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Although she had been known as an effective legislator first [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 08:25
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Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 08:36
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I will go with B. It avoids the subject-verb error which other sentences have when using "was" with "hearings".
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 08:47
subhen wrote:
I will go with B. It avoids the subject-verb error which other sentences have when using "was" with "hearings".


Thanks, You are right, B!

I'm wondering why "NOT UNTIL" as in C is not the right answer... Anything remarkable about this idiom, or it's just the problem with the context that "not until" doesn't fit in?
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 08:58
This is a very good conceptual question guys.

OK option B is correct. But llok at "which" in option B> iT doesnt refers to Nixon but "hearings"

This was another question from brutal SC discussed a few days back

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... rs+effects


Moral of the story: : "which" may not refer to the noun that immediately precedes it("which").

Just for all our consumption and please correct me if this is not correct :-D
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 09:03
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subhen wrote:
I will go with B. It avoids the subject-verb error which other sentences have when using "was" with "hearings".


Thanks, You are right, B!

I'm wondering why "NOT UNTIL" as in C is not the right answer... Anything remarkable about this idiom, or it's just the problem with the context that "not until" doesn't fit in?



Bis fine, but in C the part staring with ..... with... a bit meaningless.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 06 May 2009, 16:17
Can anyone explain this answer?
I agree that which is referring to hearings but which were nationalized figure and then again using it for hearings?
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 07 May 2009, 20:43
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solidcolor wrote:
Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

A. later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was

B. later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were

C. later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was

D. then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being

E. then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was


"Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives" This modifier should refer to "Barbara Jordan" and therefore "Barbara Jordan" should immediately follow. Therefore A, C and E out. Between B and D, D was is incorrectly referring to hearings. so left with B
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 13 Oct 2009, 06:27
I still don't get this. Here is B written out as whole:

Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

I don't have an issue with which here. it has to refer to hearings because RN is a person. I have issue with the word figure. How is the "hearings of the impeachement were a nationally recognized figure" ?
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 13 Oct 2009, 06:35
I searched for this in another forum and here's a different version:

Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan's participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

This version made more sense to me because the underlining fits properly. Can anyone confirm that this is the correct version?
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 08:19
I went with B. But not sure about the role of which. How can it refer to a set of words instead of referring to just a preceding word? Could someone please explain?
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Re: [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 08:30
trivikram wrote:
This is a very good conceptual question guys.

OK option B is correct. But llok at "which" in option B> iT doesnt refers to Nixon but "hearings"

This was another question from brutal SC discussed a few days back

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... rs+effects


Moral of the story: : "which" may not refer to the noun that immediately precedes it("which").

Just for all our consumption and please correct me if this is not correct :-D


Exceptions to the Touch Rule
1) A mission-critical modifier falls between:

Right : He had a way OF DODGING OPPONENTS THAT IMPRESSED THE SCOUTS.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 08:52
Nice question.Few things tested.Got it correct too.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2010, 17:49
Went with option B. Learnt quite a bit on this thread :-D
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2010, 00:39
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Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was televised nationwide.

(A) later in the United States House of Representatives, not until Barbara Jordan’s participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon in 1974 was she made a nationally recognized figure, as it was
(B) later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were
(C) later in the Untied States House of Representatives, it was not until 1974 that Barbara Jordan became a nationally recognized figure, with her participation in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was
(D) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, not until 1974 did Barbara Jordan become a nationally recognized figure, as she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, being
(E) then also later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which was


The modifier is modifying Barbara, so eliminate A.
then also later is wordy So eliminate D and E
C has modifier issues.

B is correct
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2010, 00:58
All - Many thanks for the explanation.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2010, 06:49
Somehow, underlined words were different in the daily email than in this posting..that caused confusion..
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2010, 07:44
OA and its reasoning is very clear..... i would throw light on spotting error as fast as possible..

1) when confronted with lenthy sentences, split of answers is advisable because it takes time to fix up different dynamics of the lenthy sentences, so with first look itself discard last two options which include then also later.

2) with the leftovers, compare difference parts of the among themselves only without referring to sentence , it will give help you in spotting atleast one or two errors in the given choices which will give you last two choices.

3) now , you can compare two choices and take decision accordingly.

The above approach helps in solving the problem which are lenthy having differenct dynamics to be compared within one sentence.

I thought to share this approach since it helps me in reducing my time to reach to an answer while solving the lenthy SC questions.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2010, 20:24
I chose B since it had correct modifiers and subject-verb agreement.
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2010, 21:20
B

key was which were (B) and which was (C)
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Re: SC - "not until" [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2011, 18:07
B definitely... her name needs to come in after that second comma... to show who the pronoun "she" belongs to from the first clause.
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