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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2011, 02:40
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I've done all the OG12 SC q's now. Compared to Aristotle I find that OG12 differ a lot more in difficulty.
A lot of OG questions are very easy, some medium and the rest very difficult. Some questions I could not make any sense out of at all.

I have only 2 weeks left until G-day (22 February) so I'll propably be better of by focusing on quailty instead of quantity. From now on I'll re-read Aristotle, read Manhattan SC, and focus on OG11, re-do OG12 and some Veritas SC.
I hope that will suffice for me to reach about 75% correct SC on G-day.


I found the same. the latter questions (95+) of OG12 were more difficult. I will be going through OG12 again :) but this time i will try to find explanations from Ron Purenwala. I heard good things about his explanations.

As for Aristotle, i think its questions are of medium level and are easier to detect faults. My accuracy rate was 75%+.
what are your thoughts about it?

are you planning to do 1000s SC questions?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2011, 03:27
Okay, could you point me in Ron's direction ? :-)

I think Aristotle is good for learning basic concepts like, "if/whether", "such as/like", when to use "which" or "that". But when you reach a certain level in SC that isn't sufficient. However, Aristotle has helped me to rule out some of the alternatives when in doubt, increasing my chances from like 33% to 50% or so.

I'll try to get the most out of the quality questions before approaching SC, we'll see if I'll have the time.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2011, 03:36
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Okay, could you point me in Ron's direction ? :-)



Here you go - http://www.beatthegmat.com/member18648.html

I was informed that this guys explanations are THE best for SC.
OG12 + lunarpower explanation.

follow him at btg.

I will be more than happy if i could start hitting 75% correct on SCs.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 03:54
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Okay, could you point me in Ron's direction ? :-)



Here you go - http://www.beatthegmat.com/member18648.html

I was informed that this guys explanations are THE best for SC.
OG12 + lunarpower explanation.

follow him at btg.

I will be more than happy if i could start hitting 75% correct on SCs.


Thanks :-)

I've only 11 days left now, my plan is to work through OG 10/11/12 + Manhattan SC + Aristotle SC until I've exhausted everything there is to know from those books.

I'm near 95-100% in both RC and CR so hopefully 1,5 week 200% SC focus will raise my SC-level a few notches.

Are you doing the 1000SC ?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 04:10
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I'm near 95-100% in both RC and CR so hopefully 1,5 week 200% SC focus will raise my SC-level a few notches.

Are you doing the 1000SC ?



That's awesome that you are consistently getting 95%-100% in CR & RC. Well done.
Don't forget quant section. Its very important to be in touch with quant techniques, which you have learnt over the course of 2 months.

Every morning, before going to work, i go through GMATclubs Maths book. It helps. At least gives me a confidence.

No as i mentioned before i will not go through 1000SC because of negative comments by other users.
I have started OG12 (again) but this time focus is more on explanations provided by different users such as Lunarpower, daag etc.

did you do RC99 and CR100 from Aristotle?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 06:11
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I'm near 95-100% in both RC and CR so hopefully 1,5 week 200% SC focus will raise my SC-level a few notches.

Are you doing the 1000SC ?



That's awesome that you are consistently getting 95%-100% in CR & RC. Well done.
Don't forget quant section. Its very important to be in touch with quant techniques, which you have learnt over the course of 2 months.

Every morning, before going to work, i go through GMATclubs Maths book. It helps. At least gives me a confidence.

No as i mentioned before i will not go through 1000SC because of negative comments by other users.
I have started OG12 (again) but this time focus is more on explanations provided by different users such as Lunarpower, daag etc.

did you do RC99 and CR100 from Aristotle?


Thanks. Yeah it would not be wise to focus and increase SC only to see that Q has decreased correspondingly.
Do you have any advice for math material? I've exhausted all my books, I'd rather focus on improving the basics at 600-750 level than spending time doing 700-800-level questions not likely to show up on GMAT.

I think the decision regarding 1000SC is wise, I'm sticking on the same path :-).

As for RC99 and CR100, I haven't used them, I'm kind of used to read scientific journals and english novels so it wouldn't make much sense to get RC99, at least for me.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 06:17
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I've exhausted all my books, I'd rather focus on improving the basics at 600-750 level than spending time doing 700-800-level questions not likely to show up on GMAT.

I think the decision regarding 1000SC is wise, I'm sticking on the same path :-).
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I have bought GMAThacks 10 sets of 100 questions. But if i were you i will buy GMAThack's Ps & DS set. And still if you have some time left then go through GMATclubs M01 till M05. I'm confident you will achieve what you aim for.

I have used GmatHack's material and it has improved my score from Q35 to Q48.

what was your hit rate % on Aristotle's SC questions?

My G day is on 28th March 2011.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 06:50
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I've exhausted all my books, I'd rather focus on improving the basics at 600-750 level than spending time doing 700-800-level questions not likely to show up on GMAT.

I think the decision regarding 1000SC is wise, I'm sticking on the same path :-).
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I have bought GMAThacks 10 sets of 100 questions. But if i were you i will buy GMAThack's Ps & DS set. And still if you have some time left then go through GMATclubs M01 till M05. I'm confident you will achieve what you aim for.

