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"The minute you think of giving up, think of the reason why you held so long"
I held on too long to let it go, and finally got it

Gave my 4th attempt of the GMAT today and scored a 760 (Q50 V42 IR8 AWA 5.5)

Here are the scores from my previous attempts:

GMAT1(19/10/2012): 700 (Q50 V34)
GMAT2(18/7/2013): 700 (Q50 V33)
GMAT3(9/5/2014): 710 (Q50 V35)

Here is a link to the debrief of my first attempt. Did not write one for the next two, reasons understandable
gmat-700-q50-v34-retake-done-710-q50-v35-ir-7-awa-151689.html#p1217253url

But this one here deserves a debrief and I will try to incorporate all the things which I did during my preparation.

After rejection from ISB, I bumped into one of my interviewers who suggested me to give the GMAT again stating that 700 is a low score.
So I geared up for another shot at the GMAT and started the preparation in March 2014.

GMAT Round3 9th of May 2014.
Below is the list of material which i used for the preparation:

Quants:
1. Official Guide 13, Question Pack1
2. Magoosh
3. GMAT Club Tests

Verbal:
1. Manhattan Sentence Correction Guide 5th edition,
2. Aristotle SC, CR, RC Grails
3. Official Guide 13
4. OG Verbal Review
5. Magoosh

Test Resources:
1. GMAT prep
2. GMAT prep Exam pack1
4. Magoosh Tests.

I needed to form a schedule, so went ahead and enrolled myself in Magoosh's premium membership course. (This came with a 50 point score guarantee)
The Verbal lessons provided are too good. All the concepts are very well explained and clear all the doubts.
I went through all the lessons and kept a check of my progress by the analysis provided by Magoosh.
The video lessons attached with all the questions helped me to understand the point which I was missing and helped me analyze and improve upon my mistake.
I made sure to note down all the concepts, especially for SC in a notebook and kept revising them every other night.

I was performing bad particularly in CR and paid attention to it by doing all the CR problems and listening to the videos provided by Magoosh.
The mistake I did here was that I left RC unattended. I just solved the RCs on my mock tests and never revisited them. I think this is the problem with most of the people. We solve RCs only in the mock tests and think that reading supplementary material would do the trick. But in my opinion, nothing can be far frm the truth. We need to practice a lot for the RC section, especially the Official Questions to get a hang of the type of questions and how to solve them

Also, an even bigger mistake was not keeping an error log.

THE MOCK TESTS:

By far the most important factor in your final score. Every test you take, enables you for D Day. By adjusting your time, stamina, fatigue, strategy during the mock tests, on the final day you can do wonders

My schedule for the mock test is detailed below along with the scores:

Magoosh Tests:
Test 1: 690 (Q48 V36) - 5/4/2014
Test 2: 690 (Q48 V36) - 20/4/2014
Test 3: 730 (Q50 V40) - 24/4/2014

Veritas Tests:
Test 1: 690 (Q50 V35) - 18/4/2014
Test 2: 740 (Q50 V41) - 26/4/2014
Test 3: 760 (Q50 V44) - 28/4/2014
Test 4: 760 (Q50 V44) - 30/4/2014

GMATPrep Tests:
Test 1: 710 (Q50 V35) - 15/4/2014
EP Test1: 760 (Q50 V44) - 30/4/2014 (1 wrong in the first 10 in VA)
EP Test2: 710 (Q50 V37) - 04/5/2014 (3 wrong in the first 10 in VA)

ACTUAL GMAT 710 (Q50 V35 IR 8 AWA 6)
After doing all the hard work, I scored a 710. The score was good, but my soul was not at peace.
I was bummed by a hard RC passage which came in the first 10 questions, and I know for sure that I would have marked the answers incorrectly.

Asked bb for the advice and he said 3rd or 4th attempt makes no difference, so go for it.
Asked the ISB ADCOM about the feedback, they told that the GMAT score is on the lower side, so i should try and boost up my score to at least 740.
Recipe for another retake

Came back home, attempted a Veritas Prep test and scored a 740.
Registered for the GMAT on the same day (25th May) and took the next available date of 16th July.

