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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Apr 2014, 18:21
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1) Haas (Part-time) vs 2) Anderson (Full-time) vs 3) Reapplying next year

(This is going to be a long post. Please bear with me. Your inputs to help me make this crucial decision would be highly appreciated.)

I am glad to be selected to Haas EWMBA program and Anderson full-time (with $50K fellowship) program. I am trying to figure out the pros and cons of the two programs. I am also considering skipping this year and applying full-fledged next year.

Given below are the details about my profile and plans.

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Bachelors: Civil Engineering, IIT Madras, GPA: 7.32/10,
Masters: Transportation Engineering, Texas A&M University, GPA 3.9/4.0

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CFA Level 3 Candidate.
Professional Engineer, State of California.
Graduate Certificate in Business, Mays Business School, Texas A&M University


Work experience details:
5.5 years with California Department of Transportation. Worked in different engineering roles for the first 3 years. Working with project management division (present role - Assistant Project Manager) for the last 2.5 years.


Post-MBA plans:

Path A: Would like to move into management consulting in firms like PWC, Bain, and KPMG. Prefer to work in infrastructure management and PPP (Public-Private Partnership) roles, but open to explore other areas too.

Path B: In my present job in project management I spend a significant amount of time on data-analytics. Along with Infrastructure Industry, Data Analytics is my passion. If I chose this path, ultimately, I would like to set up my own data-analytics firm. I still need to figure what kind of roles would be suitable and are of interest to me in this field, post-mba. Any insights in this regard would be helpful.

Given my profile and plans, below are the pros and cons that I could think of:

1) Haas EWMBA:
Pros:
a) Family settled in Bay-Area, so it would be easier on that front.
b) Berkeley vs UCLA brand (I am not sure how much importance I should give to this with respect to my MBA. Being an Engineer, UCB brand for me is second to none, and on par with MIT and Stanford)

Cons:
a) career change might be difficult
b) might be missing that full-fledged MBA experience
c) network (not sure how much a part-time MBA would help me build a strong personal and professional network)

2) Anderson full-time MBA
Pros:
a) easier to change careers
b) full-fledged MBA experience might be a positively life transformative experience, especially with respect to my soft-skills and people management skills.
c) network, both personal and professional

Cons:
a) Anderson brand (I am sure Anderson has its own strengths, but I am concerned how much I am losing compared to a M7 or Top 10 MBA)
b) Family Relocation (I know I can't complain moving from NorCal to SoCal, given that many people shift countries for MBA. Nevertheless, it still is a concern)

3) Reapplying (full-time):
Due to personal constraints, this year, I had to start my application process in the very last minute (First week of January). I applied three schools - Kellogg full-time, Anderson full-time, and Haas EWMBA). Spent a week on Kellogg, another week on Haas, and 3-5 days on Anderson. I am confident of my story, and am sure that I can put a better application next year. However, with respect to age and work experience, I’ll fall closer to extreme right on averages at most top 10 schools. I am not thinking of Harvard or Stanford, but I am hopeful of getting into at least one M7 school. This is what my thinking is:

Kellogg/Booth/Sloan/Columbia
- I think I have a decent chance of getting into at least one of those schools if I put my best application. I’ll be happy if I get into those next year.
Haas/Tuck/Stern
- I am confident of getting admitted to at least one of these. I’ll be satisfied.
Any other school
- I guess, one year later, I would feel that I might have been better off joining Anderson when I had the option.

Thank you for taking time to read my long post. Please reply with your suggestions and comments. They would be immensely helpful for me in making this crucial decision.

Ram




If you have issues moving to LA from Bay Area....would you be ok moving to NY(Stern) & New Hampshire (Tuck). There is a huge diff b/w Haas PT and Anderson Full-Time. It would be really hard to change job function, let alone industry, with part-time program. Do your research on UCLA....if it gives you a decent shot at your post-MBA career, I would go for it.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Apr 2014, 23:44
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Congrats on your admit Ram. This is a pretty good problem to have :) Since you are looking for a industry/career change, you might wanna keep two things in mind.

