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45. According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty, modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s.(A) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s
(B) modeled the face of the statue after that of his mother and the body after that of his wife
(C) modeled the face of the statue like his mother and the body like his wife
(D) made the face of the statue after his mother and the body after his wife
(E) made the face of the statue look like his mother and the body look like his wife
Plz clarify in A and B....
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A would have been correct if it were

modeled the face of the statue like that of his mother's and ............ like that of his wife.

"that" is important here to make a proper comparison of "face" of statue to "face" of mother and not to "mother"
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45. According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty, modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s.(A) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s
(B) modeled the face of the statue after that of his mother and the body after that of his wife
(C) modeled the face of the statue like his mother and the body like his wife
(D) made the face of the statue after his mother and the body after his wife
(E) made the face of the statue look like his mother and the body look like his wife
Plz clarify in A and B....


'modeled after' is correct idiom that leaves you B and D. B uses correct comparision..

IMO B
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A would have been correct if it were

modeled the face of the statue like that of his mother's and ............ like that of his wife.

"that" is important here to make a proper comparison of "face" of statue to "face" of mother and not to "mother"


Thanks for the explanation
OA is B...
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Re: 45/1000 [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2010, 10:01
doesn't the apostrophe in "Mother's" in a represent the mother's face ....??
had it been "Mother's face" then would A be the correct choice...??
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Hey Rath's - you're absolutely correct that the possessive "mother's" refers to the face, so A would be correct were it not for the meaning of "modeled like" vs. "modeled after". "Modeled like" means that he did the modeling in a way that the mother's face would have, and that's not a logical meaning. "Modeled after" means that he made the face look like that of the mother's.

I hate saying that it's an idiomatic thing because it's really more of a meaning issue, but I do think that it's one of those questions that may have been fair 10-15 years ago when it was an American test but that may not be all that fair in the >50%-of-tests-taken-outside-the-US days. I just don't know how common it is for international students to note that particular distinction. But you should know that meaning issues are very testable, so the ideology behind that question is definitely fair game.
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Re: 45/1000 [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2011, 10:53
B seems better than any other choice
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Re: 45/1000 [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2011, 01:26
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(A) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s
(B) modeled the face of the statue after that of his mother and the body after that of his wife --> Correct relationship
(C) modeled the face of the statue like his mother and the body like his wife
(D) made the face of the statue after his mother and the body after his wife
(E) made the face of the statue look like his mother and the body look like his wife
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Re: According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, [#permalink] New post 03 Dec 2011, 05:26
"model after" is correct idiom. The right answer is B. Agree with all guys above.
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According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2015, 05:24
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Hey Rath's - you're absolutely correct that the possessive "mother's" refers to the face, so A would be correct were it not for the meaning of "modeled like" vs. "modeled after". "Modeled like" means that he did the modeling in a way that the mother's face would have, and that's not a logical meaning. "Modeled after" means that he made the face look like that of the mother's.

I hate saying that it's an idiomatic thing because it's really more of a meaning issue, but I do think that it's one of those questions that may have been fair 10-15 years ago when it was an American test but that may not be all that fair in the >50%-of-tests-taken-outside-the-US days. I just don't know how common it is for international students to note that particular distinction. But you should know that meaning issues are very testable, so the ideology behind that question is definitely fair game.

Hi Brian
I have a question.
I understand the subtlely between Modeled Like and Modeled After.
But in this question we are just comparing the nouns(Statue face like mother's face) and not the action of modeling.
Please correct my understanding.


Infact please let us know which one of them is the correct meaning.
1) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled something that looked like his mother's face.
2)modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled the face like he modeled his mother's face.

Thanks
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Re: According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2015, 05:59
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VeritasPrepBrian wrote:
Hey Rath's - you're absolutely correct that the possessive "mother's" refers to the face, so A would be correct were it not for the meaning of "modeled like" vs. "modeled after". "Modeled like" means that he did the modeling in a way that the mother's face would have, and that's not a logical meaning. "Modeled after" means that he made the face look like that of the mother's.

I hate saying that it's an idiomatic thing because it's really more of a meaning issue, but I do think that it's one of those questions that may have been fair 10-15 years ago when it was an American test but that may not be all that fair in the >50%-of-tests-taken-outside-the-US days. I just don't know how common it is for international students to note that particular distinction. But you should know that meaning issues are very testable, so the ideology behind that question is definitely fair game.

Hi Brian
I have a question.
I understand the subtlely between Modeled Like and Modeled After.
But in this question we are just comparing the nouns(Statue face like mother's face) and not the action of modeling.
Please correct my understanding.


