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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 31 Dec 2011, 17:47
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Your score of a 770 is definitely inflated but still VERY good! I would take off approximately 5-10 points of your score for each question you recognized. There are 3 reasons for this. First, you got a question right that you may not have. Second, you didn't spend as much time on that questions as you would have on another, so it gave you extra time to finish the other questions. Third, it boosted you into harder questions (since this is an adaptive test) when you may not deserve to be there. But still, GREAT job.

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1) Since, I usually finish Quant in an hour, can i take extended break of 15min + 8min? If I select answer to the last Quant question(37th), would it be submitted?


This is actually incorrect. You will NOT get extra time on your break if you have extra time after a section. Once answering your last question and choosing that you'd like to take your 8 minute break, you get exactly 8 minutes before your next section starts. Buuuut, that being said, you can sit at your testing station for that extra 15 minutes if you'd like to give your mind a break. You can relax, put your head down, or just stretch out yoru muscles. But you will only get about 7-8 minutes at your locker (where food and drink is) and NO more.

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2) Am I allowed to drink coffee etc during break time? I think so, but wanted to confirm. Drinking coffee is really important for me; if it's allowed, does cold coffee works as good as hot - not sure you would know such things, but no harm in asking.


You are allowed to drink coffee during your breaks, but they will not provide it for you. If drinking coffee is important to you I would recommend making coffee the night before and bringing it with you (cold) so that you can have it on your break. BUt remember, you will only have 8 minutes, and probably only 6-7 so you can get back to your test on time!! Coffee will still make you feel the same way cold or hot. You just won't get to enjoy it the same way your used to. Just remember though, if you drink a lot before the last section, it may make you need to use the restroom. You don't want that to distract you. I also don't recommend drinking coffee on test day unless you've practiced this on tests before. Sometimes the coffee can make you jittery, and not be able to concentrate if you don't drink coffee often. It sounds like this will not be the case for you. But for me personally I could not drink coffee on test day.

Congrats on your 770 test score! I definitely think you could score 750+ on test day! So get a good nights rest, and earn the score you deserve. Good luck!
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 31 Dec 2011, 18:42
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Your score of a 770 is definitely inflated but still VERY good! I would take off approximately 5-10 points of your score for each question you recognized. There are 3 reasons for this. First, you got a question right that you may not have. Second, you didn't spend as much time on that questions as you would have on another, so it gave you extra time to finish the other questions. Third, it boosted you into harder questions (since this is an adaptive test) when you may not deserve to be there. But still, GREAT job.


Completely agree with you.

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This is actually incorrect. You will NOT get extra time on your break if you have extra time after a section. Once answering your last question and choosing that you'd like to take your 8 minute break, you get exactly 8 minutes before your next section starts. Buuuut, that being said, you can sit at your testing station for that extra 15 minutes if you'd like to give your mind a break. You can relax, put your head down, or just stretch out yoru muscles. But you will only get about 7-8 minutes at your locker (where food and drink is) and NO more.


Okay, so I guess I can use the restroom in first 15min, and then lcoker in next 8min. I was expecting the restroom and locker to be on same corner and hence acccessible.

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You are allowed to drink coffee during your breaks, but they will not provide it for you. If drinking coffee is important to you I would recommend making coffee the night before and bringing it with you (cold) so that you can have it on your break. BUt remember, you will only have 8 minutes, and probably only 6-7 so you can get back to your test on time!! Coffee will still make you feel the same way cold or hot. You just won't get to enjoy it the same way your used to. Just remember though, if you drink a lot before the last section, it may make you need to use the restroom. You don't want that to distract you. I also don't recommend drinking coffee on test day unless you've practiced this on tests before. Sometimes the coffee can make you jittery, and not be able to concentrate if you don't drink coffee often. It sounds like this will not be the case for you. But for me personally I could not drink coffee on test day.


Yes, you're absolutely right that drinking a lot before last section may compell me to use restroom. I've experienced it in my practice tests. I'll try another test with cold coffee and will see how things go. Coffee in my case can cause as much as 40-50marks difference.

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Congrats on your 770 test score! I definitely think you could score 750+ on test day! So get a good nights rest, and earn the score you deserve. Good luck!


