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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2011, 01:08
Just a quick note to say that the fees for MBA2012 have been confirmed. More details on our website or
http://www.thecambridgembaadmissions.co ... r-mba2012/

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 29 Jul 2011, 03:53
Hi all,

I am from India and I plan on applying to the Judge Business School Class 2012

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GMAT - 740
Years of work ex (at present): 4 yrs
Years of work ex (at the time of joining an MBA school in 2012, hopefully!): 5 years
Industry: Microfinance (Social Sector) - India
Age: 27 yrs

I have a couple of queries for the Cambridge Admissions Team:

1. For Judge Business School students, I see that the mean age is 30 years and Mean Avg. Work exp. is close to 6.5 years. Given that usually there is a strong correlation between the accepted students' age/work-ex and the above two figures, do you think that 4/5 years is enough on the lower side to be a little bit of a disadvantage and might need making up in other areas? Also, which figure does the school consider as work-exp: a.) at the time of applying? or b.) at the time of joining

2. Post MBA, I plan to continue working in the development sector and thus would appreciate any financing/funding help in terms of scholarships/fellowships. One of the options available to Cambridge admits is the Gates Cambridge Scholarship. On one of the forums, I had read that for an MBA admit, to get the Gates Cambridge Scholarship is extremely rare. I just wanted to confirm with the Admissions Team on whether there have been past instances where an MBA admit has got the Gates scholarship and if there are any general trends on the same, say 1-2 students every year or so

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 29 Jul 2011, 04:34
@Srijan

Thanks for your questions. You should be able to fulfill the work experience requirement, which is calculated at the time of starting the course. It is more important that you think about how your work can demonstrate key qualities of excellence and collaboration that we look for in candidates.

The Gates Scholarship is given to students in Cambridge regardless of academic discipline. It is highly competitive and there is a strong emphasis on academic achievement at the undergraduate or Masters level. There is no fixed trend. There have been years when we have had no Gates Scholars, but we had two Gates Scholars in MBA2010. One is an American doctor and the other is an Israeli who worked in several peace NGOs.

If you wish to apply for the Gates Scholarship, do read their website for further details.
http://www.gatesscholar.org/

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 29 Jul 2011, 22:41
Hi,

I have couple more questions-

1. I understand from the JBS website that the Outcome for 1st Round will be by 17 Nov. Could you please let us know after getting the offer, within what stipulated time the candidate has to pay 15% of fees as a token of accepting the offer?

2. The website also says that as part of the "Conditional Offer" , students have to provide evidence of how they will fund the full cost of the programme. In case i am looking to get a bank loan, do you guys just need a statement confirming this or do you actually need by that time student should have successfully availed the loan ?
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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 30 Jul 2011, 01:02
@maxmoju

Candidates who receive an offer from us have 3 weeks to pay the reservation fee.
You can indicate that you will apply for a loan from a financial institution and that will be sufficient but it is in every candidate's interest to secure the loan as soon as possible.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 10 Aug 2011, 03:23
For everyone's info, Forbes released their biennial MBA rankings last week. The CAmbridge MBA was ranked 5th among 1 year non-US programmes.

I have written more details in my blog but I am happy to take any comments/questions here.
http://www.thecambridgembaadmissions.co ... a-ranking/

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2011, 23:22
Hi,

This one's regarding UK visa rules. I know there is a separate thread going about this but wanted to ask directly to cambridge school representative.

Can you explain how bad can it go for international students based on your on the field experience. Do you think companies will prefer hiring EU students rather than non EU students or have you seen any such trend.
Is there any reassurance that schools like yours can give to international students since most of us right now are kind of confused about whether to apply to UK schools or not since chances of a good return on Investment becomes bleak in case we have to go to our native countries after MBA.

I understand its kind of a generalized question and you may not be in the best position to answer it but still would like to hear from an official school representative.
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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 21 Aug 2011, 22:35
@maxmoju

So far, we have not seen any trend from companies preferring EU over non-EU. Companies still look at talent rather than the passport. So far, we have non-EU students accepting offers for work in the UK.

The current visa regulations do make it easier for a UK company to hire a non-EU student studying in the UK vs hiring a non-EU student with no affiliation to the UK. If a UK company hires a non-EU graduate of a UK MBA programme for example, that student does not count against their Tier 2 quota, and that hire is not subject to local market testing (ie the company does not have to prove that there was no better EU citizen). The downside is that non-EU students have to accept their job offers during the tenure of their student visa so there is much more pressure for non-EU students to get jobs during their time in school.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 21 Aug 2011, 22:58
Hello Conrad,

Thank you for your valuable time and Welcome to the club.

I have a question about your English requirements. I had undertaken my Undergraduate studies from India and recently completed my Masters from a UK university.

I read on the Cambridge Website (Requirements page) that an applicant can waive the english requirement if he/she studied or worked in UK.
I currently have a 108 in TOEFL and it costs a bit to keep talking the exam, over and over, so I wanted to know whether I can waive the english exam requirement?

