I think 3underscore does a great job of explaining why these H1B restrictions are bad for business and bad for the US economy. Let me make few more points here:
1) As others have pointed out, it is infinitely harder to get a job (any job) for international student in this country. Remember, it is not a level playing field by any sense of the term. There are 65k annual quotas for H1B visas (with 20k extra for intl. student with graduate degree from a US university). Against a backdrop of 5 million+ jobs that the US economy creates (admittedly not in the recent months) every year, the number of H1B workers is minuscule. Also, have you noticed that when you go to Career fairs, a vast majority of employers have "will not sponsor for visas" plastered all over their booth? And, with an average of $10k in legal and processing fees to hire H1Bs, why would any employer go through all that interviewing (and extra costs) to hire international MBAs if they did not see value (especially since the starting compensation is exactly the same for both domestic and intl. MBA students)?
2) This is a classic protectionist reaction because of the recession. Remember, it is easy to blame the H1B worker for taking away your job (especially if you happen to be in IT) but 4.4 million jobs have been lost since the recession began in December 2007 and the total number of H1B workers in the US is probably less than 500k (since they are only valid for 3 years at a time and maximum of 6 years). Case in point, BofA has cut around 30k people since its merger with Merrill but the total number of H1B worker in the combined company is less than couple of hundred.
3) Protectionist labor policy, like this one, does not help the US economy because as it has been widely commented these 'lost' jobs (because of H1B restrictions) do not get filled by US citizen. They get outsourced to India/China/Europe/Canada (pick your place). Case in point, Merrill Lynch started a whole new technology center in Toronto in 2007 because of onerous visas restrictions in the US, which now employs nearly a thousand people. Now since H1B workers pay all taxes (including Medicare and Social Security, which they do not get any benefits for) just like every one else, think about how much money the US govt. lost to Canada due to this one specific example? (average of $10k per worker per year, i.e. $1 million in lost taxes per year)
I know lot of you may disagree with some of my points above, but since I value the discussion in this forum a lot more than others (like for example Business Week forum where all people seem to do is shout obscenity at each other, especially with this particular issue).
Let's hear the counterpoints!
3underscore wrote:
Toubab.
Applying against over 70 people directly, probably 300 people nationally, interviewing against 12 and then 6, working alongside a big number of people this summer for ten weeks and - *then* - getting a job offer.
I somehow consider that as proving I am better than any American alternative they found along the way. Do you think people on Wall Street naturally want to employ Internationals? No, they would prefer to employ people as much like them as possible. Internationals happily take this challenge to prove themselves beyond that mark, and when they get jobs they have a good right to feel they have proven themselves better than a good number of alternatives. The recruitment process is set up that way.
Your argument only has any substance if you cut every single job to MBAs, and then employ people cut from wall street. But that isn't what is happening, and isn't a direct comparable. Apparently Americans who did the same as an International are allowed jobs, Internationals are not. On a comparative basis, with no measure of whether they think the Internationals were worse or better in that set. It is simply a split on the basis of whether you have the right passport.
I am not sure really how you plan to defend this without considering yourself, or the policy, protectionist. But please, fire away.