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Are MGMAT CAT scores inflated ? [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2007, 19:58
OK i scored a 690 in MGMAT CAT 3 (V38, Q46) but heres the fishy part. i got 18 wrong in verbal and 17 wrong in quants . i feel these scores are way over inflated but since i haven't given Gmatprep till now, i dont know how to judge these scores.
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 [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2007, 21:58
I believe it has got to do more with the fact that not many people actually get a lot of their questions correct. So I think its only fair.

Their quant section is insane. I always get 15-16 wrong and still end up with 48-49.

In my last test verbal section, I got only abt 16-17 qns wrong. But I got 11 wrong in the first 20. Quite expectedly my verbal score went down a lot.

I think their scoring system is solid.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 10:46
I think MGMAT's final score is one of the more accurate 3rd party CATs. The math score is lenient to compensate for how difficult the test is, and the verbal is pretty close.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 11:44
so that means i am getting close to having a "7" as the first digit on GMAT. :-D
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Re: Are MGMAT CAT scores inflated ? [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 11:57
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OK i scored a 690 in MGMAT CAT 3 (V38, Q46) but heres the fishy part. i got 18 wrong in verbal and 17 wrong in quants . i feel these scores are way over inflated but since i haven't given Gmatprep till now, i dont know how to judge these scores.



Nah MGMAT is pretty straight with its scoring. You can expect to get about half or more of the Q's wrong. Look at the level of the problems you did, not how many you got right or wrong.

The math is crazy and sometimes the verbal can be screwy (i.e. 112 line RC that is straight out of an advanced graduate organic chemistry course's textbook).

But its the best CAT besides GMATPrep.

O ya, I heard MGMAT's math is a bit liberal on the scoring... However, i dunno if this is a myth, I heard you can add about 20-40pts to your test b/c of the difficulty or the quant section despite the liberal scoring.
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Re: Are MGMAT CAT scores inflated ? [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 12:00
yea the maths is pant pooping, i have never encountered such tough maths questions on any exam/study material related to GMAT, there maths make the gmatclub challanges look too easy.

Verbal looks consistent.


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OK i scored a 690 in MGMAT CAT 3 (V38, Q46) but heres the fishy part. i got 18 wrong in verbal and 17 wrong in quants . i feel these scores are way over inflated but since i haven't given Gmatprep till now, i dont know how to judge these scores.



Nah MGMAT is pretty straight with its scoring. You can expect to get about half or more of the Q's wrong. Look at the level of the problems you did, not how many you got right or wrong.

The math is crazy and sometimes the verbal can be screwy (i.e. 112 line RC that is straight out of an advanced graduate organic chemistry course's textbook).

But its the best CAT besides GMATPrep.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 13:13
yeah, I came up with the 20-40 pts on the total score thing because I never got higher than Q47 on MGMAT CAT math, and my other tests were all in the 49-51 range. Thus, 2-4 pts on the Quant usually converts to 20-40 pts on the total score. Not the most exact science, but a rough estimate.
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why if MGMAT math is so hard this CAT is supposed to be the best?
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 16:25
because doing harder math helps you a great deal when you go back to easier math on the GMAT. Also, the scoring is the most similar to the real GMAT. The verbal is pretty good (though not perfect) compared to the GMAT. That is why MGMAT is one of the better CATs out there.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 18:25
kryzak wrote:
because doing harder math helps you a great deal when you go back to easier math on the GMAT. Also, the scoring is the most similar to the real GMAT. The verbal is pretty good (though not perfect) compared to the GMAT. That is why MGMAT is one of the better CATs out there.


kryzak, what, in your opinion, is the ranking, of the, practice, CAT's out there?

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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 18:32
haha, well, I've only used the GMATPrep, PowerPrep, MGMAT, and Princeton Review. If you add Kaplan and what I've *read* about it, here would be my rankings:

1. GMATPrep - by far the most representative of the GMAT in terms of both scoring and test material

2. PowerPrep - Also uses real test material, but the scoring is a bit more lenient. The math questions are much easier, and the verbal is roughly the same. The only problem is it repeats a lot of questions from OG10 and OG11.

3. MGMAT - Uber-hard math will help you learn tricks to speed up your math and deal with tricky questions. Verbal has some problems, but overall is similar to GMAT, but slightly harder. The quant score is roughly 2-4 pts lower than what you could get on the real GMAT (assuming you don't get nervous or freeze up). The verbal score is pretty spot on. This provides the BEST comprehensive review of your test and the answers. If anything, I would take the test just for that!

4. Princeton Review - The math is extremely easy, the verbal has so many "wrong" answers and awkward RC/CR passages. I really didn't think this test would help me at all on the real GMAT after taking it once. The answer explanations for math and verbal were both not too good.

5. Kaplan - I've never taken it, but it's only because EVERYONE here says the score is roughly 100 pts lower than your potential real score, and the verbal and math were both unrepresentative.

I hope that helps!
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 18:49
I think Kaplan is ok in terms of the level of difficulty both in verbal and quants, its just that there scoring algo. is all twisted.

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haha, well, I've only used the GMATPrep, PowerPrep, MGMAT, and Princeton Review. If you add Kaplan and what I've *read* about it, here would be my rankings:

1. GMATPrep - by far the most representative of the GMAT in terms of both scoring and test material

2. PowerPrep - Also uses real test material, but the scoring is a bit more lenient. The math questions are much easier, and the verbal is roughly the same. The only problem is it repeats a lot of questions from OG10 and OG11.

3. MGMAT - Uber-hard math will help you learn tricks to speed up your math and deal with tricky questions. Verbal has some problems, but overall is similar to GMAT, but slightly harder. The quant score is roughly 2-4 pts lower than what you could get on the real GMAT (assuming you don't get nervous or freeze up). The verbal score is pretty spot on. This provides the BEST comprehensive review of your test and the answers. If anything, I would take the test just for that!