GMAT Round 4 - 16th July 2014
This time around, I knew where I lacked. I downloaded the all official files which have been compiled by Souvik and started solving the questions.
This was the only thing which I included in my preparation for the 4th round of GMAT. Although my basics had been built, this time around my strategy acted like the captain of the ship on which the basics/concepts were the passengers. I tried to increase my accuracy as much as possible. I completed almost 90% of those pdf files till the day before my GMAT. I was able to solve them with an accuracy close to 90%.

Also another amendment was the practice of RCs. In all I would have solved more than 120 RCs for the 4th round of preparation.
I also maintained an error log. Not a proper excel sheet, but I kept on noting down all the problems which were incorrect and made sure to learn new concepts attached to them. I found the new concepts by searching for those questions on the GMATclub and noted the concepts down in my Error log learning.
This tremendously helped me in my preparation.
The main point here is that you should know where you had gone wrong, so that the next time you never make the same mistake.

Study Material:
The official Question pdfs for RC, CR and SC
Veritas Prep Free Question Bank

THE MOCK TESTS:

Veritas Prep: 760 (Q50 V44)

GMAT Prep (Reset)
Test1: 750
Test2: 760
EP test1: 770
EP Test2: 760 (Last mock before the exam)

I took the scores of the GMAT prep with a pinch of salt as I had seen many of the questions.
Still sitting for 4 hours helped me build my stamina for the real thing.

ACTUAL GMAT: 760 (Q50 V42 IR8)
Had teary eyes. Raised my hand slowly and the invigilator escorted me out of the center. I even told him that I will not come back again here, to which he gave a polite smile

Tips for preparation:

Sentence Correction:
MGMAT is the best book you can get your hands on to prepare for SC.
Aristotle Grail is a simplified version of MGMAT and is too useful to build the concepts.
Magoosh lessons. Easy, Crisp and Lucid video lessons.

Take down the notes in your notebook and revise them every other day, so that they are embedded in your system.
Start off a SC question by find the subject and then check that the verb agrees with it or not. Check for the parallelism by looking out for words such as and, that etc.
Make sure that there is a verb in the sentence (-ing forms are not verbs by themselves)

To break it in points:
1. Find the subject
2. Make sure the subject agrees with the verb in numbers
3. Make sure the verb is full verb
4. usage of Like (used to compare nouns and express similarities), as(used to compare every thing else and such as used for examples)
5. Parallelism- Pay attention to ""and, that, either or, neither nor etc" as they are the signal words and parts on both sides of these words should be parallel
5. Tense: The parallel parts of the sentences should be in the same tense.
Perfect Tense used only when any event has already happened and is over
Progressive tense is used when the event is in action.

These are some of the things which will enable you solve most of the questions correctly.

Critical Reasoning:
Practice is the key here.
You can go through as many strategies you want, but the most important thing here is practice.
Aristotle Grail had some good techniques.

In assumption questions, try to negate the left over answer choices and then see if the arguement falls apart. If it does, then you have the correct answer
In the conclusion question, full essence of the premise should be captured.

Definitely the section which is most underrated by the students and according to me, this is the section which can make or break your score.
I have learned it the hard way. There are a lot many strategies which people recommend.

However making a passage map worked out for me.
I always made a passage map by writing the main points about the paragraph, including some of the details. The usage of short hand is a must for this.
I read the first and the last lines of each paragraph with utmost importance as they are the ones which give you a good idea about the intent of the paragraph.
Practice is again the key here. I believe that even if you are not a voracious reader and do not read "the Washington times", you can crack this section by solving ample number of RCs. Worked for me.

