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Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written [#permalink] New post 06 May 2009, 13:14
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Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.
B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.
E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.


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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 06 May 2009, 14:29
my initial answer is B, then started thinking more about D

would have picked B on the test, given time constraint
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 06 May 2009, 15:21
I will go with B, Can you please explain logic for D ?

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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 06 May 2009, 17:39
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Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.
B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.
E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.


please explain...


Yes, the first bold-face is also the argument and its intention is to assert that the Greek adopted alphabetic writing 2 earlier from 8 century B.C, so:
(C): 1st BF present evidence -->wrong

The second boldface has "would have" sounds like an assumption. Also:
- Because Greek learn alphabetic writing from Phoenician, hence adopting their using of direction writing, and because Phoenician use either directions --> Greek would have use either directions
- Because by 8 century B.C, Phoenician consistently wrote from right to left for about 2 centuries, then started to write either direction and because the evidence of earliest Greek inscription shows that they wrote in either direction --> earliest inscription of Greek couldn't appear at 8 century B.C but appear at 2 centuries earlier (in BC, the chronological is reverse) --> supporting the 1st BF

So:
(A): 2nd BF support a position that the argument oppose --> wrong
(D): 2nd BF is argument seeks to establish --> it is not an argument
(E): 2nd BF is evidence --> no

So B is the best choice
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 07 May 2009, 07:41
OA is B
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 28 Oct 2009, 23:26
neeshpal wrote:
Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.
B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies. Correct
C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.
E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.


please explain...

I chose B
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 14 May 2010, 01:10
OA is B.

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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 14 May 2010, 10:40
my pick is B.

how can it be D?

1) a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier.

2) they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing.

D says....The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

the first sentence is not making any objection....I think we need some expert opinion here.
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 14 May 2010, 20:42
OMG. The question having different bold faces in OG. Sorry for inconvenience.
OA is B.

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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 15 May 2010, 01:47
B is the best choice
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 18 May 2010, 02:08
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2011, 08:58
Can some one explain how B is the answer?
I always thought , an assumption is never given the question?
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2011, 09:12
I go with B

As first BF is the position which argument tries to establish & second Boldface provide why it adopted its style is 2 centuries before. So 2nd is assumption.
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2011, 04:23
E is the right answer
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2011, 08:46
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2011, 12:09
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Re: CR n- Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2011, 23:38
The best one I could pick is B. However, I am confused whether 'assumption' can be stated in the CR? Generally it is unstated premise..

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A deviant version of Greek Inscriptions [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2011, 01:55
Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenicians writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

(A)The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is that position.(B)The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which that argument relies.(C)The first is an assumption that the argument concludes is unjustified; the second presents part of the grounds for that conclusion.(D)The first is evidence that forms the basis for an objection to the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is that position.(E)The first is evidence that forms the basis for an objection to the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is a judgment that is introduced in order to call into question the relevance of that evidence.


I chose E why the hell is B?? Pls explain in details thank yoiu
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Re: Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written [#permalink] New post 02 Feb 2012, 09:09
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Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.
B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.
E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.

please explain...


I agree with the reasoning. I was also inclined to chose B, but didn't choose for the reason:
Assumptions are never cited in the passage. :shock:
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Re: Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2013, 20:56
The first bold faced argument is not a objection or a evidence so C, D, E are out.
The second bold faced statement "they would surely have adopted" indicates a assumption...
only choice b states the second bold faced statement as assumption...so IMO B

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