Thx a lot! I just hope to get a 740.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 31 Dec 2011, 20:38
I am sure you 'll, probably even better. All the best.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2012, 13:16
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Good luck! Just as an FYI, you will NOT be able to use the restroom during those 15 minutes after a section unless you raise your hand and have someone come get you. Make sure that you get back before your timer runs out so you can submit your last question. You can't leave your desk until you are on break until the test proctor comes and gets you. So you will have 8 minutes total for food, drink, restroom, and anything else you need from your locker. This is why you want to be careful what you drink, b/c using the restroom could cost you 3-5 minutes in a section. You also want to learn where the restroom is before your test. Trust me, the break will go by VERY fast, so make sure to practice the 8 minute break on your practice tests (after both the AWA AND Quant).

Also, if you have 15 minutes left after the quant section, and you're not scoring Q50 or Q51, I would recommend that you spend a little bit more time checking your answers to questions, and making sure you get as many right as you can. I'd rather have no time left at the end of the section with a higher score then 15 min left with a lower score.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2012, 14:22
2 days to go! I'm intensively working on my Verbal. My RC skills have improved a lot as I started to make a sketch and to take notes during reading! I have only 0-1-2 mistakes in RC. My SC has improved as well thanks to MGMAT SC book. My biggest problem is CR, I still have lots of mistakes in them (5-6-7), and that makes my verbal score much worse!

I have read MGMAT CR book several times, but despite this fact I still think that CR is really subjective and I can't choose between ACs for sure! I usually do not take notes during CR problems, but now I think I will try this technique, because it has worked with RC too! I am only afraid that i wouldn't be able to practice it enough till the exam (I have to work tomorrow) thus I will be out of time on Verbal!

What do you think about Diagramming on CR problems? Do you think it is worth, or should I find another way to improve my CR skills?
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2012, 15:28
I don't use diagramming, simply because I haven't practiced with it. Might work for you. But, you need to make it a habit and would have to solve all your future CR practice questions with that approach.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2012, 23:08
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Good luck! Just as an FYI, you will NOT be able to use the restroom during those 15 minutes after a section unless you raise your hand and have someone come get you. Make sure that you get back before your timer runs out so you can submit your last question. You can't leave your desk until you are on break until the test proctor comes and gets you. So you will have 8 minutes total for food, drink, restroom, and anything else you need from your locker. This is why you want to be careful what you drink, b/c using the restroom could cost you 3-5 minutes in a section. You also want to learn where the restroom is before your test. Trust me, the break will go by VERY fast, so make sure to practice the 8 minute break on your practice tests (after both the AWA AND Quant).

Also, if you have 15 minutes left after the quant section, and you're not scoring Q50 or Q51, I would recommend that you spend a little bit more time checking your answers to questions, and making sure you get as many right as you can. I'd rather have no time left at the end of the section with a higher score then 15 min left with a lower score.


GMATLA,

Thank you so much for giving so much thought to my problem!

I generally score 50 or 51 in Q, thus not so worried there but yes it'd be very important to effectively utilize the 15min and be back on the seat to submit last question. Also, U'r right about 8min being very less time to do so much.

btw I've not seen anybody worrying much about AWA, still I wanted to find out whether I would be able get a 5+ using chineeseburned template - I'm sure you have pretty good experience by now. Here is a sample argument that I worked on mgmat-5:

The following appeared in an article in a consumer-electronics magazine:

"Company X's latest model of digital camera to be released next month, the TR12, is being promoted as the most portable, user-friendly digital camera available, and also an excellent bargain. It can be expected to live up to these claims, because Company X's previous model, the TR11, was universally lauded as setting the standard in these areas last year."
Discuss how well reasoned you find this argument. Point out flaws in the argument's logic and analyze the argument's underlying assumptions. In addition, evaluate how supporting evidence is used and what evidence might counter the argument's conclusion. You may also discuss what additional evidence could be used to strengthen the argument or what changes would make the argument more logically sound.


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The argument claims that company X's latest model, TR12, is most portable, user-friendly digital camera, and is on excellent bargain. It also claims that, TR12 will live up to the expectations because TR11 set a new standard last year. Stated in this way, the argument relies on several assumptions and is rather weak and unconvincing as it fails to mention several key factors that would have justified the conclusion.

Firstly, the argument claims that TR12 is most portable, and without any substance to its claim this argument is very weak; questions such as what makes TR12 most portable or is there no other company in the market with more portable digital camera than TR12 would automatically arise in anyone's mind. Failing to present any supporting evidence, this argument is very weak.