Keep a note of the tone in which the passage is written broadly: positive, negative or neutral.
Specific Details questions: Read one line before and after the specific detail in the passage
Inference Questions: Treat like a normal CR question, look for the information in the passage and you will be able to infer easily
Conclusion and Tone questions: Should be able to capture the whole paragraph and should not contain anything new

Recommended Material:
MGMAT SC
Aristotle SC, CR
Magoosh membership
GMAT Prep and GMAT Prep Extended Pack
GMAT Prep Question Pack1

And finally the big one: The pdfs of everything official compiled by Souvik fir CR SC and RC.
These files contain all the official question out there and help to get a hang about the types of questions which come on the real thing.
But these file come at a cost. I would not recommend these files to anyone who is taking the GMAT for the first time as your test taking experience will be diluted because of the seen questions. However, the re-takers should definitely try to solve these files as much as they can.
The official pdfs can be found at the links below:
CR: the-most-comprehensive-collection-of-everything-official-cr-140375.html#p1129824
SC: the-most-comprehensive-collection-of-everything-official-sc-140372.html#p1129819
RC: the-most-comprehensive-collection-of-everything-official-rc-140373.html#p1129820

This has to be in place if someone is preparing sincerely. The methods for recording errors may be different, but one should have this. I simply noted down all the questions I got wrong on three separate pages of my notebook, each page for one section.

My tips for the GMAT test day:

1. Get proper sleep before the day.
2. Reach the centre at least half an hour before your appointment.
3. Just revise the formulas and rules which you have prepared over the course of your studies.
4. Go through the AWA template by Chineseburned a day or two before itself. I assure you that would suffice
5. Take an energy drink and something to eat. May be biscuits or chocolates or anything, but have some thing during the breaks.
6. Take both the breaks and i would recommend use the restroom to keep your mind free
7. NEVER NEVER NEVER think about the difficulty of the question and judge your performance based on the difficulty of the next question. if you are very well prepared, you are bound to feel all the questions easy
8. Keep a track of the time and its ok to make a guess in some unsolvable question and move on rather than wasting 5 minutes on the question.
9. Past is past, dont think about the section which is completed, leave it and move ahead. A good next section can also get you to 750 760.
10. NEVER NEVER NEVER let the thought of the final score cross through your mind during the exam.
11. Pay attention to the first 10 questions. However much the GMAC says that it is a myth, they play a big big role in your overall score
It's OK to devote an extra minute or two in the first 10 questions of both the sections.

One final tip for the Re takers: Write the following lines on the first page of your notebook

"Once more into the fray
Into the last good fight i'll ever know
Live and die on this day
Live and die on this day"

A big thank you to bb all the people who posted on the GMAT Club and helped me in reaching my goal.
Sorry for the long debrief, but I would be extremely happy if someone is benefited from my experience.
Feel free to ask any questions.
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Wow. Great man.

All the best for your apps this time. For sure you'll get ISB or even better school
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Great job! Does your GMAT score come up directly after you submit the final answer? Does the screen display your score while asking whether you want to accept the score? Thanks.
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Congratulations, bro..!!!

Truly inspirational. I saw your profile in GMAT Club, And I am in the same boat as you are :D. Our Previous companies are also same. I just hope that i too get a better score.

My take is on 26th August.

Once again Congratulations
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16 Jul 2014, 21:11
Hi, congrats on your success . I have a question.. Would you suggest a first time test taker to solve and get a complete hang of the OG Problems. Would it be sufficient if someone pratices n understands the OG problems well.

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Great job! Does your GMAT score come up directly after you submit the final answer? Does the screen display your score while asking whether you want to accept the score? Thanks.

Thanks a lot!
The GMAT score comes up after a series of background information questions. The background questions come after you submit the final question.
The screen displays the score on one screen and on the screen after it, you make the decision to report or cancel the scores.
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Hi, congrats on your success . I have a question.. Would you suggest a first time test taker to solve and get a complete hang of the OG Problems. Would it be sufficient if someone pratices n understands the OG problems well.

