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Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth
B. its horny jaws function for teeth
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth

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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 11 Aug 2009, 18:09
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Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth
B. its horny jaws function for teeth
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth

explain your choices ..


I believe the correct idiom is function as... so a,b, and c are out
Between D&E, D changes the meaning to say that the jaws perform the same functions as teeth do (the jaws chew), whereas E retains the original meaning that the jaws act as teeth -> so E
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The correct idiom is 'function AS.' Eliminate (A) and (B).

(C) is incorrect because 'its' (a pronoun referring to the singular case) incorrectly refers to plural 'turtle species.'

(E) omits the verb 'function.' Because of the preposition 'AS', we are comparing verbs. The sentence should read "their horny jaws function as teeth function.' In standard English, you do not repeat the verb, but instead replace it with the 'do.'

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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 11 Aug 2009, 22:57
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Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth ...function for is incorrect
B. its horny jaws function for teeth ...function for is incorrect
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth..
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth...corrrect..here as is used ...in the capacity of...or in the role of....

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Agree with you, 'as' here is used for 'in the capacity of'
IMO E.
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The correct idiom is 'function AS.' Eliminate (A) and (B).

(C) is incorrect because 'its' (a pronoun referring to the singular case) incorrectly refers to plural 'turtle species.'

(E) omits the verb 'function.' Because of the preposition 'AS', we are comparing verbs. The sentence should read "their horny jaws function as teeth function.' In standard English, you do not repeat the verb, but instead replace it with the 'do.'

Therefore, (D) is the answer.


Hi folks,

I’m afraid the correct answer for this one is choice E and not choice D.

Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.

Per the context of the sentence, it is not difficult to understand that here turtle’s “horny jaws” are NOT compared to “teeth”. The horny jaws actually play the role/function of teeth. Hence, this sentence presents function of horny jaws.

PoE:

A. their horny jaws function for teeth: Incorrect.
1. Plural pronoun “their” does not agree in number with singular “turtle”.
2. Use of “for” is incorrect.

B. its horny jaws function for teeth: Incorrect. Use of “for” is unidiomatic.

C. its horny jaws function as do teeth: Incorrect. Notice that “as” is followed by a clause here, presenting comparison. This is not correct because the sentence does not compare the horny jaws with teeth.

D the horny jaws function as teeth do: Incorrect. Same as choice C.

E the horny jaws function as teeth: Correct. When “as” is used to present role/function of something/someone, it is followed by a noun entity. Here “as” is correctly followed by noun entity “teeth”. Hence, this is the correct answer.

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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 19 Mar 2013, 11:32
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Almost convinced :) Thanks Shardhha..!

But...still a little doubt left-don't you think that here we are comparing the functions (of teeth and that of sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws) ?

P.S: Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Really appreciate your reply as always!


Hi Debayan,

Let's take a very basic example here:

I work as a GMAT expert with e-gmat.

Here, I am not compared to a GMAT expert. I am a GMAT expert. I function in the capacity of a GMAT expert.

In the very same way, the official sentence does not compare the "sharp abd jagged edges" with "teeth". It says that these "sharp and jagged edges" functions as "teeth". These edges themselves are the teeth in turtle. There is no question of any comparison here.

Hope this helps. :)
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 11 Aug 2009, 18:33
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Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws [strike]function for[/strike] teeth
B. its horny jaws [strike]function for[/strike] teeth
C. its horny jaws function [strike]as do[/strike] teeth
D the horny jaws function [strike]as teeth do[/strike]
E the horny jaws function as teeth

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Question - between their and its... what would have been used ?
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 11 Aug 2009, 22:48
I go with E.

B and C are out because the sentence mentions in some species... Hence its more appropriate to use 'the'.
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 11 Aug 2009, 23:00
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ugimba wrote:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws [strike]function for[/strike] teeth
B. its horny jaws [strike]function for[/strike] teeth
C. its horny jaws function [strike]as do[/strike] teeth
D the horny jaws function [strike]as teeth do[/strike]
E the horny jaws function as teeth

explain your choices ..


Question - between their and its... what would have been used ?


I think 'their' would be correct as subject is plural in the second clause.
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 12 Aug 2009, 05:36
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ugimba wrote:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth
B. its horny jaws function for teeth
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth

explain your choices ..


I believe the correct idiom is function as... so a,b, and c are out
Between D&E, D changes the meaning to say that the jaws perform the same functions as teeth do (the jaws chew), whereas E retains the original meaning that the jaws act as teeth -> so E

agree ..OA is E ..

but what if my intension was to just compare the function(as it did in option D)? how/what is the correct way to write that sentence?
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 12 Aug 2009, 23:58
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ugimba wrote:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth
B. its horny jaws function for teeth
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth

explain your choices ..


