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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2010, 02:43
This discussion is very helpful... I had totally missed the "each" rule and selected option A since it seemed well structured.

Now i know why the answer is E... Thanks :)
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2010, 14:39
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Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.

(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

[Reveal] Spoiler: OA
E


A and D out for each of the three major networks which is singular
B and C out for IF ...

E is correct as the three major networks each is plural
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 08:29
Lot of explanations. If rule + Sub Verb agreement - I need to brush up
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 21:09
i picked C, but with explanation now convince it should be E. Completely missed the 'if'
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2011, 21:23
E for me...
B,C can be eliminated because use of if changes the meaning by sounding that television will be superficial only when if condition is true..
A can be eliminated because "broadcast" requires usage of a plural noun...
D is eliminated for similar reasons...

Left with E...:)
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2011, 07:15
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Can anybody explain me why E is plural and why C violates "if rule"?

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Each when placed before the Subject requires a verb in singular form. But note that Each placed after the Subject has no bearing on the verb form. (MGMAT Guide Book)
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2011, 07:19
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Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when
each of the three major networks
broadcast exactly the same statement from a political
candidate.

(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks - singular
-- followed by plural verb "broadcast", so A is wrong
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
- "if" rule violated
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
- "if" rule violated
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
- Same as A, out
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each - Plural
- Correct.


Each of the items - singular
Items each - plural
~ Whenever "each" is preceded by noun, verb agrees the number of noun.



What's the rule on IF??? :(
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2011, 07:48
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

I think a comma after the word superficial makes the sentence construct better and E is correct
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2011, 14:40
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Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.

(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks - a plural subject preceded by 'each' or 'every' makes the subject singular. The non-underlined word 'broadcast' suggests that the verb is plural and hence the subject should be plural....hence incorrect

(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks

(C) superficial if the three major networks all

(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks

(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each - when a subject precedes 'each' or 'every' the sentence takes the plural or singular subject (which is before 'each' or 'every') and accordingly has singular or plural verb.

for example:

Each of these shirts is pretty.

They are each great tennis players.

This is all written in page 31 of MGMAT SC book.

I would appreciate if somone can explain how "if" rule is violated in B and C.


Thanks seekmba for your reference. In the latest edition of SC book the page number is 41. I brushed up on 'each' & 'every' singular usage once again.
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 17 Apr 2011, 04:45
We can easily ELIMINATE A and D for the reason that the verb is looking for a plural subject.
We elimate B because it's too wordy and creates the same error in C. See below.
We elimate C because it is using the wrong IF voice.

In the MGMAT there are five patterns to using the IF construct
1) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she BECOMES ill. (General Rule with no uncertainty)
2) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she MAY/CAN BECOME ill. (General Rule with some uncertainty)
3) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she WILL BECOME ill. (Particular case in the future with no uncertainty)
4) IF Sophie ATE pizza tomorrow, THEN she WOULD BECOME ill. (Unlikely case in the future)
5) IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill (case that never happened)

So what make B and C wrong is the USE of IF construct with the TV can be superficial creates an UNCERTAINTY tone. So E is better.

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Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.

(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

[Reveal] Spoiler: OA
E
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2012, 16:02
could someone please explain or point me to "if rule violation"

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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2012, 20:29
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We can easily ELIMINATE A and D for the reason that the verb is looking for a plural subject.
We elimate B because it's too wordy and creates the same error in C. See below.
We elimate C because it is using the wrong IF voice.

In the MGMAT there are five patterns to using the IF construct
1) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she BECOMES ill. (General Rule with no uncertainty)
2) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she MAY/CAN BECOME ill. (General Rule with some uncertainty)
3) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she WILL BECOME ill. (Particular case in the future with no uncertainty)
4) IF Sophie ATE pizza tomorrow, THEN she WOULD BECOME ill. (Unlikely case in the future)
5) IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill (case that never happened)

So what make B and C wrong is the USE of IF construct with the TV can be superficial creates an UNCERTAINTY tone. So E is better.


