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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 05 Oct 2011, 23:59
Narrowed it to B and C and chose B as name follows directly after the first clause, which mentions about barbara.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 06 Oct 2011, 08:09
B.. Classic case of dangling noun modifier
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2011, 13:33
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B.. Classic case of dangling noun modifier


can you explain what you mean with "Classic case of dangling noun modifier"?
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2011, 23:37
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B.. Classic case of dangling noun modifier


can you explain what you mean with "Classic case of dangling noun modifier"?
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well I believe the the modifying phrase has to touch the noun that it is modifying.... in this case it is modifying Barbara, so that noun needs to be the very first word after the comma that ends the modifier.

Meanwhile, It is a dangling modifier, when the noun is not directly touching the modifier.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 10 Oct 2011, 04:15
As gtr022001 said, a noun modifier needs to touch the noun it is modifying....
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Re: [#permalink] New post 12 Oct 2011, 10:50
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This is a very good conceptual question guys.

OK option B is correct. But llok at "which" in option B> iT doesnt refers to Nixon but "hearings"

This was another question from brutal SC discussed a few days back

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... rs+effects


Moral of the story: : "which" may not refer to the noun that immediately precedes it("which").

Just for all our consumption and please correct me if this is not correct :-D


this is the same confusion I have, which is supposed to be used as a non essential modifier, that modifies the noun immediately preceding it. This does not seem to be the case in the option stated. Any thoughts?!
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 02 Nov 2011, 00:40
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Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was


+1 for B. Subject Verb error addressed.
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 14 Nov 2011, 22:09
B because it corrects the SVA error. Also I think its more of an active voice which I read is preferred to passive.
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2011, 04:03
Ans B,

well explained by geturdream
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2011, 16:48
first split A, B, C won for parallelism

Barbara Jordan did xyz in B...WAY MORE ACTIVE than either A or C

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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 08 Feb 2012, 20:49
subject-Hearings should match with "were" and not was
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Some rules that pertain to the use of "WHICH" :

Rule 1 - "WHICH" should always refer to a NOUN. It MUST NOT refer to an idea of the preceeding clause.
E.g : He agreed to a compromise about the sum of money owed to him , which brought an end to the bitter fued.

This is WRONG.
"which" is trying to refer to the action of compromise. This is not allowed in La La GMAT land.


Rule 2 - "which" needs to be preceded by a comma (NO EXCEPTIONS. On the other hand "that" must not be preceded by a comma).

Rule 3 - "which" can sometimes jump over nouns that are embedded in prepositional phrases )

E.g : I bought a carved piece of wood, which was once used by King James. (CORRECT)
I bought a carved piece of wood in 2012, which was once used by King James (WRONG)
I bought a piece of furniture in 2012, which was the year that my daughter was born (CORRECT)


In the first example, the prepositional phrase "of wood" describes the "Carved piece" . Hence, the "which" is allowed to jump over the preceding noun,which is "wood".

In the second example, the prepositional phrase "in 2012" doesn't describe the piece of furniture. Instead the "2012" serves as extra information about the purchase.
Hence , "which" is NOT allowed to jump over 2012

Remember, these rules can be a little bit confusing. Just remember that sometimes "which" can jump over subjects in prepositional phrases. Then attack the answer choices
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2012, 06:47
Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was


2 Rules to be kept in mind

Rule 1 - Keep modifiers close to the thing that they are trying to modify
Although she "BLAH" BLAH BLAH, Barbara Jordan......until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon

[*]"Barbara Jordan" needs to be placed immediately after the first modifier that starts with "Although...."
[*]The modifier "when she participated ...blah blah blah " modifies 1974,,,,

Try to keep modifiers close to the things that they are trying to modify. Many times, if we compare the answer choices, we can see that modifiers are being moved around

Rule 2 - To determine the subject associated to [b]which , we have to identify the noun that "which" refers to [/b]
In this case, we have 3 prep phrases

[*]in the hearings
[*]on the impeachment
[*]of President nixon

Now the question is what "does" which refer to. Were the hearings televised nationwide ? or was the impeachment televised nationwide. ?

The which refers to "hearings", the other prep phrases describe the "hearings"

.....when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2012, 07:37
Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2012, 07:38
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@hafizkarim, you are absolutely right in terms of your understanding of "which" modifiers. In fact the fact that "which" modifier can modify slightly far away noun is something that students often ignore. I would suggest that people who are confused about this aspect of "which" modifiers and "other noun" modifiers as well read this article.

In this article we have included several more official sentences in which such modification works perfectly fine. Also, we have included cases in which such modification is not correct.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 06 Oct 2012, 06:35
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Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was


The sentence is fundamentally wrong because the part of the sentence before the first COMMA is talking about a person (SHE) being in the senate and in the house of representatives bla bla bla ... What should ideally follow after the comma should be the name of the person that the first part (before the comma) is referring to as ideally they should touch each other.

Going by this line of reasoning , we can eliminate A , C and D.

Focusing on the remaining two choices B and E , we can clearly see that E although partially correct ends with WAS TELEVISED .... , when we should ideally be using WERE TELEVISED because.. well we are talking about an event which took place earlier ... Therefore B is the only choice which meets both the criteria i.e. puts barbara follows the first comma , and ends the underlined portion with WERE ...
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 06 Oct 2012, 17:18
Wow, this is type of question which throws a lot of crap at you , until you read that hearings - > plural , so the last clause should be plural and bam you nailed it.
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2013, 23:05
Well this is the option B:-

later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were

After the 'when' in the sentence it is a beginning of a new clause hence new subject and a new verb.

Hence the sentence is like this:- She participated in the hearings - wherein hearings is the object of the sentence and 'on the impeachment of President RIchard Nixon' is modifying the hearings.

Hence, which were is the correct modifier for hearings and not Richard Nixon.

inmania is right, a small modifier or modifying phrase can be between two clauses.

That is known as the Mission Critical Modifier.

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Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was


B is correct.

The structure is:

Although she......................., ==> we must use Barbara after the comma ==> Narrow down to B & E.

E is wrong because of "then also later" is redundant.

Only B is correct
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Re: Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 14 May 2013, 01:37
Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was ( Referent to she is missing; In correct comparison(although x,y); it- hearings on impeachment - plural)
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were -- Correct
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was(Incorrect comparison [Although x,y];hearings on impeachment - plural)
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being(Incorrect comparison [Although x,y])
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was( hearings on impeachment - plural)

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