I have used GmatHack's material and it has improved my score from Q35 to Q48.

what was your hit rate % on Aristotle's SC questions?

My G day is on 28th March 2011.


Lots of questions :-). I just found out that I could borrow Nova Math Bible from a friend, so I'll propably stick to that one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/188905 ... 1889057509). The book has classified problems after diffiulty which is great.

I was propably around 75%ish correct in Aristotle. I'm going to go through the questions again tonight or tomorrow.
I don't remember most of the questions so it is still good practice. I learn new things every time so.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 06:57
What is your strategy for next 11 days, in terms of SC?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 07:04
I've just had an exam in school so I will have the time for studying 24/7 % for the coming 11 days.

I'm thinking of going through Aristotle day 1, Manhattan SC day 2, Aristotle day 3 and so on until I've learned most of the concepts being taught. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours (max) to go through each book since I've already spent some time with them and know the basics. Then I'll do 30-50 SC or so and spend the rest of the time practice quant.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 07:07
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I've just had an exam in school so I will have the time for studying 24/7 % for the coming 11 days.

I'm thinking of going through Aristotle day 1, Manhattan SC day 2, Aristotle day 3 and so on until I've learned most of the concepts being taught. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours (max) to go through each book since I've already spent some time with them and know the basics. Then I'll do 30-50 SC or so and spend the rest of the time practice quant.



Sounds good to me. How about SC questions? what source will you use?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 07:09
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I've just had an exam in school so I will have the time for studying 24/7 % for the coming 11 days.

I'm thinking of going through Aristotle day 1, Manhattan SC day 2, Aristotle day 3 and so on until I've learned most of the concepts being taught. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours (max) to go through each book since I've already spent some time with them and know the basics. Then I'll do 30-50 SC or so and spend the rest of the time practice quant.



Sounds good to me. How about SC questions? what source will you use?


Mainly OG 10/11/12
Secondly Veritas Manhattan Aristotle
Third 1000s and extra material (if I have the time, propably not)
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 09:53
I just went thru the Barrons GRE wordlist (I gave GRE 10 yrs ago with 640/800 in verbal), I find it really smooths the RC maze, as you start getting the tougher passages.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 09:56
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I've just had an exam in school so I will have the time for studying 24/7 % for the coming 11 days.

I'm thinking of going through Aristotle day 1, Manhattan SC day 2, Aristotle day 3 and so on until I've learned most of the concepts being taught. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours (max) to go through each book since I've already spent some time with them and know the basics. Then I'll do 30-50 SC or so and spend the rest of the time practice quant.



Sounds good to me. How about SC questions? what source will you use?


Are you using OG10? 250SC quality questions, some duplicates to OG11 and 12 though, but a lot new to me.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2011, 13:47
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Are you using OG10? 250SC quality questions, some duplicates to OG11 and 12 though, but a lot new to me.


Unfortunately i donn have OG10. Do you have pdf format or hardcopy?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2011, 07:05
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Are you using OG10? 250SC quality questions, some duplicates to OG11 and 12 though, but a lot new to me.


Unfortunately i donn have OG10. Do you have pdf format or hardcopy?


I've sent you a PM.

Do you think it's a good idea to save questions when you are uncertain and go through them again?

My current strategy is to save all questions where I'm wrong or in doubt and go through them until I'm certain what's wrong with all alternatives.
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2011, 09:04
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Okay, could you point me in Ron's direction ? :-)



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I was informed that this guys explanations are THE best for SC.
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follow him at btg.

I will be more than happy if i could start hitting 75% correct on SCs.


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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2011, 14:43
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I've sent you a PM.

Do you think it's a good idea to save questions when you are uncertain and go through them again?

My current strategy is to save all questions where I'm wrong or in doubt and go through them until I'm certain what's wrong with all alternatives.



Hey thanks for the link.

Yes i agree with RK1, If i were you i will go through all my incorrect questions after every 2 days. Also to look for similar kind of questions on this website.

You got 10 days to go, so its bit difficult to say what to do, as i am still far from being in your situation.
Are you planning to write 3-4 Mock test before G day?
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Re: BEAT the BEAST with Non-Native speaker. [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2011, 15:40
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I've sent you a PM.

Do you think it's a good idea to save questions when you are uncertain and go through them again?

My current strategy is to save all questions where I'm wrong or in doubt and go through them until I'm certain what's wrong with all alternatives.



Hey thanks for the link.

Yes i agree with RK1, If i were you i will go through all my incorrect questions after every 2 days. Also to look for similar kind of questions on this website.

You got 10 days to go, so its bit difficult to say what to do, as i am still far from being in your situation.
Are you planning to write 3-4 Mock test before G day?


Okay, I'm doing a lot better now, I had 6 or 7 incorrect out of the first 80 questions in OG10. I don't know if they'll get harder but I guess I'll find out.
I recognize some questions but can't remember the answers so it is all good.

Starting tomorrow or Monday I'll write a couple of AWA-essays for practice (using the famous template here) and thereafter do two full tests, propably Wednesday and Friday (exam on Tuesday after the weekend).

I'm kind of used to sit for long hours in school, the exams usually last for 4-6 hours, but they arent as stressing as the GMAT. Two full tests should help me prepare a little more for the GMAT.
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