Infact please let us know which one of them is the correct meaning.
1) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled something that looked like his mother's face.
2)modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled the face like he modeled his mother's face.

Thanks


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i dont think the meaning would be either...
the meaning that would come out of this isHe modelled the face of the statue as his mother's face would have modelled the face of the statue
in GMAT, like always gives comparison between two nouns...
example i, like my mother, enjoy to spend quiet evenings...
now lets look at the two meanings you have assumed..

1) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled something that looked like his mother's face.
the correct sentence construction to mean what you say would be
modeled the face of the statue similar to his mother’s or modeled the face of the statue that was similar to his mother’s

2)modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled the face like he modeled his mother's face.
keeping the logic at the meaning away, the sentence would be
...like will get replaced with as.. as he modelled his mothers..
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Re: According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2015, 06:27
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VeritasPrepBrian wrote:
Hey Rath's - you're absolutely correct that the possessive "mother's" refers to the face, so A would be correct were it not for the meaning of "modeled like" vs. "modeled after". "Modeled like" means that he did the modeling in a way that the mother's face would have, and that's not a logical meaning. "Modeled after" means that he made the face look like that of the mother's.

I hate saying that it's an idiomatic thing because it's really more of a meaning issue, but I do think that it's one of those questions that may have been fair 10-15 years ago when it was an American test but that may not be all that fair in the >50%-of-tests-taken-outside-the-US days. I just don't know how common it is for international students to note that particular distinction. But you should know that meaning issues are very testable, so the ideology behind that question is definitely fair game.

Hi Brian
I have a question.
I understand the subtlely between Modeled Like and Modeled After.
But in this question we are just comparing the nouns(Statue face like mother's face) and not the action of modeling.
Please correct my understanding.


Infact please let us know which one of them is the correct meaning.
1) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled something that looked like his mother's face.
2)modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled the face like he modeled his mother's face.

Thanks


Hi,
i dont think the meaning would be either...
the meaning that would come out of this isHe modelled the face of the statue as his mother's face would have modelled the face of the statue
in GMAT, like always gives comparison between two nouns...
example i, like my mother, enjoy to spend quiet evenings...
now lets look at the two meanings you have assumed..

1) modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled something that looked like his mother's face.
the correct sentence construction to mean what you say would be
modeled the face of the statue similar to his mother’s or modeled the face of the statue that was similar to his mother’s

2)modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s
In this I am taking away the meaning that he modeled the face like he modeled his mother's face.
keeping the logic at the meaning away, the sentence would be
...like will get replaced with as.. as he modelled his mothers..

Thanks Chetan
So I agree with your statement that we use noun or noun phrases to go with Like.
and this construction is perfectly clear "He modelled the face of the statue as his mother's face would have modelled the face of the statue".
you are using "AS" to compare one clause with another.

But as per my interpretation , I was using like to compare the object of 1st clause i.e "face of the statue" with "mother's face.

I know I am wrong, but how do I distinguish this in actual GMAT ?
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Re: According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2015, 07:54
282552 wrote:
Thanks Chetan
So I agree with your statement that we use noun or noun phrases to go with Like.
and this construction is perfectly clear "He modelled the face of the statue as his mother's face would have modelled the face of the statue".
you are using "AS" to compare one clause with another.

But as per my interpretation , I was using like to compare the object of 1st clause i.e "face of the statue" with "mother's face.

I know I am wrong, but how do I distinguish this in actual GMAT ?


Hi,
firstly the placement of like would have been better if it was close to he.. he like her mother...

next on the Q why we cannot compare to face of the statue ..
i think like, in the present usage, should compare two subjects and not objects..
It just not sound correct when comparing two objects..
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Re: According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, [#permalink] New post 19 Jun 2015, 07:58
chetan2u wrote:
282552 wrote:
Thanks Chetan
So I agree with your statement that we use noun or noun phrases to go with Like.
and this construction is perfectly clear "He modelled the face of the statue as his mother's face would have modelled the face of the statue".
you are using "AS" to compare one clause with another.

But as per my interpretation , I was using like to compare the object of 1st clause i.e "face of the statue" with "mother's face.

I know I am wrong, but how do I distinguish this in actual GMAT ?


Hi,
firstly the placement of like would have been better if it was close to he.. he like her mother...

next on the Q why we cannot compare to face of the statue ..
i think like, in the present usage, should compare two subjects and not objects..
It just not sound correct when comparing two objects..

So how do we decide whether to consider Object or Subject in real GMAT questions. or is it a general rule that we should never consider Objects
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