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Re: medical test [#permalink] New post 01 Mar 2011, 05:41
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b,d and e are clear cases of altered intent . you can see that the meaning of the original sentence changes in b, d and e.

so a and c remain , and parallel usage makes c the winner
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Re: medical test [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2011, 22:28
C for me as well. It sounds right.
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2012, 18:35
I need help on this.
Isn't the referent of "it" ambiguous in C?

What does "it" refer to? The "condition" or "medical test" ?

Please explain.
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2012, 08:18
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 06 Dec 2012, 09:58
og explains that "there is one" leaves "it" has no referent. from this explanation I infer that

we can not use 2 pronouns "one" and "it" at the same time to refer to the same noun

in my thinking correct. ? pls confirm.
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Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2013, 11:56
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Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one when it is not.
(A) a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one
(B) when a condition is present and indicate that there is one
(C) a condition when it is present and indicate that it is present
(D) when a condition is present and indicate its presence
(E) the presence of a condition when it is there and indicate its presence

I shortlisted Choice C & E.

I want to know what is wrong with Choice E. I feel it more concise and clear.
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Re: Whats wrong with choice E [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2013, 12:00
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(C) a condition when it is present and indicate that it is present
Correct. This choice is more concise and clear.

(E) the presence of a condition when it is there and indicate its presence
-In first underlined part: The use of pronoun "it" is ambiguous as it is wrongly referring to "presence" (action noun) rather than the "condition".
-In second underlined part: "indicate its presence when it is not" is incorrect as it means "indicate condition's presence when it condition is not", which is wordy and doesn't make much sense. We should say "indicate that it [condition] is present when it is not [present]." Words in the bracket are implied.
- Also structure "a condition when it is present" is more concise.



One of the generic guideline to prefer verb to action noun. (Remember: its not a rule but a guideline) - MGMAT SC guide
Pattern: Prefer verb to action noun
o Wordy: The townspeople’s revolution was against the king.
 Revolution is a noun that expresses an action
o Better: The townspeople revolted against the king.

"a condition when it is present" is more concise and clearer than "the presence of condition when it is there". ("presence" is the action noun here)
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(E) is wrong and the difference is the following:
...fail to detect a condition when it is present...
...fail to detect the presence of a condition when it is there...

Once you add in "the presence of a condition" ...then the "it" doesn't know which noun to reference. In the prior case, "it" was referencing "condition" so that was clear. But in the new version....it's ambiguous. Is it referencing "presence" or "condition"?

It should be "fail to detect the presence of a condition when the CONDITION is there"....that is the intended meaning and that's why (E) is not right.
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2013, 16:05
The meaning of this sentence is not clear!! If the test fails to detect a condition then it should indicate that condition is not present but the correct choice (c) states that the medical test indicates that it is present then how can it fail to detect the condition?
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 04 Jan 2013, 10:36
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The meaning of this sentence is not clear!! If the test fails to detect a condition then it should indicate that condition is not present but the correct choice (c) states that the medical test indicates that it is present then how can it fail to detect the condition?


Rohan, i dont think there is anything ambiguous in choice C

C) Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition when it is present (Condition is present there however test failed to detect it.) and indicate that it is present when it is not. ( condition is not present however test mistakenly indicated so - See carefully, here they have used the word indicate instead of detect. For detection condition should physically be there.)
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 05 Jan 2013, 01:14
[quote="snipertrader"]Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one when it is not.
(A) a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one----compared to C not concise
(B) when a condition is present and indicate that there is one ----awkward
(C) a condition when it is present and indicate that it is present---// ism with "it is...it is..."-------correct
(D) when a condition is present and indicate its presence----change of meaning
(E) the presence of a condition when it is there and indicate its presence---awkward
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2013, 10:04
Hi, Relative pronoun - when - should follow a time or period noun right? This example seem to violate the rule.
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2013, 10:27
Click on the following link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec-nFHxSaPE to better explanation.
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Re: Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition [#permalink] New post 12 Aug 2013, 18:56
A) the word "there" refers to "a condition." If you replace "there" with "a condition," you get: "fail to detect a condition when it is present and indicate that a condition is one when it is not." "A condition is one" doesn't make sense.

B) Same issue as A.

C) Correct - parallel
"fail to detect... a condition.......... when it is present" and
"indicate.......... that it is present... when it is not"

D) present and presence - not parallel

E) looks like it is correct. but actually 'its' refers to the condition. So, it's wrong
"fail to detect... the presence of a condition.... when it is there" and
"indicate.......... its presence......................... when it is not"
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