Secondly, the argument states that TR12 is user friendly however it doesn't support its claim with any evidence, survey report or any kind of fact; the argument clearly makes a leap of faith and goes on to claim that the product is available on excellent bargain - again it fails to strengthen its claim with any discounted numbers or new prices, or what makes the offer an excellent bargain. It uses ill defined terminology and doesn't support its claim or define the terminology.

Finally, argument goes on to claim that, since TR11 set the stnadard last year, so TR12 will live up to the new set expectations. Undobtedly, the argument makes a leap of faith and fails to present a big assumption. Questions such as, is TR12 a better version of TR11 automatically arises in customers mind. If it's, what makes TR12 better than TR11 and how will it surpass or live up to the already high set standard. For instance, Windows 2007 was touted a lot by microsoft as better version than Windows 2003; a lot of people believed the initial marketing message only to realize later that windows 2003 is better than windows 2007 - many of these switched back to windows 2003. Hence, even if TR12 is an upgraded version of TR11 we can not possibly conclude that TR12 will live up to the claims because TR11 set the standard last year.

For above presented reasons: most portable, user friendly, excellent bargain and living up to the expectation - one is left with the impression that the argument is more of wishful thinking or judgment than a fact. The argument can be made a lot stronger if author present supporting facts/evidence for each of the claims it made.

In order to assess the merit of a particular situation, we need all the facts supporting or weakening the situation. In this case, the argument makes many assumptions, fails to support these assumptions and hence is a very weak and unconvincing argument.

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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2012, 05:48
I got my GMAT exam today and scored 690! (Q47, V38) I hoped that I could achieve 700 but I'm quite happy with that also if I compare it to the time allocated for learning (I had a month, but could intensively learn only 7 days).

Thank you for your help and good luck for those who are planning to take the exam!
I hope that I can help you in the future!
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2012, 11:35
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Test Date: 11 Jan
Target Score: 700+
Materials: Manhattan Guides, OG 12 Edn, Gmatclub Toolkit (used it mostly for SC and CR and some hard quants qs)

Practice Test Scores
Gmat Prep 1 - 550 (Q38 V28)
Gmat Prep 2 - 680 (Q50 V32)

Manhattan 1 - 630 (Q45 V32)
Manhattan 2 - 680 (Q44 V38)
Manhattan 3 - 670 (Q45 V36)
Manhattan 4 - 680 (Q48 V34
Manhattan 5 - 700 (Q47 V38)

Princeton Review 650 (Q44 V37)


I have big issue with time on maths plus if I see a long question I panic I dont know how to do its not that I dont know the question or cant solve it under normal conditions its just when clock is ticking I kind of freak out that I'm giving too much time to a question which I eventually do wrong anyway.

Quants weak areas: Geometry, probability/combinations
Verbal weak areas: RC especially those medicine and astronomy topics I have always hated biology since early school days and its coming back to haunt me I guess.

Lastly manhattan I would say at least from my search is the most recommended prep provider but their algorithm is beyond me I have made as many as 17 18 mistakes on quants and still I get like 45 and in quants and made only 10-13 mistakes in verbal and get around 32 to 34

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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2012, 13:29
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Jan 3rd.
Targeting - Not sure where? Struggling with timing at the moment.

Hope to have a better prediction of where I may end up by next week :)


Feeling like shooting myself. 720 (Q51, V36). Had almost a brain freeze 20 questions into verbal. Guessed one full RC and more than 3 CR and 2 SC. Perhaps more than 10 questions in verbal.

Would definitely retake in a month. Not because this is a bad score, but because I know I wasn't able to complete the exam (so to speak).

I 'll definitely write a detailed debrief in a day or two.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 04 Jan 2012, 19:32
Guys,
My test was not good today; I dropped dead to 700(51Q, 34V). I'll retake....I've been thinking a lot on what I did wrong and I think having coffee before the verbal session was not a good practice that I followed throughout my preparation but couldn't follow today.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 09 Jan 2012, 14:51
I got 630 (Q40 V36), I have no clue what happened in the quantitative section as I felt good throughout the test. Won't be retaking anytime soon as I plan to go to graduate school in a few years. I just wanted to get the GMAT out of the way but I guess I didn't.

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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2012, 06:05
Test Date: 1/12/12

Target Score: 740+

Practice Test Scores and Materials:
MGMAT1: 700 (Q43, V42)
Kaplan CD 1: 640
MGMAT2: 670 (Q45, V36)
GMAT PREP 1: 730
MGMAT3: 760 (Q49, V45)
MGMAT4: 780 (Q51, V45)

Any Last Minute Questions: How can I make that last practice test count for the real thing? Please?