1. Internship - Absolutely critical for career changers.
2. Age - Younger the better.

UCLA Full-time is a great program. Recruiters WILL differentiate between a full time and a part time program. A Berkeley brand will NOT offset that. Plus, the school is NOT invested in finding you a job in a part-time program where as in a full time program the school really cares that you get a job (as it reflects on their career services report.)


"school in NOT invested in finding you a job".. your this sentence gave me a new perspective on career options in PT vs FT. Thank you.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 17 Apr 2014, 23:55
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If you have issues moving to LA from Bay Area....would you be ok moving to NY(Stern) & New Hampshire (Tuck). There is a huge diff b/w Haas PT and Anderson Full-Time. It would be really hard to change job function, let alone industry, with part-time program. Do your research on UCLA....if it gives you a decent shot at your post-MBA career, I would go for it.


Thank you for your inputs trojan84. Relocating this year is a concern due to some specific circumstances. However, I agree, SF to LA any time is much simpler than doing coasts.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Apr 2014, 00:14
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My advice for you is to wait a year and apply to schools that you truly want to attend.

Business school imposes a lot of cost on students. Not only does it cost $100K over 2 years just in tuition alone, you also lose your earning powers during that time period (although you don't have that issue with a part-time program).

To me, it sounds like Anderson does not fit perfectly with your career plans. Although you have an option to attend Anderson as you have been admitted, it's your prerogative to turn down the offer extended to you.

During my process, I did think briefly about applying a year after to "higher ranked" schools but at the end of the day, I felt comfortable with what Anderson had to offer and joined the community.

It's a substantial investment on your part. You want to join a community that you truly want to belong.



Thank you for your comments dc3828102.

.."To me, it sounds like Anderson does not fit perfectly with your career plans".. would you please elaborate on why you felt this. My career plans consists.. consulting, data-analytics, and entrepreneurship. I know anderson is not a consulting powerhouse, however, I have heard some pretty good things about it's tech (data-analytics) placements and entrepreneurship program. Were you just referring to consulting or am I missing something here?
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Thank you for your comments dc3828102.

.."To me, it sounds like Anderson does not fit perfectly with your career plans".. would you please elaborate on why you felt this. My career plans consists.. consulting, data-analytics, and entrepreneurship. I know anderson is not a consulting powerhouse, however, I have heard some pretty good things about it's tech (data-analytics) placements and entrepreneurship program. Were you just referring to consulting or am I missing something here?


I'm feeding more off of your hesitation rather than Anderson itself. In whole, the difference in employment outcome stems from largely by student body, not from the school itself.

If somebody is capable, he will get a job at a place he wants wherever he goes.

Given that your hesitation comes from Anderson reputation, not sure whether you'll be happy or not once you actually enroll.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Apr 2014, 09:17
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In whole, the difference in employment outcome stems from largely by student body, not from the school itself.

If somebody is capable, he will get a job at a place he wants wherever he goes.


No better way to put it. Thank you for that.

I chose to apply Anderson because I know, if I join, I'll be comfortable and happy being a part of it. Same goes with the other two programs I applied to. The hesitation in my post has more to do with me playing a contrarian than the Anderson itself.

For me MBA is more about the people I am going to meet, the network I am going to build, and the friends I am going to make. From the look of the FB group, it seems like it is going to be a pretty diverse and enthusiastic batch. I eagerly look forward to A-Days, and I hope it would help me clear clouds in my mind.

Thanks again for your inputs.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 18 Apr 2014, 17:51
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1) Anderson (Full-time) vs 2) Haas (Part-time) vs 3) Reapplying next year

(This is going to be a long post. Please bear with me. Your inputs to help me make this crucial decision would be highly appreciated.)

I am glad to be selected to Haas EWMBA program and Anderson full-time (with $50K fellowship) program. I am trying to figure out the pros and cons of the two programs. I am also considering skipping this year and applying full-fledged next year.

Given below are the details about my profile and plans.

Profile:
Indian, Male, Age: 29, GMAT 730, (Q49, V40)

Work experience details:
5.5 years with a Govt agency. Worked in different engineering roles for the first 3 years. Working with project management division for the last 2.5 years.


Post-MBA plans:

Path A: Would like to move into management consulting in firms like PWC, Bain, and KPMG. Prefer to work in infrastructure management and PPP (Public-Private Partnership) roles, but open to explore other areas too.

