included, that is why one should stay back to use general or personal knowledge to include as inputs to the logic proof and only use what the statements settle, that way you will assure there is only one correct answer
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B,C and E are all valid inferences.C is the only Inference which uses info from both the statements
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OK, tks.

It's C! hahaha
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Hi mates,

I really find difficult to choose between C and E, however I'd go with C

If taxes are removed, real taxpayers will find that their incomes increase. If public employees find that their incomes decrease, that means that public employees are not real taxpayers.

OA and Source?

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Incomes can also remain the same.
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The problem with my answer it's not what I have just said, but that it doesn't use the information held on the first premise.

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C OA.
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.


E is very close but the question is very tricky, so take into account this:

It is true that E can be logically derived from the second statement. The issue here is that the question is asking for a logical conclusion that depends on both statements. E only depends on the second statement and the first does not provide any informations relevant to conclude E

C on the other hand is a conclusion that depends on both statements:

(Please excuse my english, these are not formal logic procedures but they provide a general idea)
Lets suppose real tax payers are public employees
Supposition: x is a real tax payer <-> x is a public employee
Taxes are abolished -> y is a real tax payer ^ y has its disposable income increased
Taxes are abolished -> z is a public employee ^ z has its income dessapear
Lets take the person A, A is a real tax payer
Taxes are abolished then:
A is a real tax payer ^ A has its disposable income increased
A is a public employee ^ A has its disposable income increased
But also
A is a public employee ^ A has its income dessapear
So A has its disposable income increased ^ A has its income dessapear

Since we reached a contradiction we conclude that real tax payers cannot be public employees since disposable income cannot increase if the income dissapears.

We reach a contradiction that depend on both statements to proof. Answer E is also right, but it is not what the question is asking, be careful with tricky questions.

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hey , i didn't get anything from your explanation and its difficult to understand .

but i can say that i am with E.
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Tricky one...
C or E... both sound good...
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it clearly "C"
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thought E then C..but if you spend a few seconds more..you would agree with C...need to think fast on this one..
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C.

public employees can't be "real taxpayers" because:
1) they have no income
2) with no income they can't have disposable income.
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The devil is in Question Stem...

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

Thats why E wins over C..

I too got is wrong...:(
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE TAXPAYERS AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ARE FROM DIFFERENT SAMPLES/ GROUPS that's why they will face different effects of the tax proposal...


(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers. IMO CORRECT.
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Focus on the word 'both' in the question stem:

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers. -- This is a logical conclusion drawn from both statements.

(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid. -- This can be derived from second statement alone.
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C
Only C focuses on both and points out that public employees are a different group than the real tax players....
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.


All the other options except C and E are irrelevant.
Now the question clearly states

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

As to infer E we only require the 2nd statement whereas to infer C we require input from both the statements, So i go with C
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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

No tax = real taxpayers will have more income
No tax= Public employee will have no income.
Conclusion:- No tax = Any one who is a real taxpayer will see some increase in income except public employee who will not get any income.

Since after removing tax the public employee income is not increased, then it must be concluded thais employee are not real taxpayers.

OPTION C is the correct answer


Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

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Abolish taxes, and real taxpayers would find that their disposable incomes have increased. Abolish taxes, and public employees would find that their incomes have disappeared.

Which one of the following is a logical conclusion that depends on information in both of the statements above?

(A) Public offices should be abolished so that disposable incomes will rise.
(B) The only real taxpayers are those who would have more to spend if they did not pay taxes.
(C) Public employees are not real taxpayers.
(D) Public employees’ incomes should not be taxed since they come from taxes.
(E) If there were no taxes, then public employees could not be paid.

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