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"he had reached" - pronoun error
A, C, E - out

B - reaching & being - out

D is reached --win
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[quote="abhi758"]After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached for a sheet of paper, crumpled it, and said, “It looks like that—beyond the mountains, more mountains.”

(A) After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached -> had to be used for earlier of the 2 actions
(B) On being asked to describe the new discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti) by Queen Isabella, Admiral Columbus, reaching
(C) Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), then he reached
(D) When asked by Queen Isabella to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), Admiral Columbus reached --> Correct
(E) After Queen Isabella had asked Admiral Columbus to describe the discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), he had reached --> same as A
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He reached is having PRE....
So D is the correct answer
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I voted for A because i saw that "he had reached" should earlier than "he said".
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abhi758 wrote:
After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached for a sheet of paper, crumpled it, and said, “It looks like that—beyond the mountains, more mountains.”
(A) After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached
(B) On being asked to describe the new discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti) by Queen Isabella, Admiral Columbus, reaching
(C) Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), then he reached
(D) When asked by Queen Isabella to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), Admiral Columbus reached
(E) After Queen Isabella had asked Admiral Columbus to describe the discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), he had reached

Not sure about the use of 'he had reached'.. Pls explain the choice you make..

plz help me. i don't know why is "A" is incorrect i think its perfectly fine as usage of which is correct, he refers to admiral columbus and after is used in 1st clause just to show sequence and had is used to show that he 1st crumpled the paper and said both are in past and we need to show sequence.so please help me to spot the mistake.
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rishabhmishra wrote:
abhi758 wrote:
After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached for a sheet of paper, crumpled it, and said, “It looks like that—beyond the mountains, more mountains.”
(A) After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached
(B) On being asked to describe the new discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti) by Queen Isabella, Admiral Columbus, reaching
(C) Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), then he reached
(D) When asked by Queen Isabella to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), Admiral Columbus reached
(E) After Queen Isabella had asked Admiral Columbus to describe the discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), he had reached

Not sure about the use of 'he had reached'.. Pls explain the choice you make..

plz help me. i don't know why is "A" is incorrect i think its perfectly fine as usage of which is correct, he refers to admiral columbus and after is used in 1st clause just to show sequence and had is used to show that he 1st crumpled the paper and said both are in past and we need to show sequence.so please help me to spot the mistake.


I think "After" and "had reached" is incorrect here. The right order is The Queen asked -> Admiral Columbus reached... However, in choice A:

After X, he had done Y

Choice A doesnot show the right sequence as said above. "Had done" means he had already done Y before the Queen asked, but "after" means he hadn't until the Queen said. So this is illogic.
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My observations

Many have termed A, C and E as pronoun error- choices obviously implying that the pronoun 'he' has been improperly used, as the subject of the clause is a queen and a female. IMHO, not so necessarily. In a sentence such as this, it is the logic that the is the ultimate decider. You see, 'he' is quite ok since it cannot refer to any other male than Columbus and the reference of a masculine pronoun to as to a female noun is naturally disqualified logically.

In an example as follows: Jack and Jill rode on her bike; the 'her' can refer to Jill only . it is unwieldy to assume that it could have been his bike or their joint ownership bike. As long as we have a clear reference, let's be done with it and proceed forth.

Then, the question is as to what is wrong with those choices after all? Let's see now:


(A) After Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), which was newly discovered, he had reached -----the past perfect for a later event is improper, while an earlier event is tensed in simple past. Tense error as many have pointed out.

(B) On being asked to describe the new discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti) by Queen Isabella, Admiral Columbus, reaching ----Who discovered Hispaniola; the choice suggests that the queen discovered it ---out for changing the original meaning.

(C) Queen Isabella asked Admiral Columbus to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), then he reached --- This is a run on.

(D) When asked by Queen Isabella to describe the newly discovered island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), Admiral Columbus reached --- All these phenomena are happening simultaneously, So the use of when and the simple past tense for all the events is appropriate.

(E) After Queen Isabella had asked Admiral Columbus to describe the discovery of the island of Hispaniola (now Haiti), he had reached --- use of 'had' to tense both an
earlier and a later event is improper


So now, we might see, why D is the correct choice.
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New post 19 Nov 2016, 14:10
nguyendinhtuong wrote:

I think "After" and "had reached" is incorrect here. The right order is The Queen asked -> Admiral Columbus reached... However, in choice A:

After X, he had done Y

Choice A doesnot show the right sequence as said above. "Had done" means he had already done Y before the Queen asked, but "after" means he hadn't until the Queen said. So this is illogic.


Absolutely - the explanation above supports your point. OA (D) has been added.
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