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Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid
in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking
her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank
her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking
her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her
for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 05:30
E sounds better to me. "asking the goddess' aid to heal..." seems better than "asking the goddess' aid in healing..."
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 05:41
E

A - "in healing" sounds wrong
B,c - and is not correct; either requires or
D - to parallel 'asking' we need 'thanking' here and not 'to thank'

Probably, someone should give a better explanation with examples about "in healing" and why it is wrong(if).
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 05:48
I can partially explain it with examples:
I ask Peter to help me with my homework
I ask Peter in helping me with my homework
"to ask" is a request and the right way to say it is "to ask someone to"
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Re: ....and one more SC [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 08:25
pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid
in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking
her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank
her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking
her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her
for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help


A is best.

aid in is better usage for situations meaning seeking help.
aid to --- reminds me of monetary help.

Of course, either....or is the correct idiom.


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Re: ....and one more SC [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 08:42
praetorian123 wrote:
pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid
in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking
her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank
her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking
her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her
for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help


A is best.

aid in is better usage for situations meaning seeking help.
aid to --- reminds me of monetary help.

Of course, either....or is the correct idiom.


praetorian


Thx praetorian. So "aid" was the key word as to why "helping" is an "ing" word. My explanation omitted "aid". Nice question by the way pusht
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Re: ....and one more SC [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 08:58
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Thx praetorian. So "aid" was the key word as to why "helping" is an "ing" word. My explanation omitted "aid". Nice question by the way pusht
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well, this was about the correct usage.

i dont think "aid " plays a role in deciding whether its helping or not.
the preposition and infinitive are responsible for "helping" and "to help" respectively.

Most tough questions will be more about usage.

IMO, In most of the cases, Idioms will help us to narrow down the choices. after that, the devil is in the details. We need to read the SC carefully to notice such subte points.

did it help , paul?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 09:25
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i dont think "aid " plays a role in deciding whether its helping or not.
the preposition and infinitive are responsible for "helping" and "to help" respectively.

I'm not sure what you mean by preposition and infinitive... which preposition and infinitive?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 09:30
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i dont think "aid " plays a role in deciding whether its helping or not.
the preposition and infinitive are responsible for "helping" and "to help" respectively.

I'm not sure what you mean by preposition and infinitive... which preposition and infinitive?


Sorry , i dont think i made it clear.

preposition : in + helping

infinitive : to + help

i was trying to say that... aid has nothing to do with why helping is used...

clear now??
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 10:06
Understood Praet. But what made you choose "in helping" over "to help"?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 11:12
Paul wrote:
Understood Praet. But what made you choose "in helping" over "to help"?



Aid to: Overwhelmingly used to ask money (eg, for funding a project )

here the context demands "aid in"

better?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 11:27
praetorian123 wrote:
Paul wrote:
Understood Praet. But what made you choose "in helping" over "to help"?



Aid to: Overwhelmingly used to ask money (eg, for funding a project )

here the context demands "aid in"

better?

Awesome! Now it's 100% clear. You sure are a helping hand to this forum!
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Mar 2004, 11:30
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praetorian123 wrote:
Paul wrote:
Understood Praet. But what made you choose "in helping" over "to help"?



Aid to: Overwhelmingly used to ask money (eg, for funding a project )

here the context demands "aid in"

better?

Awesome! Now it's 100% clear. You sure are a helping hand to this forum!


I am just paying it forward. :)

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Re: ....and one more SC [#permalink] New post 03 Aug 2004, 17:02
pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid
in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking
her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank
her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking
her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her
for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help



I have gone through the entire thread and explanation presented by Praet and Paul. I think that the answer is A but there is a typo.

The sentence should read as follows:

Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking (for) the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


for should be present in the sentence. Without "for", the noun "the goddess Bona Dea's aid" will be interpreted as "the goddess Bona Dea's assistant" ("aid" means assistant also).

For example
I am asking for your help in resolving this problem
I am asking your help in resolving this problem (this sentence does not seem correct)


But that is no true. Because the end of the sentenc mentions "such help". That means the noun "the goddess Bona Dea's aid" has to be interpreted as "the goddess Bona Dea's help"
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 [#permalink] New post 04 Aug 2004, 08:56
Got it A.

The think the tense consistency is important here. It would be correct is it was "asked the aid to heal..."
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Re: ....and one more SC [#permalink] New post 04 Aug 2004, 10:16
gmatblast wrote:
pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid
in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking
her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank
her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking
her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her
for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help



I have gone through the entire thread and explanation presented by Praet and Paul. I think that the answer is A but there is a typo.

The sentence should read as follows:

Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking (for) the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


for should be present in the sentence. Without "for", the noun "the goddess Bona Dea's aid" will be interpreted as "the goddess Bona Dea's assistant" ("aid" means assistant also).

For example
I am asking for your help in resolving this problem
I am asking your help in resolving this problem (this sentence does not seem correct)


But that is no true. Because the end of the sentenc mentions "such help". That means the noun "the goddess Bona Dea's aid" has to be interpreted as "the goddess Bona Dea's help"


Good point. But Choice A does not have a typo because the error is not in the underlined part of the sentence.
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Re: ....and one more SC [#permalink] New post 04 Aug 2004, 10:37
Praetorian wrote:
gmatblast wrote:
pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid
in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking
her for such help
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank
her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking
her for helping
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her
for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help



I have gone through the entire thread and explanation presented by Praet and Paul. I think that the answer is A but there is a typo.

The sentence should read as follows:

Among the objects found in the excavated temple
were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants
who were either asking (for) the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her
for such help.


for should be present in the sentence. Without "for", the noun "the goddess Bona Dea's aid" will be interpreted as "the goddess Bona Dea's assistant" ("aid" means assistant also).

For example
I am asking for your help in resolving this problem
I am asking your help in resolving this problem (this sentence does not seem correct)


But that is no true. Because the end of the sentenc mentions "such help". That means the noun "the goddess Bona Dea's aid" has to be interpreted as "the goddess Bona Dea's help"


Good point. But Choice A does not have a typo because the error is not in the underlined part of the sentence.


I did not say that the typo is in choice A. Please see the question I repeated in my post. "for" is not the part of choice A.

All I am saying is that UN-LINED portion of the sentence should have "for" in order to make choice A more appropriate.
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 [#permalink] New post 06 Aug 2004, 07:27
A is right because of parallel structure (healing and thanking)
E is not because it does not preserve parallelism.
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