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Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

A.
B. that they believe it to be
C. they believe that it is of
D. they believe that is
E. they believe to be of


How do I know when I can omit "that"???
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bkk145 wrote:
Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

A.
B. that they believe it to be
C. they believe that it is of
D. they believe that is
E. they believe to be of


How do I know when I can omit "that"???


It is tricky as well.
ONE is already playing the role of THAT,
so if we say ONE THAT..., it is the same as THAT THAT

so compare it now

...supernova explosion, that they believe....
....supernova explosion, one they believe...
I think that is redundant here.
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Ravshonbek wrote:
bkk145 wrote:
Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

A.
B. that they believe it to be
C. they believe that it is of
D. they believe that is
E. they believe to be of


How do I know when I can omit "that"???


It is tricky as well.
ONE is already playing the role of THAT,
so if we say ONE THAT..., it is the same as THAT THAT

so compare it now

...supernova explosion, that they believe....
....supernova explosion, one they believe...
I think that is redundant here.


You are right, it's redundant here...according to OG. Are there any more such pronoun that I can omit "that"?
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bkk145 wrote:
Ravshonbek wrote:
bkk145 wrote:
Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

A.
B. that they believe it to be
C. they believe that it is of
D. they believe that is
E. they believe to be of


How do I know when I can omit "that"???


It is tricky as well.
ONE is already playing the role of THAT,
so if we say ONE THAT..., it is the same as THAT THAT

so compare it now

...supernova explosion, that they believe....
....supernova explosion, one they believe...
I think that is redundant here.


You are right, it's redundant here...according to OG. Are there any more such pronoun that I can omit "that"?


There might be some, but came to this conclusion from the context itself.
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Ravshonbek wrote:
bkk145 wrote:
Ravshonbek wrote:
bkk145 wrote:
Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

A.
B. that they believe it to be
C. they believe that it is of
D. they believe that is
E. they believe to be of


How do I know when I can omit "that"???


It is tricky as well.
ONE is already playing the role of THAT,
so if we say ONE THAT..., it is the same as THAT THAT

so compare it now

...supernova explosion, that they believe....
....supernova explosion, one they believe...
I think that is redundant here.


You are right, it's redundant here...according to OG. Are there any more such pronoun that I can omit "that"?


There might be some, but came to this conclusion from the context itself.



The thing which is being tested here is the idiom "believe..."
The correct idiom use is "believe X to be Y" . So answer is E.
Re: Astronomers   [#permalink] 19 Aug 2007, 20:16
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