I believe the correct idiom is function as... so a,b, and c are out
Between D&E, D changes the meaning to say that the jaws perform the same functions as teeth do (the jaws chew), whereas E retains the original meaning that the jaws act as teeth -> so E


Agree with the explanation . E it is
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 13 Aug 2009, 20:21
ugimba wrote:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth
B. its horny jaws function for teeth
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth

explain your choices ..


Second sentence refers to turtle species so B and C are out due to "its"
function for is not correct so A is out.
D has parrallel problem. What does teeth do?
E is correct. In some turtle species the sharp and edges of their jaws function as teeth.
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Re: SC: turtle species [#permalink] New post 10 Dec 2012, 10:03
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ugimba wrote:
Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.
A. their horny jaws function for teeth
B. its horny jaws function for teeth
C. its horny jaws function as do teeth
D the horny jaws function as teeth do
E the horny jaws function as teeth

explain your choices ..


I believe the correct idiom is function as... so a,b, and c are out
Between D&E, D changes the meaning to say that the jaws perform the same functions as teeth do (the jaws chew), whereas E retains the original meaning that the jaws act as teeth -> so E

agree ..OA is E ..

but what if my intension was to just compare the function(as it did in option D)? how/what is the correct way to write that sentence?


the horny jaws function as the teeth of other animals do
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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2013, 17:05
E is correct.
"As" functions as "similar to" in this option.
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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 17 Mar 2013, 18:00
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ChrisLele wrote:
The correct idiom is 'function AS.' Eliminate (A) and (B).

(C) is incorrect because 'its' (a pronoun referring to the singular case) incorrectly refers to plural 'turtle species.'

(E) omits the verb 'function.' Because of the preposition 'AS', we are comparing verbs. The sentence should read "their horny jaws function as teeth function.' In standard English, you do not repeat the verb, but instead replace it with the 'do.'

Therefore, (D) is the answer.


Hi folks,

I’m afraid the correct answer for this one is choice E and not choice D.

Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.

Per the context of the sentence, it is not difficult to understand that here turtle’s “horny jaws” are NOT compared to “teeth”. The horny jaws actually play the role/function of teeth. Hence, this sentence presents function of horny jaws.

PoE:

A. their horny jaws function for teeth: Incorrect.
1. Plural pronoun “they” does not agree in number with singular “turtle”.
2. Use of “for” is incorrect.

B. its horny jaws function for teeth: Incorrect. Use of “for” is unidiomatic.

C. its horny jaws function as do teeth: Incorrect. Notice that “as” is followed by a clause here, presenting comparison. This is not correct because the sentence does not compare the horny jaws with teeth.

D the horny jaws function as teeth do: Incorrect. Same as choice C.

E the horny jaws function as teeth: Correct. When “as” is used to present role/function of something/someone, it is followed by a noun entity. Here “as” is correctly followed by noun entity “teeth”. Hence, this is the correct answer.

P.S: To be able to get rid of the confusion of when to use “as” and when to use “like”, read the article by clicking on the following link:
as-vs-like-correct-and-incorrect-usages-133950.html

Also. At e-gmat, we have 4 dedicated “In-depth” concepts for this topic with many exercise questions. In fact, “Usage of Like” features in our free concepts level – Level 1 Preview Concepts. Just log in to e-gmat.com, register for FREE and learn the concept.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Hi Egmat,

Is species singular or plural?

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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 18 Mar 2013, 04:52
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Is species singular or plural?

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Hi Srinath,

The word "species" is the singular as well as the plural. It can be used as both.

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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 19 Mar 2013, 09:57
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ChrisLele wrote:
The correct idiom is 'function AS.' Eliminate (A) and (B).

(C) is incorrect because 'its' (a pronoun referring to the singular case) incorrectly refers to plural 'turtle species.'

(E) omits the verb 'function.' Because of the preposition 'AS', we are comparing verbs. The sentence should read "their horny jaws function as teeth function.' In standard English, you do not repeat the verb, but instead replace it with the 'do.'

Therefore, (D) is the answer.


Hi folks,

I’m afraid the correct answer for this one is choice E and not choice D.

Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 million years, in some contemporary turtle species the moderately sharp and jagged edges of their horny jaws function for teeth.

Per the context of the sentence, it is not difficult to understand that here turtle’s “horny jaws” are NOT compared to “teeth”. The horny jaws actually play the role/function of teeth. Hence, this sentence presents function of horny jaws.

