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almost top B-schools & younger applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Jul 2004, 16:52
hi guys,

i'd appreciate your advises on B-schools for younger (22-23) applicants.
is it worth to apply to decent schools?
any advises on second tier b-schools?

i'm not unexperienced, though most part of experience i was getting during university years.

my pros -

1)2.5 years in Fortune 10 company. Quite good progress of responsibilities, though I didn't have supervisor position.
started with summer internship and shortly was delegated serious tasks.

2) while working 40+ hrs/week, i was studying in the university (part-time). i was the only student in my department who managed to do so and my GPA is 3.8 for Master diploma, and 3.6 for Barchelor.

3)proven leadership activities in student organizations etc. etc. etc.

4) I still hope i could do gmat 700+

my cons -

1) almost ALL working experience was obtained during studying as I graduated summer 2003.

2) I had to quit my job in winter 2004 and relocate to US, so I'm unemployed now. but - I volunteer for international student organization here.

would appreciate any info from you.
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2004, 06:29
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Hmm... Yeah, I would say that you probably don't yet have enough experience to get into a top school. (Although, I don't know enough about you to say for sure.) Your being unemployed isn't the worst thing in the world, esp. since you're doing good work in the meantime, but you will have to show more career progress to improve your chances of getting into a top program.

I wish I had more to say. I actually think that the same things that will make it hard for you to get into a top-ten program will also make it hard for you to get ito a top-30 program. You're probbly best off getting a couple more years of experience before you apply.

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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2004, 07:11
thank you Scott!
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B-schools and younger applicants [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2004, 10:56
Hello,

Have you considered the special master's degrees offered by some schools (MS Finance, MS HR)? These programs often have lower experience requirements and might match your interests.

Note that some of the ultra elite "Top 5" schools openly encourage applications from students with relatively low work experience as long as they have stellar compensating credentials. Further, do not forget that the work experience distribution can be highly skewed thus the median work experience can be far lower than the mean work experience.

However, I agree that you face an uphill battle with most admissions committees in the near elite and higher range.

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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2004, 11:23
Hjort, thank you for advice!

yes, i'm looking for MS programs as well, but almost all bus schools that are situated in locations appropriate for me teach any business majors in business schools, at MBA programs, not MS :?

there are MS or MA in majors such as public relations or communications etc, but i'm not sure if that's what i need :roll:
however, i keep looking and thank you for feedback!
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2004, 15:23
Hi again,

What metro areas are accessible to you? (e.g. NYC, SF Bay Area, Atlanta).

I might be able to point to some MSF or other programs in that region.

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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2004, 18:09
hi again Hjort,
thank you!

i'm looking for schools in Atlanta metro area or
NY & Boston metro or San Francisco metro - in other words, near big cities with developed job market.

i'm interested in -
MS in International Business/Management/Marketing/
Finance

actually i'm not sure about Marketing, though it's extremely interesting for me, but i learned that for internationals it could be tough to find a job in this area (due to lack of cultural understanding etc)

in Atlanta area there is a good university - Emory, but they propose either MBA or PhD in Business or PhD in Economics, or undegrad studies in these areas, that's all. no MS.

MS programs in Georgia State don't have a rank at all.

I'm thinking about Georgia Institute of Technology as well, but their business program has 43th rank...

as an international student who wants to work in US after graduation, i don't have any options but to get into really impressive program... :roll:

here is my draft list of univers:

#6 Columbia University -NY
#12 UCLA -CA
#14 New York University (Stern) - NY
#14 Yale University - Connecticut
#18 University of Southern California (Marshall)-CA
#19 Emory University (Goizueta) -GA
#42 Boston University
#43 Georgia Institute of Technology -GA

i would appreciate your feedback very much :)
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Jul 2004, 22:25
Hi again,

There are some special masters programs in these metro areas, especially in Financial Engineering. For instance, Berkeley/Haas has an MFE program.

Nonetheless, I think that you have a chance with some transelite or elite business schools if you are willing to be flexible. In particular, consider Yale SOM (already on your list) and Carnegie.

Another option might be a GSAL program.

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 [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2004, 12:57
thank you, Hjort!

what does "GSAL" mean?

as i know, there are only MBA&PhD programs at Yale SOM.
Carnegie is 6 hours from NYC. too far.
(i'm still tied to big cities where my husband could have a job)

thank you for inspiring me :)
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 [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2004, 18:39
GSAL stands for Graduate Student At Large. These programs allow students to take courses in an MBA program without being in a degree program. Thus, you can take the same courses as MBA students and demonstrate that you can excel in the B-school environment even if the MBA program might not accept you as a degree-seeking student. Few things can demonstrate that an MBA program should accept you as strongly as succeeding in that program's own coursework.

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 [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2004, 04:16
thank you Hjort - it's an idea.
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