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Ancient Celtic legend holds that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise as king again. (A) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise (B) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising (C) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising (D) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, to arise (E) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise
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Good question Mike! Here is my analysis somewhat: Ancient Celtic legend holds that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise as king again. (A) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise this sentence is the least ambiguous and structurally kosher.  (B) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising the use of present participle "arising" is inappropriate here as it seems to modify the phrase "in some future time of need"  (C) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising this option is ambiguous, for in using the infinitive, we do not know in what time context Arthur was/is king. It also has the "arising" issue found in B. (D) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, to arise once again, the time context is ambiguous. (E) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise[/quote] same issue as above
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macjas wrote: Good question Mike! Here is my analysis somewhat: Ancient Celtic legend holds that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise as king again. (A) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise this sentence is the least ambiguous and structurally kosher. (B) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising the use of present participle "arising" is inappropriate here as it seems to modify the phrase "in some future time of need" (C) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising this option is ambiguous, for in using the infinitive, we do not know in what time context Arthur was/is king. It also has the "arising" issue found in B. (D) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, to arise once again, the time context is ambiguous. (E) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise [/quote] In "D" how come the time context is ambiguous. The sentence clearly says "at one time". What's wrong with D?
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dheerajv wrote: In "D" how come the time context is ambiguous. The sentence clearly says "at one time". What's wrong with D? Hi Dheeraj, to me somehow using the construct "to be" implies something universal. "xxx is" or "xxx was" puts things in the perspective of time. This is at least how I understand it. Experts please correct me if I am wrong
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mikemcgarry wrote: Ancient Celtic legend holds that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise as king again. (A) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise(B) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising(C) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising(D) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, to arise(E) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise Mike, I always love your questions you post and find them very helpful, but I do not find this one to be of a great difficulty is it really considered 700? I did it in about 25 secs, it has very easy splits. First off we need the "That" because we are talking about the thought/ theory/ idea about "the mythical figure" and not the mythical figure itself. Second, again we need the idea that king Arthur will arise and come back not that he actually will be arising and coming back.
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(A) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise ---- the first part of the sub-clause is a clause with a verb and the second one too is similar(B) that the mythical figure of Arthur was at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising --- the two parts are not parallel. Arising renders the second part into a phrase; wrong (C) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, arising ---- same as B; wrong (D) The mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, to arise; to be denotes timelessness, or even contemporariness, which it is not. Past tense was is the appropriate in this case. same thing what macjas has pointed out (E) the mythical figure of Arthur to be at one time king of all of England and, in some future time of need, will arise--- t he first part is a phrase and the second part is a clause; wrong
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A is right..holds that and parallelsim are the keys
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Ancient Celtic legend holds that the mythical figure ofArthur was at one time king of all of England and,in some future time of need, will arise as king again.
Intent of the sent : Ancient legend holds 2 things ...............1. X was the king at one time................AND.................. 2. X will arise as king again in the future
Vertical scan reveals : A n somewhat D to fit the equation ( maintaining parallelism )
A : Legend holds THAT...........Arthur WAS the king.......................AND......................WILL ARISE as king again.
D : Legend holds Arthur TO BE at one time king .............AND............... TO ARISE as king again ( TO BE form..........timeless verbs doesn't reveal the timeframe when the action took place ) = So not a proper choice = Eliminated
Furthermore THAT in A = cements its choice over D.
Leading to A = my take
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geno5 wrote: Mike,
I always love your questions you post and find them very helpful, but I do not find this one to be of a great difficulty is it really considered 700? I did it in about 25 secs, it has very easy splits. Thank you for your kind words. To be honest, I am more or less guessing in the dark when I estimate the difficulty of a question I have just written. It's always hard to gauge what will seem obvious and what folks will find tricky. Mike
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Thanks for the question. I overlooked A and chose D, despite the ambiguity in time. I really was not sure on whether the usage of "holds that" is correct.
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TO BE is most often then not is an incorrect choice (please correct me if i am wrong) , therefore , C / D/E are out.
B is wrong due to the use to "ARISING"
Correct Ans : - A
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