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Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in PreX, with more graduate students.
A. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in
B. UpskirT has higher educated employees than those do
C. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those are in
D. UpskirT employees are higher educated that those are in
E. UpskirT has higher educated employees than
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Re: Comparison [#permalink] New post 24 Apr 2013, 12:24
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Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in PreX, with more graduate students.
A. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in
B. UpskirT has higher educated employees than those do
C. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those are in
D. UpskirT employees are higher educated that those are in
E. UpskirT has higher educated employees than

I don't know the source, but there are a number of problems with this sentence.

Problem #1: the phrase "higher educated" is grammatically and idiomatically incorrect. What the author is trying to say is "more highly educated" or simply "better educated".

Problem #2: in (B), the OA, at the very end, the verb "do" (plural) is used for PreX, the name of a company. This is actually a classic GMAT agreement mistake ---- a collective noun, such as the name of a company, is singular and must take a singular verb. Thus, "PreX does ABC" would be correct, and "PreX do ABC" is completely incorrect. Whoever wrote this question fell into this very popular SC trap.

Problem #3: The phrase "apart from having X" is very informal, far too colloquial to appear on the GMAT. The GMAT would set up the contrast in a much more sophisticated way.

This question needs some serious work before it would be a helpful practice question for folks studying for the GMAT.

Mike :-)
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Re: Comparison [#permalink] New post 24 Apr 2013, 14:19
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ranjeet75 wrote:
Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in PreX, with more graduate students.
A. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in
B. UpskirT has higher educated employees than those do
C. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those are in
D. UpskirT employees are higher educated that those are in
E. UpskirT has higher educated employees than

I don't know the source, but there are a number of problems with this sentence.

Problem #1: the phrase "higher educated" is grammatically and idiomatically incorrect. What the author is trying to say is "more highly educated" or simply "better educated".

Problem #2: in (B), the OA, at the very end, the verb "do" (plural) is used for PreX, the name of a company. This is actually a classic GMAT agreement mistake ---- a collective noun, such as the name of a company, is singular and must take a singular verb. Thus, "PreX does ABC" would be correct, and "PreX do ABC" is completely incorrect. Whoever wrote this question fell into this very popular SC trap.

Problem #3: The phrase "apart from having X" is very informal, far too colloquial to appear on the GMAT. The GMAT would set up the contrast in a much more sophisticated way.

This question needs some serious work before it would be a helpful practice question for folks studying for the GMAT.

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Thanks so much for clearing my doubt. I eliminate B because of "do", and also "those" is not clear in B, but it's the OA. Poor written question.
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Re: Comparison [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2013, 19:13
mikemcgarry wrote:
ranjeet75 wrote:
Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in PreX, with more graduate students.
A. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those in
B. UpskirT has higher educated employees than those do
C. the employees in UpskirT are higher educated than those are in
D. UpskirT employees are higher educated that those are in
E. UpskirT has higher educated employees than

I don't know the source, but there are a number of problems with this sentence.


Problem #2: in (B), the OA, at the very end, the verb "do" (plural) is used for PreX, the name of a company. This is actually a classic GMAT agreement mistake ---- a collective noun, such as the name of a company, is singular and must take a singular verb. Thus, "PreX does ABC" would be correct, and "PreX do ABC" is completely incorrect. Whoever wrote this question fell into this very popular SC trap.


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Hi Mike,

If not for the 'better educated' problem cant we choose option E... this doesn't have 'do' and plus we are comparing UpskirT with PreX right??? no need for a verb here
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Re: Comparison [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2013, 08:15
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If not for the 'better educated' problem cant we choose option E... this doesn't have 'do' and plus we are comparing UpskirT with PreX right??? no need for a verb here

With a verb after the word "than", ambiguity arises --- is the word after "than" in parallel with the subject or the object? In other words,

"A has more X than B"
Does this means
(1) A has more X than B has X?
(2) A has more X than A has B?
It's true, from logic, we can figure out that PreX should be in parallel to the other company, UpskirT, but from the GMAT's point of view, if the grammar itself is unclear, and we need to resort to logic to resolve a grammatical ambiguity, then that's a poorly written sentence. In a well-written sentence, grammar and logic say that same thing.

Does all this make sense?
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Re: Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2014, 14:27
Could some mod please correct this question? There's seems to be something wrong particullarly in answer choice B

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Re: Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2014, 08:22
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jlgdr wrote:
Could some mod please correct this question? There's seems to be something wrong particullarly in answer choice B
Thanks! Cheers J :)

Dear jlgdr,
What appears to be amiss with this question? I didn't see any problem.
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Hi Mike,
In this question, apart from questionable OA, "higher" doesn't sound right. "more" is more suitable. Can you please clarify?

And I guess as per logic, we can arrive at an Option E) Can you please highlight any other issue with Option E) ?
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Re: Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2014, 12:15
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Hi Mike,
In this question, apart from questionable OA, "higher" doesn't sound right. "more" is more suitable. Can you please clarify?

And I guess as per logic, we can arrive at an Option E) Can you please highlight any other issue with Option E) ?

Dear kinjiGC,
Yes, I see your point. I think what they are trying to say is "more highly educated" or "better educated."

Option (E) makes the classic subjective/objective comparison mistake.
UpskirT has higher educated employees than PreX
We know they are trying to compare company to company, but the construction suggests that they are comparing individual employees to a whole company. If logic tells us one thing, and grammar indicates another, then it's not a well-written sentence.

Does this make sense?
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Re: Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2014, 16:06
mikemcgarry wrote:
kinjiGC wrote:
Hi Mike,
In this question, apart from questionable OA, "higher" doesn't sound right. "more" is more suitable. Can you please clarify?

And I guess as per logic, we can arrive at an Option E) Can you please highlight any other issue with Option E) ?

Dear kinjiGC,
Yes, I see your point. I think what they are trying to say is "more highly educated" or "better educated."

Option (E) makes the classic subjective/objective comparison mistake.
UpskirT has higher educated employees than PreX
We know they are trying to compare company to company, but the construction suggests that they are comparing individual employees to a whole company. If logic tells us one thing, and grammar indicates another, then it's not a well-written sentence.

Does this make sense?
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But if we say 'Stacy eats apples quicker than Alex' ? Isn't that okay? And if it is, then why can't the one above be?
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Re: Apart from having more permanent employees than PreX, the [#permalink] New post 25 Jul 2014, 01:53
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mikemcgarry wrote:
kinjiGC wrote:
Hi Mike,
In this question, apart from questionable OA, "higher" doesn't sound right. "more" is more suitable. Can you please clarify?

And I guess as per logic, we can arrive at an Option E) Can you please highlight any other issue with Option E) ?

Dear kinjiGC,
Yes, I see your point. I think what they are trying to say is "more highly educated" or "better educated."

Option (E) makes the classic subjective/objective comparison mistake.
UpskirT has higher educated employees than PreX
We know they are trying to compare company to company, but the construction suggests that they are comparing individual employees to a whole company. If logic tells us one thing, and grammar indicates another, then it's not a well-written sentence.

Does this make sense?
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But if we say 'Stacy eats apples quicker than Alex' ? Isn't that okay? And if it is, then why can't the one above be?



Agree with this reasoning. Mike so how come the above sentence ( Stacy ...... Alex) is correct but the option E is not ??
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