Any Last Minute Advice: I'll tell you if I actually do well on this thing...
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2012, 09:18
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Test Date: 1/12/12

Any Last Minute Questions: How can I make that last practice test count for the real thing? Please?
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Take the test outside home. Find a library.
Take the test approximately around the same time your actual test is scheduled.
Don't take more than 8 minute breaks.
Write AWA.
Eat/drink the same stuff you are planning to eat/drink on your test day.

Keep your cool. I am sure you 'll hit a great score. Good luck.
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2012, 11:41
Test date 18th jan
i am really worried with my scores
Target 700+

kaplan-670 q50 v28
Mgmat-620 q39 v35
Gmat prep1- 620 q46 v30

My scores are varying lie anything..The biggest problem for me is keeping my mind fresh during verbal as when i see the review i get them all right..But during the test i cant concentrate on verbal and feel sleepy..What should i do? Please help me
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 10 Jan 2012, 11:47
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I would recommend that you follow these tips to help with Stamina! 10-tips-to-improve-your-score-app-with-no-extra-studying-124393.html

You also need to practice studying for long periods of time, and not checking answers frequently. To help with Stamina, I would recommend doing 75 minute study sessions with 8 minute breaks. Especially doing 30-40 questions in a row with no break, timed, and no chance to check answers. Stamina is huge, and if you are feeling tired then you are not scoring at your 100%. You need to do more practice tests, including awa, and try to refresh yourself on breaks. Do jumping jacks, get the blood flowing, and move around. this will help fresh your body and mind.

Also, when you feel your mind wondering in any section, especially at the end, close your eyes, take a few DEEP breaths. Sometimes people cover there mouths or actually forget to breath during the test. The lack of oxygen will deplete your energy. I recommend that you take 5 DEEP breathes and attacking the next question. I also recommend that you do not put your elbows on your desk, or rest your head and your hand. This can actually trick your mind into feeling sleepy. Sit on the edge of your chair, straight up, and attack the next question.

Also, to help your motivation, remember how important each question is. 3 correct answers in a row can help boost your score by even up to 50 points! So keep working hard, and Good luck!
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 11 Jan 2012, 04:49
Hey,

I just took the GMAT today and got a disappointing grade of 600 (Q48 V26), I never thought I would get that grade even though awkwardly I felt I did well on the english and bad on the math. It is really disappointing to get such a grade. I guess now I need to really study for the english which is apparently my major weakness. My prep score were as follows:

Kaplan (510, 590, 590, 650)

GMAT prep (610)

and MGMAT (660) (Q45, V35)

Anyone could recommend a gd strategy to improve the english to atleast 36-40?
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 11 Jan 2012, 08:53
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I just took the GMAT today and got a disappointing grade of 600 (Q48 V26), I never thought I would get that grade even though awkwardly I felt I did well on the english and bad on the math. It is really disappointing to get such a grade. I guess now I need to really study for the english which is apparently my major weakness. My prep score were as follows:

Kaplan (510, 590, 590, 650)

GMAT prep (610)

and MGMAT (660) (Q45, V35)

Anyone could recommend a gd strategy to improve the english to atleast 36-40?


Hey Albuloushi,

The verbal is a lot harder to improve than the math. I posted some suggestions on another forum the other day...hopefully this can help:

need-help-to-get-in-the-690-730-range-125642.html#p1026261
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 12 Jan 2012, 13:17
Hey guys. I took the GMAT today and ended up with a 710 (Q42 V46). I thought I did better than that on the Quant, but I'm generally happy with the result. Did any of you guys take part in the voluntary Integrated Reasoning research at the end of the exam? We're supposed to get something back for that right? I read that last time they would refund something like $20 of your test fee, and possibly the whole $250. Anyone know what the deal is?
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Re: All January GMAT Test Takers [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2012, 20:19
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I got my GMAT exam today and scored 690! (Q47, V38) I hoped that I could achieve 700 but I'm quite happy with that also if I compare it to the time allocated for learning (I had a month, but could intensively learn only 7 days).

Thank you for your help and good luck for those who are planning to take the exam!
I hope that I can help you in the future!

Congrats on your score.My gmat is on 28 and would like to know the length of RC that you got ...How many lines or paras were there and how was the complexity
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