4. Princeton Review - The math is extremely easy, the verbal has so many "wrong" answers and awkward RC/CR passages. I really didn't think this test would help me at all on the real GMAT after taking it once. The answer explanations for math and verbal were both not too good.

5. Kaplan - I've never taken it, but it's only because EVERYONE here says the score is roughly 100 pts lower than your potential real score, and the verbal and math were both unrepresentative.

I hope that helps!
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Re: Are MGMAT CAT scores inflated ? [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 19:11
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OK i scored a 690 in MGMAT CAT 3 (V38, Q46) but heres the fishy part. i got 18 wrong in verbal and 17 wrong in quants . i feel these scores are way over inflated but since i haven't given Gmatprep till now, i dont know how to judge these scores.


Wow empty_spaces!! Did you get only 46 in the MGMAT quant with in the alloted 75 minutes? That is really good.
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Re: Are MGMAT CAT scores inflated ? [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 19:59
Yep, i never pause the clock even if i end up totally screwing the test, i feel that there DS is not as time taking as PS, which is really really hard, but what the hell i got 17 wrong out of 37, so nothing to be proud of i guess. :(

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OK i scored a 690 in MGMAT CAT 3 (V38, Q46) but heres the fishy part. i got 18 wrong in verbal and 17 wrong in quants . i feel these scores are way over inflated but since i haven't given Gmatprep till now, i dont know how to judge these scores.


Wow empty_spaces!! Did you get only 46 in the MGMAT quant with in the alloted 75 minutes? That is really good.
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empty_spaces: 46 is a REALLY good score on MGMAT Quant. I got a 47 on a couple tests and scored 51 on the GMAT. The PS is WAY more time consuming on the MGMAT Quant than the real test. I actually enjoyed the PS questions on the real tests since I didn't have to check my answers as much compared to DS questions!
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kryzak wrote:
haha, well, I've only used the GMATPrep, PowerPrep, MGMAT, and Princeton Review. If you add Kaplan and what I've *read* about it, here would be my rankings:

1. GMATPrep - by far the most representative of the GMAT in terms of both scoring and test material

2. PowerPrep - Also uses real test material, but the scoring is a bit more lenient. The math questions are much easier, and the verbal is roughly the same. The only problem is it repeats a lot of questions from OG10 and OG11.

3. MGMAT - Uber-hard math will help you learn tricks to speed up your math and deal with tricky questions. Verbal has some problems, but overall is similar to GMAT, but slightly harder. The quant score is roughly 2-4 pts lower than what you could get on the real GMAT (assuming you don't get nervous or freeze up). The verbal score is pretty spot on. This provides the BEST comprehensive review of your test and the answers. If anything, I would take the test just for that!

4. Princeton Review - The math is extremely easy, the verbal has so many "wrong" answers and awkward RC/CR passages. I really didn't think this test would help me at all on the real GMAT after taking it once. The answer explanations for math and verbal were both not too good.

5. Kaplan - I've never taken it, but it's only because EVERYONE here says the score is roughly 100 pts lower than your potential real score, and the verbal and math were both unrepresentative.

I hope that helps!


Someone here also mentioned that MGHill CATS are very good couple of days back. I have not experienced these CATs, but you can give a try and see.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2007, 22:35
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empty_spaces: 46 is a REALLY good score on MGMAT Quant. I got a 47 on a couple tests and scored 51 on the GMAT. The PS is WAY more time consuming on the MGMAT Quant than the real test. I actually enjoyed the PS questions on the real tests since I didn't have to check my answers as much compared to DS questions!



thanks Kryzak, thats definitely a confidence booster, though my problem is inconsistency, I am like the king of silly mistakes :oops: , i feel i can do much better on verbal as i always finish verbal with like 4-5 mins remaining, maybe i need 2-3 more weeks of practice to really get going afterall this is just my 4th week of GMAT preparation.
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kryzak wrote:
haha, well, I've only used the GMATPrep, PowerPrep, MGMAT, and Princeton Review. If you add Kaplan and what I've *read* about it, here would be my rankings:

1. GMATPrep - by far the most representative of the GMAT in terms of both scoring and test material

2. PowerPrep - Also uses real test material, but the scoring is a bit more lenient. The math questions are much easier, and the verbal is roughly the same. The only problem is it repeats a lot of questions from OG10 and OG11.

3. MGMAT - Uber-hard math will help you learn tricks to speed up your math and deal with tricky questions. Verbal has some problems, but overall is similar to GMAT, but slightly harder. The quant score is roughly 2-4 pts lower than what you could get on the real GMAT (assuming you don't get nervous or freeze up). The verbal score is pretty spot on. This provides the BEST comprehensive review of your test and the answers. If anything, I would take the test just for that!

4. Princeton Review - The math is extremely easy, the verbal has so many "wrong" answers and awkward RC/CR passages. I really didn't think this test would help me at all on the real GMAT after taking it once. The answer explanations for math and verbal were both not too good.

5. Kaplan - I've never taken it, but it's only because EVERYONE here says the score is roughly 100 pts lower than your potential real score, and the verbal and math were both unrepresentative.

I hope that helps!


Someone here also mentioned that MGHill CATS are very good couple of days back. I have not experienced these CATs, but you can give a try and see.



Yes, Trahul i also remember someoe mentioning the Mcgill CATS but i also remember someone mentioning that he/she found a lot of answers wrong in it. Still might not be bad to give em a try.
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Can someone shoot me a PM if they are willing to share McGrawHill. I have a FTP server where it can be uploaded to.
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 [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2007, 07:38
I posted that I liked the MGHill CATs. I thought the math was tough but fair, and overall was a similar experience to the MGMAT.
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