Are these the only valid constructions in GMAT arena??
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2012, 20:34
+1 E

This is a really nice question & a bit confusing too.... I was stumped between A & E, but such as is used to illustrate examples hence went with E
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 23 Mar 2012, 15:32
C and D are out as they suggest television is superficial (only) if 3 networks ....
A out as subject is not plural, B is wordy
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 19 Apr 2012, 05:19
very nice question

brushed up my "each" usage skills and also if rule :wink:
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 19 Apr 2012, 09:46
I chose A, but now I see E to be better.....but A..oh! so close....almost :)
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 19 Apr 2012, 12:39
great thanks for the explanation. It's tough catching those "each" as singular and considering it as a noun.
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 19 Apr 2012, 13:32
I'm still confused on the usage of "if". When using the conditional "if", one can use modal verbs "can" and "may" in place of the future tense to stress possibility. Since "can be" is part of the non-underline part, uncertainty/possibility is present.

If we rewrite "C": If the three major networks all broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate, television can be superficial. (That makes sense to me.)

If we re-write "E": As when the three major networks each broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate, television can be superficial. (That doesn't make sense to me. Additionally, "as when" sounds awk. Plus the comma after superficial is throwing me off.

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We can easily ELIMINATE A and D for the reason that the verb is looking for a plural subject.
We elimate B because it's too wordy and creates the same error in C. See below.
We elimate C because it is using the wrong IF voice.

In the MGMAT there are five patterns to using the IF construct
1) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she BECOMES ill. (General Rule with no uncertainty)
2) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she MAY/CAN BECOME ill. (General Rule with some uncertainty)
3) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she WILL BECOME ill. (Particular case in the future with no uncertainty)
4) IF Sophie ATE pizza tomorrow, THEN she WOULD BECOME ill. (Unlikely case in the future)
5) IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill (case that never happened)

So what make B and C wrong is the USE of IF construct with the TV can be superficial creates an UNCERTAINTY tone. So E is better.

neeshpal wrote:
Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.

(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

[Reveal] Spoiler: OA
E
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Re: SC - Television [#permalink] New post 01 May 2012, 02:54
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Thanks to law school researcher for the explanation. If I understood it correctly the problem is the following:

The meaning of the sentence is that "television is (no uncertainty) superficial" in the given situation. But when "if" is used as in B and C, the meaning of sentence changes to "television can be (with some uncertainty) superficial" in the given situation.

E says that "Television can be superficial, for example when the three major networks....". If you turn this around and start with the example you have to write it like this to keep the meaning: "When the three major networks broadcast... , television is superficial".

So we can express the meaning of the sentence in two ways:
In general, television is not superficial, but in situation x it is superficial (ie. television can be superficial).
In situation x television is superficial. (no uncertainty)

If we use "if" as in B and C, we change the meaning of sentence:
In situation x television can be superficial. (uncertain)

I hope its clear.

A side note: The "when" rules out uncertainty, so you can't just replace it with "if" --> always look at the rest of sentence, beacuse sometimes you can chose between the two without changing the meaning (google if and when, there are plenty of explanations).


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I'm still confused on the usage of "if". When using the conditional "if", one can use modal verbs "can" and "may" in place of the future tense to stress possibility. Since "can be" is part of the non-underline part, uncertainty/possibility is present.

If we rewrite "C": If the three major networks all broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate, television can be superficial. (That makes sense to me.)

If we re-write "E": As when the three major networks each broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate, television can be superficial. (That doesn't make sense to me. Additionally, "as when" sounds awk. Plus the comma after superficial is throwing me off.

lawschoolsearcher wrote:
We can easily ELIMINATE A and D for the reason that the verb is looking for a plural subject.
We elimate B because it's too wordy and creates the same error in C. See below.
We elimate C because it is using the wrong IF voice.

In the MGMAT there are five patterns to using the IF construct
1) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she BECOMES ill. (General Rule with no uncertainty)
2) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she MAY/CAN BECOME ill. (General Rule with some uncertainty)
3) IF Sophie EATS pizza, THEN she WILL BECOME ill. (Particular case in the future with no uncertainty)
4) IF Sophie ATE pizza tomorrow, THEN she WOULD BECOME ill. (Unlikely case in the future)
5) IF Sophie HAD EATEN pizza yesterday, THEN she WOULD HAVE BECOME ill (case that never happened)

So what make B and C wrong is the USE of IF construct with the TV can be superficial creates an UNCERTAINTY tone. So E is better.
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Re: Although it claims to delve into political issues, [#permalink] New post 01 May 2012, 09:52
E

they each plural verb construction.
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