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I would not suggest you to go through the files without first completing the GMAT Prep mock tests, because those are the best indicators of your true potential.
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Good Job Ankur. A very well deserved score. With all the tribulations and handwork I understand the teary eyed bit and not wanting to come back.
Good luck with the application man.

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Updated the post with the links. All the best!
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Congratulations! your perseverance is admirable. Thank you for the debrief, it is very useful
Good luck for your dream school !
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congrats ,

Can you please what strategy and how did u prepare for Quant?
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Hi Ankur,

Awesome score and you truly deserve that for not giving up!!
I can imagine your reaction on seeing the score...Like they say..Hardwork always pays off.

Your debrief is again a pointer to why error log is important but did you have error log for RC's as well.

What stands out for me :
"The minute you think of giving up, think of the reason why you held so long"
I held on too long to let it go, and finally got it

I hope I will be able to muster enough courage to give the exam in aug and not postpone !!
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I feel like I am memorizing questions from error log. Any advice on this? CR is my weakest section.

Also how do you practice for Quant?
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Cheers Bro !

Hope ISB-Adcom would feel shameful this time for not selecting you last year

Just kidding.

Congratulations !

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congrats ,

Can you please what strategy and how did u prepare for Quant?

Hey, I did not really follow any strategy for quants as I was cpretty much comfortable with it.
Still, I think the magoosh course helped me. The initial questions of OG are too basic, but the questions in GMAT prep exams are good.
try to find the explanations of the questions by searching them in gmatclub.
Also, MGMAT CATs also have a good variety of questions. Although they are a bit on the higher difficulty side, but if you solve them, you will not find any difficulty with the GMAT questions.
One another resource which i have heard a lot about are the gmatclub tests. I have not solved the tests, but I have read about them in a lot many debriefs and think they would be helpful in your preparation. Be careful as they are a bit difficult.

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Hi Ankur,

Awesome score and you truly deserve that for not giving up!!
I can imagine your reaction on seeing the score...Like they say..Hardwork always pays off.

Your debrief is again a pointer to why error log is important but did you have error log for RC's as well.

What stands out for me :
"The minute you think of giving up, think of the reason why you held so long"
I held on too long to let it go, and finally got it

I hope I will be able to muster enough courage to give the exam in aug and not postpone !!

Hey thanks a lot
Yes, I did have an error log for RC also. I made a note of the types of questions I was unable to solve and then tried to focus more on those questions when I solved the next RC passage
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I feel like I am memorizing questions from error log. Any advice on this? CR is my weakest section.

Also how do you practice for Quant?

You will never see the same question on the GMAT. Identify the type of question which you are not able to solve, and then try to practice those questions.

1. Inference
2. Assumption
3. Conclusion
4. Passage Completion
5. Strengthen/Weaken

See, in which types of questions you are facing difficulty and then attack that particular type.
For Quants, I have mentioned the materials used in the post above.
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Also another amendment was the practice of RCs. In all I would have solved more than 120 RCs for the 4th round of preparation.
I also maintained an error log. Not a proper excel sheet, but I kept on noting down all the problems which were incorrect and made sure to learn new concepts attached to them. I found the new concepts by searching for those questions on the GMATclub and noted the concepts down in my Error log learning.

Hi Ankur,

I want to know which source you used for RCs?

I have general question on RC.
1. Daily how much RC you were solving?
2. How you gained accuracy in RC?
3. How you were learning from your mistakes?
4. How you were timing yourself?
5. You were completing RC in set of 4-5? Or you were completing one RC and then after reviewing it you were moving to next RC?

** Overall strategy question
6. How you build the stamina?
7. What you did to remain focused during the exam? It is very hard to remain focus especially in last hr of the exam and that is the most crucial hr.
8. What was your daily routine to approach Verbal section? -- I am planning to solve daily 4 RCs and on alternative day solve CR and SC by timing myself. What do you suggest on this approach?

Sorry for lots of questions, but you inputs would be very much helpful.

Thanks,
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