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Although the school board members agree there are substantial inefficiencies in the school budget and that the principal and other administrators should be paid less, it is difficult to garner enough interest and support in the community to implement the necessary changes.

A. Although the school board members agree

B. However much the school board members may agree that

C. Despite the school board members’ agreement about the fact that

D. Even though the school board members may agree

E. There is agreement among the school board members that
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Although the school board members agree there are substantial inefficiencies in the school budget and that the principal and other administrators should be paid less, it is difficult to garner enough interest and support in the community to implement the necessary changes.

A. Although the school board members agree

B. However much the school board members may agree that

C. Despite the school board members’ agreement about the fact that

D. Even though the school board members may agree

E. There is agreement among the school board members that

IMO, B is correct.

First, the structure should be parallel: agree that...............and that..........................
Down to B, C, E
B is correct because: The usage of "much" is correct, it does not mean how many members agree, but means how much members agree (much vs little)

C and E are wrong because they change meaning. The intended meaning here is "although......., it is difficult........"
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There is a substantial difference in meaning between' agree' and 'may agree'. Agree is sent per cent whereas may agree is not cent per cent. There is a significant shift of meaning from A to B and D. Hence IMO, B and D are infidel and incorrect. C is meandering and wordy. E is a run-on. A is the best.
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03 May 2013, 03:07
I have a lot of concern about this question because in formal english is difficult to have a word such as HOWEVER in the beginning of a sentence. Moreover, the same is always after a full stop and followed by a comma.

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If ‘however’ is used to begin a sentence, it must be followed by a comma, and what
appears after the comma must be a complete sentence.

However, there was no need to repeat the data entry.

Keep the use of sentences beginning with ‘however’ to a minimum. Overuse makes
‘however’ look more important than the content of the sentence. It may also result in
sentence fragments.

FRAGMENT — However, life in Ancient Egypt three thousand years ago.

REVISED — However, life in Ancient Egypt three thousand years agowas much more sophisticated.

A sentence beginning with ‘however,’ is usually closely related to the sentence which
precedes it. In most cases, it is more appropriate to use ‘however’ to form a
compound sentence.

http://www.sonoma.edu/users/f/farahman/ ... owever.pdf

I have never see such construction on gmat
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03 May 2013, 04:28
Couldn't agree any less with Carcass.
Though between the given choices, B and C are close. C distorts meaning, thus B is the best, but I am not convinced with the use of However

Also Daagh, the first D/C starting with Although - will it not required "that" - I picked B and C considering this, though of course there are other errors in other choices.
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05 May 2013, 23:14
Received a PM about this question. This question is based on OG VR2 Question #3. So please attempt the official question and understand the correct and incorrect choices in the official question. Once you have understood the essence of the official question, you may not worry about this one.

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06 May 2013, 23:20
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I agree with you, It would be ideally parallel to have another that after the DC. But none of the good choices has it. Those that have that are problematic both in usage and grammar. Something is odd here . Verita’s examples seem to be in bind and frustrating.
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Responding to a PM on this question. The use of 'however' at the beginning of the sentence is an uncommon but acceptable use of however. In English, sentences can begin with 'however' + ',' to transition from one sentence to another: "I love riding my bike to work. However, I can't ride today because it is raining." The word 'however' in the example above gives the reader an indication that the 2nd sentence will work in opposition to the 1st sentence. Because this use case for 'however' shows a distinction between an earlier and later part, we don't see however used this way at the beginning of a sentence on the GMAT.

The use of 'however' in this GMAT question, however, [I couldn't help but stick this however in my post to show a comparison between what I said earlier and what I'm about to say] is to show the relative unimportance of magnitude. It's not really 'however' but rather 'however much'. You could state this phrase, 'however much', another way by saying 'regardless of how much': "Regardless of how much the school board members may agree that there are substantial inefficiencies in..." It's a use case that we don't see very often, but it is an appropriate use of however at the beginning of a sentence on the GMAT.

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07 May 2013, 10:28
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Received a PM about this question. This question is based on OG VR2 Question #3. So please attempt the official question and understand the correct and incorrect choices in the official question. Once you have understood the essence of the official question, you may not worry about this one.

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Hi Payal,
Answer to this qs should be B.
And OG VR2 Question #3- OA :A

'However much' implies 'No matter how much'...Let me know if my understanding and explanation are correct.

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07 May 2013, 22:09
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Although the school board members agree there are substantial inefficiencies in the school budget and that the principal and other administrators should be paid less, it is difficult to garner enough interest and support in the community to implement the necessary changes.

A. Although the school board members agree

B. However much the school board members may agree that

C. Despite the school board members’ agreement about the fact that

D. Even though the school board members may agree

E. There is agreement among the school board members that

Hi all,

in my opinion OPTION B is the best of all...

==>firstly for parallelism THAT is MUST..
therefore option A and D are OUT.
E==> RUN ON
C==>changes the meaning.
AND we cannot say that option B is a TYPO.....(MAY is not a typo)...the use of MUCH in OPTION B clearly indicates....MAY is required...so i will say B is the BEST OF LOT.(may makes it noun countable)

hope it helps.

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Although the school board members agree there are substantial inefficiencies in the school budget and that the principal and other administrators should be paid less, it is difficult to garner enough interest and support in the community to implement the necessary changes.

A. Although the school board members agree

B. However much the school board members may agree that

C. Despite the school board members’ agreement about the fact that

D. Even though the school board members may agree

E. There is agreement among the school board members that

The parallelism removes the answer choices A, D
C, E change the meaning of the sentence,

The only answer choice left over is B, hence the answer cannot be anything but B
We need to find the best option of the provided on the GMAT not the correct sentence
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13 May 2013, 08:50
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egmat wrote:
Received a PM about this question. This question is based on OG VR2 Question #3. So please attempt the official question and understand the correct and incorrect choices in the official question. Once you have understood the essence of the official question, you may not worry about this one.

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Hi Payal,
Answer to this qs should be B.
And OG VR2 Question #3- OA :A

'However much' implies 'No matter how much'...Let me know if my understanding and explanation are correct.

Hey Payal,
Can you please confirm my answer to your question and let me know whether the above explanation is correct..?
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According to what most of you has been saying, option C, "Despite the school board members’ agreement about the fact that", changes the meaning. I'm not able to understand why...

On the other side, option B, "However much the school board members may agree that", seems wordy, I personally don't like the However in the beginning of the sentence (without any other sentence before) and it seems to distort what is said in A.

If we were to correct option A, it would say: "Although the school board members agree that", it does not say "may agree that". And is different to say that "they agree with X" or "they may agree with X"...

So, can anyone help me to understand how come B be the correct answer and how does C changes the meaning of what is said?

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18 Nov 2015, 08:39
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According to what most of you has been saying, option C, "Despite the school board members’ agreement about the fact that", changes the meaning. I'm not able to understand why...

On the other side, option B, "However much the school board members may agree that", seems wordy, I personally don't like the However in the beginning of the sentence (without any other sentence before) and it seems to distort what is said in A.

If we were to correct option A, it would say: "Although the school board members agree that", it does not say "may agree that". And is different to say that "they agree with X" or "they may agree with X"...

So, can anyone help me to understand how come B be the correct answer and how does C changes the meaning of what is said?

Thank you!

As for C, the problem really isn't a change in meaning. For meaning questions we aren't looking for a change in meaning from the original - we are looking for illogical vs. logical meaning. The problem with C is wordiness/awkwardness. The meaning is conveyed more clearly and directly in A/B.

Answer choice A would be fine if we included the word "that".

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