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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of----eight million people are compared with enrollment
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in-----eight million people are equivalent to those.. wrong comparison
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in----Wordy, awkword
(D) as many as the enrollment of------wrong comparison again
(E) as many as are enrolled in----OK to me


So "E" for me.
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of compares quantity with process of enrolling
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in compares quantity with people
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in compares quantity with people
(D) as many as the enrollment of better, although still compares uncomparable things (quantity with process)
(E) as many as are enrolled in Right one!

What is OA?

P.S. Please underline the part of the sentence which is under question.

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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 29 Jul 2009, 03:57
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People count, not amount!!!


Ok, let it be 'quantity' :)
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 29 Jul 2009, 21:16
I go with E
the equivalent of those enrolled in as in B is not correct. Had it been " the number equivalent ......", it would have been correct answer.
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 30 Jul 2009, 04:23
IMO E.
For numerical comparison, "as many as" is preferred to "equivalent"
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 31 Oct 2009, 07:25
I checked. E is the OA

but It's missing a subject, isn't it ?

as many as are...
I would have prefered as many as peophe who are...
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 04 May 2011, 19:24
E looks better in all of the options due to above mentioned reasons but I also have concerns about construction of sentence, Can anybody explain?
after comma about as many as are enrolled....; How before comma and after comma parts of the sentences are connected?
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 04 May 2011, 23:09
This problem is from OG Verbal Review. OA is E.
I am confused about the comparison here. How can 8 million people be compared to people in colleges?
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The sentence compares people with nation's four year enrollment (Countable noun with countable noun). Equivalent and Equal are used to modify uncountable noun. Such as water, sugar. As many as is used to modify countable noun.

In D people are improperly compared with enrollment.
E is the correct answer.
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in


"equivalent to the enrollment" messes up the comparison. You want to compare people to people. A is gone.

"the equivalent of those enrolled", you're equating people to "those enrolled", which doesn't make sense. B is gone.

"equal to those who are enrolled", in what way are they "equal"? Equal implies that the traits of X and Y are equal, or that the beliefs of X and Y are equal. But you don't want to compare traits/beliefs of X and Y, you want to compare X to Y. So, C is gone

"as many as the enrollment" compares the people to the enrollment. Doesn't make sense, so D is gone.

E "as many as are enrolled in" is a perfect segway into the non-underlined part to the right, this portion connects the traits of the 8 million people to the enrolled people in american colleges. That's the intended comparison.
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 24 May 2014, 01:14
E should be understood that

as many as the number of persons who are enroled...

but why do we can make and elliptical sentence like E? what is the rule of ellipsis applied in choice E. pls explain this
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2014, 05:47
According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.

The modifier "about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities" modifies "eight million people". So the modifier should talk about a number and not the enrollment.

(A) equivalent to the enrollment of - Comparing enrollment to number - Incorrect
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in - Comparing number to enrollment - Incorrect
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in - Comparing number to people who are enrolled in - Incorrect
(D) as many as the enrollment of - Comparing number and enrollment - Incorrect
(E) as many as are enrolled in - Comparing number and number - Correct
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(A) equivalent to the enrollment of "Equivalent" is an adjective, modifying the amount (which is another red flag). The "number" must not be omitted. None of them follow so it's grammatically incorrect.
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in "equivalent of" is wrong because the idiomatic phrase is "equivalent to".
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in "Equal" is also a modifier, so it must have amount/value/size. Without it, the phrase is not grammatical.
(D) as many as the enrollment of This violates the rules of comparison construction, where enrollment, being a process, cannot be compared to number of people.
(E) as many as are enrolled in Best choice. "As many as" is typically preferred for comparisons of equivalence. We know this because most of us write with "as many as". None of us use with "equivalent" or "equal" left alone. I suppose knowing which are countable and uncountable modifiers would help in how to eliminate the answer choices and what "equal" and "equivalent" generally refer to. We say "equal" and "equivalent" in English because what we are comparing in generally unquantifiable.
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 18 Jan 2015, 04:04
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According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in



I do not like this question which is from old og books. and I recomment you do not study this question.

in choice E.

the paralel structure permit us to cut off the same part in the second part of comparison. if there is no parallel structure, we can not cut of any part. there is no "a form of to be+ enroled" in the first part of the comparison. we can not infer the cut off part . we can not in fer that "people are enrolled" .
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 18 Jan 2015, 13:45
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yesiwill wrote:
According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation’s four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of
(E) as many as are enrolled in



I do not like this question which is from old og books. and I recomment you do not study this question.

in choice E.

the paralel structure permit us to cut off the same part in the second part of comparison. if there is no parallel structure, we can not cut of any part. there is no "a form of to be+ enroled" in the first part of the comparison. we can not infer the cut off part . we can not in fer that "people are enrolled" .


I did not understand your intent here. Why do you not recommend this? Can you be more simple and clear?
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2015, 18:45
I think the issue here is that the last sentence: "about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation's four-year colleges and universities" modifies the word "people."

A) says the people are equivalent to enrollment - "People" can't be equal to "enrollment"
B) and C) tries to say that the people are "equal" or "equivalent" to those enrolled in colleges - This could mean they are equal in abilities/skills etc. The sentence is trying to make a statement about the number of people though, so these two sentences aren't the best way to show that.
D) says eight million people are as many as "the enrollment of" Again, like A), "People" can't be as many as the "enrollment"

The best way to give more information on the "eight million people" is to say it as E) --> "as many as are enrolled in." It isn't missing a subject - the word "many" can function as a pronoun relating back to the noun "people."
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2015, 06:38
this is old question in og10 and should not be studied

people is countable so we have to use idiomatic use "as many as" as in D and E

enrolment is not countable so D is wrong

E has problem. the comparision need a parallel sides the second part contain a form of " to be" which is parallel to nothing in the first half of comparison. this situation is wrong in many other sc problems.
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Re: According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2015, 06:45
What is the subject of "are enrolled in". Isn't it a run-on sentence?
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