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07 Apr 2011, 10:43
A, idiom and tense structure together eliminate all other choices
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08 Apr 2011, 12:43
I got it wrong
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09 Apr 2011, 21:52
A for me! attempt to is the key here..E seems too awkward..has begun is incorrect (Past Perfect is always Had + Past Participle)
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12 May 2011, 08:27
A. The expression is usually an "attempt to". The rest have incorrect idioms.
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A..
But the question seems very un-gmat like!
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Re: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun [#permalink]
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Idiom: is it attempt to, attempt for, or attempt at? Here it is "Attempt to", so eliminate B, C, and D.
In E, present perfect is the wrong verb tense to use, despite its apparent consistency with "has been unsuccessful". Present perfect is typically used for actions that began in the past and continue into the present. It can also be used to specify a past event at an indefinite point in the past. Here, the "two decades ago" makes present perfect an incorrect tense. Consider "I have lived in New York five years ago." -- doesn't sound right and it isn't right.
So The correct answer is A.
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Re: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun [#permalink]
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Hi All, An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women. I would like to begin this post with a word of caution. This sentence is not structured in the most appropriate manner to adhere with the GMAT standards. Many of you may ask and have actually asked that the way verb-ed modifier “begun” has been placed, it can also modify “Equal Rights Amendment”. “begun” is a noun modifier and hence this confusion is unavoidable. So just solve this question and move on. PoE(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,: This is the correct answer choice. (B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment: Since the purpose of the attempt is to ratify the amendment, we must use to + verb form here. “for ratifying” is not appropriate. (C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago: Same error as in choice B. (D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,: Same reason as for choices B and C. “at ratifying” to the show the purpose is not appropriate. (E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment: This choice a verb tense issue. Notice the main verb “has been unsuccessful”. This means that the attempt started in the past and showed some result in the present. Hence, present perfect “has begun” is incorrect. Take this sentence for example: The project that started two years ago has been successful. (Correct) The project that has started two years ago has been successful. (Incorrect) We know that the attempt to ratify the amendment has been unsuccessful. Here, we are talking about the attempt that started two years back and now has been unsuccessful. Hope this helps. Shraddha
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Re: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun [#permalink]
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I Agree!! Even i spent some 30 odd seconds looking at A, after having cancelled the others, just because the modifier didnt look right to me. BUT as they say, "which one is a the best among all". The best among the 5 options is A. Lets look at them one by one.
An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women. (A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, (Attempt to ratify is the correct idiom. I agree that begun almost...seems to modify the amendment. But before cancelling this one out, lets look at others.) (B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment (attempt for ratifying isnt the correct idiom. The modifier is placed correctly though. If this sentence had to ratify, i would have picked this one.) (C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago (Attempt for ratitying is inidiomatic) (D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, (attempt at ratifying isnt correct. Someone asked "my attempt at GMAT is correct, so why is attempt at ratifying not?". Ratify is a verb whereas GMAT, which is an exam, is a noun. Try to make a sentence using my attempt at <verb>. EXPERTS, PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.) (E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment (Has begun is present perfect tense, and therefore cannot be true in this context. Rather a simple past tense would work.)
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Re: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun [#permalink]
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egmat wrote: Hi All, An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women. I would like to begin this post with a word of caution. This sentence is not structured in the most appropriate manner to adhere with the GMAT standards. Many of you may ask and have actually asked that the way verb-ed modifier “begun” has been placed, it can also modify “Equal Rights Amendment”. “begun” is a noun modifier and hence this confusion is unavoidable. So just solve this question and move on. PoE(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,: This is the correct answer choice. (B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment: Since the purpose of the attempt is to ratify the amendment, we must use to + verb form here. “for ratifying” is not appropriate. (C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago: Same error as in choice B. (D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,: Same reason as for choices B and C. “at ratifying” to the show the purpose is not appropriate. (E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment: This choice a verb tense issue. Notice the main verb “has been unsuccessful”. This means that the attempt started in the past and showed some result in the present. Hence, present perfect “has begun” is incorrect. Take this sentence for example: The project that started two years ago has been successful. (Correct) The project that has started two years ago has been successful. (Incorrect) We know that the attempt to ratify the amendment has been unsuccessful. Here, we are talking about the attempt that started two years back and now has been unsuccessful. Hope this helps. Shraddha I will have to agree with this comment. It is not a very well constructed question, not atleast for the GMAT. I wonder if there is much value in studying it
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Re: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun [#permalink]
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Correct usage of "attempt" is attempt + to + verbA) Grammatically and idiomatically correct. B) " for ratifying" is incorrect. C) " for ratifying" is incorrect. D) " at ratifying" is incorrect. E) " has begun" is used incorrectly making two events disjoint. The structure " An attempt that has begun two decades ago, has been unsuccessful" is incorrect. Correct form will be " An attempt that begun two decades ago, has been unsuccessful". Correct answer is A.
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This question is not well-constructed. It is better to stay away from the questions from dubious sources.
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Re: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun [#permalink]
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Economist wrote: An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.
(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, (B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment (C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago (D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, (E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment
SCtest3-15 attempt takes to / for with verb/noun, so this rule can eliminate B, C, D but in case for A/ E how can we eliminate E ?? please explain .... what difference does has begun/ begun bring to this sentence ?? begun is past and has begun is present perfect ? if so why do we prefer past ?? please explain ....................
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