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Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Mo [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2013, 00:24
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Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century becuase they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

a) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
b) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
c) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
d) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
e) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it.


Meaning: reason for why was morocco important to french

Error analysis: C1- Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century
C2- becuase they assumed
C3 that if they did not hold it,
C4-their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

SV: No error:
V: Conditional tense rule violated as if <past> , then <would> is correct usage and not if <past> , then <was> is not correct usage
Pronoun: correct : they / thier logially and unambigously refer to french and it logicaly refers to morocco
Parallelism: Not tested and hence no error
Meaning: No error
Modifier: No error
Idioms: Not tested and hence no error
Others: None

POE:
a) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
Faulty as pointed above

b) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Although would is used correctly but in the if, then construction 'if' is not used. From the theory taught in the verb conditional concept
i have learned that then may be ommited but if should always be present. Can you please explain then why B is correct though 'if' is ommited

c) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it

Conditional error as in A pronoun reference error as well- 'it' can refer to both algeria and morrocco

d) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria

pronoun error- that can not be used in place of it to refer to morrocco

Conditional errror: Assumption, so would need to be used in place of could

e) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it.

Pronoun error as 'it' can refer to both algeria and morrocco.
I could not find any other error in this choice


Can you please share your view on the analysis posted above. Also please explain why the usage of if , then construction is correct in B though 'if' is missing

PS:i understand that 'would can be used without a condition but here as there is a condition so i expect that whole if, then framework must be used (ofcourse then can be ommited but not if as mentioned in the concept file of verb conditional)


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Re: Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Mo [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2013, 02:36
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First of all the part of the sentence must be underlined and the title of the post must be the first sentence of the question.

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Back to your question

SV: No error:
V: Conditional tense rule violated as if <past> , then <would> is correct usage and not if <past> , then <was> is not correct usage
Pronoun: correct : they / thier logially and unambigously refer to french and it logicaly refers to morocco
Parallelism: Not tested and hence no error
Meaning: No error
Modifier: No error
Idioms: Not tested and hence no error
Others: None


I do not agreee on that point because you always have a meaning on a sentence. You certainly could eliminate the wrong answer based on meaning/grammar errors

Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century becuase they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

a) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure

they assumed that if they......is already wrong just only to see this construction. If this is not enough for you, the sentence is constructed really really bad because the core part of the same is putted as an incidental phrase that we do not know what it modifies. let's take a look:

Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century becuase they assumed that if they did not hold it , their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

Notice how the main part is between TWO commas and this is non sensical. Even Without spotting a gramma error or a meaning issue or else: option A is wrong

b) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Correct

c) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it

here what the sentence says to us is this: if we do not have the grip we are insicure ?? we are insicure woithout a grip ???? just crazy. we are talking about countries not a grip; the grip should work as a means

d) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria

they assumed that ............without that, they could............Moreover, they are not secure about a possible attack via marocco up to France or they are not secure about the grip ???

e) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it.

Once again: the grip is the pivotal point.............

As you can see, you could pick the right answer only basing your decision on meaning AND grammar rules or meaning solely.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Mo [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2013, 07:34
there is one main problem with A and C.

the pattern "if do(did), then do (did) " is used to say about causal fact.

if temperature is 100 degree C, water boils.

this is causal fact.

we can not use "assume" before above pattern.

that is why A and C is wrong. this point is basic because the pattern is explained in all grammar books
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Re: Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Mo [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2013, 01:58
Hi carcass,

Agree with your explanation. I have a question.

Since both "assume" and "if" are conditional, do they not create a sort of redundancy if used together? Can choices A,C and E be eliminated based on this?

Please correct me if I went wrong.
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Re: Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Mo [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2013, 10:34
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Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century becuase they assumed that if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

a) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
b) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure
c) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it
d) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria
e) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it.


Meaning: reason for why was morocco important to french

Error analysis: C1- Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Morocco was also of interest to the French throughout the first half of the twentieth century
C2- becuase they assumed
C3 that if they did not hold it,
C4-their grip on Algeria was always insecure.

SV: No error:
V: Conditional tense rule violated as if <past> , then <would> is correct usage and not if <past> , then <was> is not correct usage
Pronoun: correct : they / thier logially and unambigously refer to french and it logicaly refers to morocco
Parallelism: Not tested and hence no error
Meaning: No error
Modifier: No error
Idioms: Not tested and hence no error
Others: None

POE:
a) if they did not hold it, their grip on Algeria was always insecure
Faulty as pointed above

b) without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure

Although would is used correctly but in the if, then construction 'if' is not used. From the theory taught in the verb conditional concept
i have learned that then may be ommited but if should always be present. Can you please explain then why B is correct though 'if' is ommited

c) their grip on Algeria was not ever secure if they did not hold it

Conditional error as in A pronoun reference error as well- 'it' can refer to both algeria and morrocco

d) without that, they could never be secure about their grip on Algeria

pronoun error- that can not be used in place of it to refer to morrocco

Conditional errror: Assumption, so would need to be used in place of could

e) never would their grip on Algeria be secure if they did not hold it.

Pronoun error as 'it' can refer to both algeria and morrocco.
I could not find any other error in this choice


Can you please share your view on the analysis posted above. Also please explain why the usage of if , then construction is correct in B though 'if' is missing

PS:i understand that 'would can be used without a condition but here as there is a condition so i expect that whole if, then framework must be used (ofcourse then can be ommited but not if as mentioned in the concept file of verb conditional)


Thanks in advance
Rahul Vijay


Hi Rahul,

Thanks for posting your doubt here. :-)

The first thing we need to notice here is that the original sentence does use the "if... then..."construction. However, that is not the case with the Correct answer choice B. The tense that this choice has is basically past-future of "will" that is "would".

In the time frame of past, when we speak of a future event, then we use "would" for such an event. For example:

Shahjahan was not aware that his son Aurangzeb would be responsible for the downfall of the Mughal Empire.

Same is the usage of "would" in the correct answer choice B. At that time, French thought without their grip on the Strait of Gibraltar, their grip on Algeria would not be secure.

So we actually do not have any "if... then..." construction here.

Hope this helps. :-)
Thanks.
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Re: Affording strategic proximity to the Strait of Gibraltar, Mo [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2013, 18:43
Hi Shraddha,

Thanks!

But can we say that the condition is present but it is not preceded by 'if'?

without it their grip on Algeria would never be secure ----> 'Without it' is the condition and 'their grip....' is the effect
This sentence could as well be reworded as if they did not hold morrocco, their grip on Algeria would never be secure?

Now if we can re-word the sentence as shown above then it implies that even 'if' can be ommited and the condition can be stated without 'if', provided the sentence makes sense.

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