Path B: In my present job in project management I spend a significant amount of time on data-analytics. Along with Infrastructure Industry, Data Analytics is my passion. If I chose this path, ultimately, I would like to set up my own data-analytics firm. I still need to figure what kind of roles would be suitable and are of interest to me in this field, post-mba. Any insights in this regard would be helpful.

Given my profile and plans, below are the pros and cons that I could think of:

1) Haas EWMBA:
Pros:
a) Family settled in Bay-Area, so it would be easier on that front.
b) Berkeley brand (I am not sure how much importance I should give to this with respect to my MBA. Being an Engineer, UCB brand for me is second to none, and on par with MIT and Stanford)

Cons:
a) career change might be difficult
b) might be missing that full-fledged MBA experience
c) network (not sure how much a part-time MBA would help me build a strong personal and professional network)

2) Anderson full-time MBA
Pros:
a) easier to change careers
b) full-fledged MBA experience might be a positively life transformative experience, especially with respect to my soft-skills and people management skills.
c) network, both personal and professional

Cons:
a) I am sure Anderson has its own strengths, but I am concerned how much I am losing compared to a M7 or Top 10 MBA
b) Family Relocation (I know I can't complain moving from NorCal to SoCal, given that many people shift countries for MBA. Nevertheless, it still is a concern)

3) Reapplying (full-time):
Due to personal constraints, this year, I had to start my application process in the very last minute (First week of January). I applied three schools - Kellogg full-time, Anderson full-time, and Haas EWMBA). I am confident of my story, and am sure that I can put a better application next year. However, with respect to age and work experience, I’ll fall closer to extreme right on averages at most top 10 schools. I am not thinking of Harvard or Stanford, but I am confident of getting into at least one M7 school.

Thank you for taking time to read my long post. Please reply with your suggestions and comments. They would be immensely helpful for me in making this crucial decision.


Given your constraints, go to Anderson. During my campus visit I met other people who faced the same decision and did not regret choosing Anderson's full time program in the slightest.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2014, 08:02
Does any one know when they let R3 applicants know regarding interview invites? Is it rolling or does Anderson release all on 1 day like some other schools?

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Hey everyone, I just declined my spot with half tuition scholarship so could luck to all the waitlisted! Hope it will help you :)
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2014, 08:25
I have the same question - R3 interview invites !
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2014, 13:24
Hey guys,

Just to let you know, I just received my R3 interview invite.

Good luck to you all!
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Just received an interview invite - Good Luck All!
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2014, 05:11
Met some great people at A days but wasn't feeling the energy of the campus/program. I think it's a school headed in a good direction but for whatever reason not one that excites me as much as I'd hoped.

If you're curious as to why - I've written about it in this forum earlier. I'm not a typical admit and I'm not looking for the typical MBA experience so take my thoughts with that that context in mind.

What I am happy to share though is that I hope this opens up spots for some WL'ers and people hoping for money (had a 1/2 tuition fellowship).
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 06 May 2014, 13:20
does anyone on here know if R3 admission is rolling like in previous years?
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 06 May 2014, 16:44
Anyone else get an interview to invite in R3?

If not, should we assume chances (of interview and/or admission) are pretty slim?

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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 08 May 2014, 10:55
Any R2 Waitlist folks have any updates or insights?

This wait is torture...
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Any R2 Waitlist folks have any updates or insights?

This wait is torture...


The wait is pretty bad - I check this site pretty much daily and the lack of transparency into the process is frustrating (and unavoidable). At least we should have some update in early June.
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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 10 May 2014, 07:15
Hi guys

Any body got interview invites for R3? I applied on April 14th 2014.
Does ucla intimate the candidate if not short listed?

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Re: Anderson (UCLA): Class of 2016- Calling all applicants! [#permalink] New post 10 May 2014, 07:47
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Any body got interview invites for R3? I applied on April 14th 2014.
Does ucla intimate the candidate if not short listed?

A brief about myself
Age 30
9 years of work experience in corporate finance.
Currently working as country finance head in east africa for a singapore based MNC.
Nationality indian
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Hi cssrikanthca,

Your experience is impressive, but Anderson may question your GMAT scores. Also, round three tends to be the most competitive. Perhaps you should re-test and apply again in round one.
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