PoE:

A. their horny jaws function for teeth: Incorrect.
1. Plural pronoun “their” does not agree in number with singular “turtle”.
2. Use of “for” is incorrect.

B. its horny jaws function for teeth: Incorrect. Use of “for” is unidiomatic.

C. its horny jaws function as do teeth: Incorrect. Notice that “as” is followed by a clause here, presenting comparison. This is not correct because the sentence does not compare the horny jaws with teeth.

D the horny jaws function as teeth do: Incorrect. Same as choice C.

E the horny jaws function as teeth: Correct. When “as” is used to present role/function of something/someone, it is followed by a noun entity. Here “as” is correctly followed by noun entity “teeth”. Hence, this is the correct answer.

P.S: To be able to get rid of the confusion of when to use “as” and when to use “like”, read the article by clicking on the following link:
as-vs-like-correct-and-incorrect-usages-133950.html

Also. At e-gmat, we have 4 dedicated “In-depth” concepts for this topic with many exercise questions. In fact, “Usage of Like” features in our free concepts level – Level 1 Preview Concepts. Just log in to e-gmat.com, register for FREE and learn the concept.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Hi Shraddha,
I think that here we are comparing the moderately sharp and jagged edges(say,X) of the horny jaws(say,Y) function as teeth do. X of Y-then X is the subject I guess.So here the sharp and jagged edges work as the teeth do.(Not comparing the horny jaws with teeth)

Then would you please elaborate why D is wrong ?

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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 19 Mar 2013, 10:21
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Hi Shraddha,
I think that here we are comparing the moderately sharp and jagged edges(say,X) of the horny jaws(say,Y) function as teeth do. X of Y-then X is the subject I guess.So here the sharp and jagged edges work as the teeth do.(Not comparing the horny jaws with teeth)

Then would you please elaborate why D is wrong ?

Much help appreciated.



Hi Debayan,

Even if we say that the sharp and jagged edged of the horny jaws and not the horny jaws act as teeth, the main flaw in choice D is that per that choice "sharp and jagged edges" are compared to "teeth". The intent of the question is not to show comparison. The intent of the sentence is to show function. When we need to show function using "as", we must put just the noun after "as" and not the clause. The moment we put a clause after "as", it presents compariosn and not the function.

In choice D, "as" is followed by a clause "teeth do" and hence presents comparison. Choice E corrects that error by placing just noun after "as" to present the function correctly.

Hope this helps. :)
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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 19 Mar 2013, 10:48
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Hi Shraddha,
I think that here we are comparing the moderately sharp and jagged edges(say,X) of the horny jaws(say,Y) function as teeth do. X of Y-then X is the subject I guess.So here the sharp and jagged edges work as the teeth do.(Not comparing the horny jaws with teeth)

Then would you please elaborate why D is wrong ?

Much help appreciated.



Hi Debayan,

Even if we say that the sharp and jagged edged of the horny jaws and not the horny jaws act as teeth, the main flaw in choice D is that per that choice "sharp and jagged edges" are compared to "teeth". The intent of the question is not to show comparison. The intent of the sentence is to show function. When we need to show function using "as", we must put just the noun after "as" and not the clause. The moment we put a clause after "as", it presents compariosn and not the function.

In choice D, "as" is followed by a clause "teeth do" and hence presents comparison. Choice E corrects that error by placing just noun after "as" to present the function correctly.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Almost convinced :) Thanks Shardhha..!

But...still a little doubt left-don't you think that here we are comparing the functions (of teeth and that of sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws) ?

P.S: Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Really appreciate your reply as always!
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Re: Although the turtle has been toothless for more than 150 [#permalink] New post 20 Mar 2013, 07:37
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debayan222 wrote:
Almost convinced :) Thanks Shardhha..!

But...still a little doubt left-don't you think that here we are comparing the functions (of teeth and that of sharp and jagged edges of the horny jaws) ?

P.S: Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Really appreciate your reply as always!


Hi Debayan,

Let's take a very basic example here:

I work as a GMAT expert with e-gmat.

Here, I am not compared to a GMAT expert. I am a GMAT expert. I function in the capacity of a GMAT expert.

In the very same way, the official sentence does not compare the "sharp abd jagged edges" with "teeth". It says that these "sharp and jagged edges" functions as "teeth". These edges themselves are the teeth in turtle. There is no question of any comparison here.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Shraddha-Thanks a lot for the detail clarification and patience of course :) Kudos...

It's clear now however,can we think like that "Is it because of the fact that as the presence of teeth is virtual in this case so we're not doing the comparison of functions actually...?

Just curious to know whether I'm thinking in a proper way you know !
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