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84.Although it was expected that workers under forty would show hostility to the plan, the research report indicates that both younger and the older people approve of governmental appropriations for Social Security.
(A) younger and the older people
(B) younger people and the older
(C) the younger and the older people
(D) younger and older people
(E) people who are younger and those who are older
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26 May 2005, 04:36
C.

Can anyone pls explain the difference between C and D? I think they are both right.
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26 May 2005, 06:53
C seems correct... though will have to refer to my grammar book for this one...
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26 May 2005, 07:13
I would go for D.
I think the use of "the" in C is inappropriate.
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26 May 2005, 08:07
I vaguely rememebered back in school that "the" is used toward a specific instance. In this case, older and young are two general groups, so "the" wouldn't be appropriate here. I might be wrong, but I thought I can start a discussion here.
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26 May 2005, 08:10
One more for D.
C is comparing the younger with the older people
not the younger people with the older people

D is right in, younger and older people.
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26 May 2005, 08:21
TooLegitToQuit wrote:
I vaguely rememebered back in school that "the" is used toward a specific instance. In this case, older and young are two general groups, so "the" wouldn't be appropriate here. I might be wrong, but I thought I can start a discussion here.

I vote for D

the younger and the older ....AFAIK, they are best used as "the younger of the two etc" or as "liked by both the young and the old alike...." ( not sure of this particular construction in C)

D looked concise.

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26 May 2005, 08:53
Thanks guys for clarifying "the" prominence...
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30 May 2005, 12:48
TooLegitToQuit wrote:
I vaguely rememebered back in school that "the" is used toward a specific instance. In this case, older and young are two general groups, so "the" wouldn't be appropriate here. I might be wrong, but I thought I can start a discussion here.

IMO, that is the reason why C is wrong - "the" forces something to be singular. Here "younger" and "older" are used as adjectives.

B X & Y [people----> Noun]

Cant use "the" for X & Y because "the" limits" a noun and often causes it to be in singular mode. Hence C is wrong.

E.g: The number ---> singular.
A number ---> plural.

What is the OA?
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30 May 2005, 14:12
gmataquaguy wrote:
TooLegitToQuit wrote:
I vaguely rememebered back in school that "the" is used toward a specific instance. In this case, older and young are two general groups, so "the" wouldn't be appropriate here. I might be wrong, but I thought I can start a discussion here.

IMO, that is the reason why C is wrong - "the" forces something to be singular. Here "younger" and "older" are used as adjectives.

B X & Y [people----> Noun]

Cant use "the" for X & Y because "the" limits" a noun and often causes it to be in singular mode. Hence C is wrong.

E.g: The number ---> singular.
A number ---> plural.

What is the OA?

I don't agree to the portion in red
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03 Jun 2005, 07:14
What is the OA? Perez please post OA.

Why would someone chose "C" over "D" or vice-versa? Vithal, IMO, the "the" rule, although not applicable in every case tends to cause something to be singular [The number Vs A number].

I'm not a 100% sure if its applicable here
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13 Jun 2005, 18:27
Paul, Supercat could either of you demistify why AC "C" is wrong? I havent seen a reasonable explanation on why AC "C" is wrong. the article "the" can sometimes be used to convert a verb and/or adjective a noun.

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

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13 Jun 2005, 18:48
84.Although it was expected that workers under forty would show hostility to the plan, the research report indicates that both younger and the older people approve of governmental appropriations for Social Security.
(A) younger and the older people
(B) younger people and the older
(C) the younger and the older people
(D) younger and older people
(E) people who are younger and those who are older

infact "the" makes "C" a better choice over "D" because "both" refers to plural form and "the" younger and "the " older makes it plural .
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13 Jun 2005, 19:06
I'll go with C, though D looks tempting as it's more concise. However, I feel you'll need 'the' in this instace. By expanding out C, you'll get:

Both the younger people and the older people agree ...

D doesn't sound so good upon expanding:

Both younger people and older people agree...

I think 'the' is used to refer to a particular group of younger/older people rather than all the younger/people in the world.

Example would be:

Both the apples and oranges are sweet. -> would refer to a particular group of apples and oranges

Both apples and oranges are sweet -> would refer to all apples and oranges in general
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14 Jun 2005, 03:49
(A) younger and the older people
Worng. Not parallel.

(B) younger people and the older
Wrong. Not parallel.

(C) the younger and the older people

(D) younger and older people

(E) people who are younger and those who are older
Wrong. I dont find a grammatical mistake but is sure wordy

Both C and D are right but I opt for C. As younger and older are more general. But the younger and the older refer to the people of the worker group. I agree with ywilfred's explanation.

for more understanding refer to this paticular choice :
http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=17186
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14 Jun 2005, 21:58
Found this post on a different site.

It says OA is D. No logical explanation is given

http://www.sentencecorrection.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1818

Can someone please explain why the answer should be D and not C
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14 Jun 2005, 22:01
http://www.sentencecorrection.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1818

Says OA is D

I'm not sure why C is not correct
Can someone explain?
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14 Jun 2005, 22:47
http://www.sentencecorrection.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1818

Says OA is D

I'm not sure why C is not correct
Can someone explain?

C) is not incorrect. its just not required to use "the". its not necessary to point out the younger and the older ppl. we speak of them in a more general way. when we would compare younger and older ppl of different countries. we would use "the" to point to the younger an the older ppl of france but thats not required.
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15 Jun 2005, 02:08
http://www.sentencecorrection.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1818

Here the OA is mentioned as D. No convincing answer has been provided.
I feel the answer should be C.

Can any one provide a convincing explanation?
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