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 21 Aug 2011, 23:12
@BlueRobin

If you have completed a full-time Masters degree in the UK, we can give you a waiver. Please note though that us giving you a waiver does not necessarily absolve you of any other English requirements that the UK Border Agency might have when you apply for a visa.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2011, 08:00
Thanks Conrad for a detailed explanation. Appreciate you taking your time off and answering the queries.
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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 23 Aug 2011, 06:44
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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2011, 09:20
Hi,

I have done my bachelors in business admin - 3 yrs full time , and I have done one year programme which i could attend through satellite medium of classes, so i could continue my job as well.

i have an experience of 10 yrs - full time.

So, as a whole the no of years of formal education i have taken till now is 15 yrs - full time , so can i apply or not ? or do you require me to complete 16 years of formal full time education?

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2011, 11:40
hirendhak

I don't make individual assessments for candidates. But if you have a full-time bachelor's degree with at least a 2:1 and a minimum of three years work experience, then you satisfy those requirements.

All the best.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2011, 10:14
hi,

I read your revert on the work permit issue, Interesting point made is the NON EU students have to get JOB offers while they are on the student VISA - that is before completion of the MBA - After the course is over - if there are no jobs - they would have to return to their respective home country.

Could you please share some data points as to how many students receive job offers while doing their MBA ( as website data is 3 months from graduation) - & what % of those job offers are generated through career services.

Also share some light on options for a NON EU students - who does not get placed before finishing his MBA - how much time do they have on hand - Before being deported.
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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2011, 13:34
@alokag. the visa is usually for the duration of the course plus 4 months so you can use the website data on offers received within 3 months of graduation as the data point.

However, I always tell people that it is not that instructive to extrapolate from the employment data of any school to one's individual case. You have to look at your own work experience and ask yourself how close a fit it is to your desired career transition. You can also ask people in the area/company that you want to work in whether your profile is competitive and whether an MBA would help strengthen your profile.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 01 Oct 2011, 20:48
Dear Mr. Conrad Chua,

Thank you for taking the time to answer questions on GMAT Club.

I am a prospective MBA candidate interested in working in finance in the Greater China region. From my understanding, most bulge bracket investment banks and large private equity firms hire almost exclusively out of their summer associate class. Since the Judge MBA is a 1 year program, I was wondering how Judge makes up for a lack of a summer internship, in terms of placement at top financial services firms, compared to 2 year programs such as LBS?

Also according to the Cambridge MBA employment report for the Class of 2009, 45% of students were of Asian nationalities but Asia only accounted for 9% of the post-MBA job location. I have an US background, am currently working in Asia, and plan to return to Asia post-MBA. I was wondering if you can comment on Judge's Asia employment placement and alumni network given what seems like the vast majority of students from Asia choosing to stay in the UK rather than return home?

Thank you again for taking the time to answer questions on this website

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 01 Oct 2011, 22:16
Robert

Thanks for your email.

Firstly, the 2009 employment report showed that 33% of our graduates worked in Asia post-MBA, not 9% as you mentioned.

Secondly, you are right that many bulge bracket investment banks hire associates through the summer internship route. But that does not mean that our graduates do not enter the investment banking field. Quite a number work in boutique investment banks and some graduates work in bulge bracket investment banks. A few of those who work in the bulge bracket firms had no prior experience in finance but they were very strong personalities who did their homework, networked intelligently and had the persistence to keep plugging away. Ironically, such graduates were hired at levels above an associate, but I should say that these were exceptional leaders in their own right.

If you are considering a career in investment banking, I would suggest talking to people in the field right now to ascertain the hiring situation for the next two years.

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 02 Oct 2011, 21:02
Dear Mr Conrad Chua,

Thank you for your response and I apologize for my mistake on Cambridge's Asia employment numbers.

I currently work for a boutique financial services firm and am interested in making a transition into a larger firm post-MBA. From networking, I have learned that while I can secure letters of recommendations from currently employees at the larger firms, I will still likely have to go through the official graduate recruitment process at the associate level. (I currently have too little experience for employment above the associate level.) Recruitment at larger firms often takes place during September of the year prior to the employment date, which is roughly the same time as Cambridge's MBA matriculation date.

One of the many things that draws me to the Cambridge MBA is that it is only a 1 year program, but I was wondering if you could highlight some things that Cambridge does to prepare its students for employment very early in its MBA process? Also I was wondering if you could highlight some things that Cambridge does to prepare its students for recruitment many thousands of kilometers away from the UK?

Thank you very much

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Re: Ask Cambridge (Judge) Admissions [#permalink] New post 02 Oct 2011, 22:16
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Careers prep starts before students even step foot on campus. Our Careers team asks students to polish up their CVs, crystallise their career goals and start planning their career search. They then arrange 1-on-1 sessions with students through the first few weeks of term. There are also case interview workshops that the Careers team organises.

60% of our class work outside the UK after graduation. They find their jobs in a variety of ways. Many companies hire globally and there is a standard recruitment process that candidates have to adhere to regardless of location. This applies even to the companies who visit campus. But many students use their initiative to initiate and share contacts, which might lead to group consulting projects/internships for themselves and other students. This then could subsequently lead to formal work opportunities. I've been very impressed with the number of students who have collaborated with their fellow classmates by giving feedback about their job search ideas or pointing them in the right direction.

Given that you are already in Asia, you will have an advantage in terms of knowing the region and people in the industry. One question you left unanswered is why do you want to make the transition to a large i-bank. Are you also looking for a change in your job function?

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