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Bag A contains red, white and blue marbles such that the red to white marble ratio is 1:3 and the white to blue marble ratio is 2:3. Bag B contains red and white marbles in the ratio of 1:4. Together, the two bags contain 30 white marbles. How many red marbles could be in bag A?

A. 1
B. 3
C. 4
D. 6
E. 8

The explanation given is little confusing. Can anyone suggest a easy method to approach such types of problems?

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We are told that bag B contains red and white marbles in the ration 1:4. This implies that WB, the number of white marbles in bag B, must be a multiple of 4.

What can we say about WA, the number of white marbles in bag A? We are given two ratios involving the white marbles in bag A. The fact that the ratio of red to white marbles in bag A is 1:3 implies that WA must be a multiple of 3. The fact that the ratio of white to blue marbles in bag A is 2:3 implies that WA must be a multiple of 2. Since WA is both a multiple of 2 and a multiple of 3, it must be a multiple of 6.

We are told that WA + WB = 30. We have already figured out that WA must be a multiple of 6 and that WB must be a multiple of 4. So all we need to do now is to test each candidate value of WA (i.e. 6, 12, 18, and 24) to see whether, when plugged into WA + WB = 30, it yields a value for WB that is a multiple of 4. It turns out that WA = 6 and WA = 18 are the only values that meet this criterion.


Recall that the ratio of red to white marbles in bag A is 1:3. If there are 6 white marbles in bag A, there are 2 red marbles. If there are 18 white marbles in bag A, there are 6 red marbles. Thus, the number of red marbles in bag A is either 2 or 6. Only one answer choice matches either of these numbers.

The correct answer is D.
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

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Bag A contains red, white and blue marbles such that the red to white marble ratio is 1:3 and the white to blue marble ratio is 2:3. Bag B contains red and white marbles in the ratio of 1:4. Together, the two bags contain 30 white marbles. How many red marbles could be in bag A?
1. 1
2. 3
3. 4
4. 6
5. 8


Bag A:
R/W=1/3=2/6;
W/B=2/3=6/9;
So R/W/B=2/6/9 --> # of marbles in bag A would be 2x, 6x, and 9x, for some positive integer multiple x, where 6x corresponds to the # of white marbles and 2x corresponds to the # of red marbles (so # of red marbles must be a multiple of 2, so answers A and B are out at this stage);

Bag B:
R/W=1/4 --> # of marbles in bag B would be y and 4y, for some positive integer multiple y, where 4y corresponds to the # of white marbles;

Given: 6x+4y=30 --> 3x+2y=15 --> there are two positive integer solutions for this equation:
x=3 and y=3 --> in this case # of red marbles equals to 2x=6;
Or:
x=1 and y=6 --> in this case # of red marbles equals to 2x=2;

Only 6 is in the answer choices.

Answer: D.
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Re: Ratio problem with Marbles [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2010, 20:47
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Bag A contains red, white and blue marbles such that the red to white marble ratio is 1:3 and the white to blue marble ratio is 2:3. Bag B contains red and white marbles in the ratio of 1:4. Together, the two bags contain 30 white marbles. How many red marbles could be in bag A?

A) 1
B) 3
C) 4
D) 6
E) 8

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Bag A
R:W = 1:3
W:B = 2:3
R:W:B = 2:6:9

Because the proportion of 2:6:9 must hold constant, the number of white marbles in Bag A has to equal 6n, where n is a positive integer.

Bag B
R:W = 1:4

Because the proportion of 1:4 must hold constant, the number of white marbles in Bag B has to equal 4m, where m is a positive integer.

Given that there are a total of 30 white marbles, 30 = 6n + 4m. Given that m and n are both positive integers:

(m,n) = (3,3),(6,1)

If n = 1, the number of red marbles in Bag A = 2.
If n = 3, the number of red marbles in Bag A = 6.

Since 6 is the only answer among the 5 that satisfies the above conditions, the answer is D.
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Re: Red + White Marbles [#permalink] New post 07 Nov 2011, 22:36
white marbles in A are both multiple of 2 & 3.
hence possible numbers are 6,12,18 etc.

checking for 6, Red in A = 2,Blue = 9 and White in B= 24.
but 2 is not an answer option.

so checking for 18, in A, Red = 6,Blue = 27,White in B = 12.

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Bag A contains red, white and blue marbles such that the red to white marble ratio is 1:3 and the white to blue marble ratio is 2:3. Bag B contains red and white marbles in the ratio of 1:4. Together, the two bags contain 30 white marbles. How many red marbles could be in bag A?

A) 1
B) 3
C) 4
D) 6
E) 8

Guys - can someone please help by explaining this problem?


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We need the relation between number of red, white and total number of marbles.

We don't know what that relation in bag A. Let's find it out first.
Red:White = 1:3 = 2:6
White:Blue = 2:3 = 6:9
Red:White:Blue = 2:6:9
In bag A, if you have 17 marbles, 2 will be Red, 6 will be White and 9 will be Blue.
If you have 34 marbles, 4 will be Red, 12 will be White and 18 will be Blue etc
No of white marbles could be 6/12/18/24... etc
No of red marbles could be 2/4/6/8/... etc

In bag B,
Red:White = 1:4
If you have 5 marbles, 1 will be Red, 4 will be White.
If you have 10 marbles, 2 will be Red, 8 will be White.
etc
No of white marbles could be 4/8/12/16... etc
No of red marbles could be 1/2/3/4... etc

Total number of white marbles = 30
There are two ways in which we could have obtained 30.
White marbles in (Bag A, Bag B) = (6, 24) or (18, 12)

If Bag A has 6 white marbles, it will have 2 red marbles.
If Bag A has 18 white marbles, it will have 6 red marbles.

Answer (D).
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R:W 1:3 = 2:6
W:B 2:3 = 6:9
R:W:B = 2:6:9

Open Ratio Box
R W B Total
Bag A 2 6 9 17
Multiplier X X X X
Total


R W B Total
Bag B 1 4 0 5
Multiplier X X X X
Total



R W B Total
Bag A+B 3 10 9 22
Multiplier X X X X
Total 30


find the multiplier X from the Bag A+B ratio box

10*X=30
X=3

substitute X value in the first box
R=2*(3)=6


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