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22.Bill Walton continued on playing, even though he had injuries that recurred over and over again, always hoping to return back to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved.

(A) on playing, even though he had injuries that recurred over and over again, always hoping to return back
(B) playing, in spite of recurrent injuries, always hoping to return
(C) playing, though injured over and over, and he was always hoping to return back
(D) on playing, even with injuries that recurred, and always hoped to return
(E) to play, despite recurring injuries, hoping that the return
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Pls explain your answer....I really would like to know some ambiguous point of which I will post later.
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New post 18 May 2006, 10:25
I think the answer is B. Nothing else seems to sound right.
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Could u explain more about choice B?I will split it separately.

1.Bill Walton continued playing---S+V
2.in spite of recurrent injuries----Prep. phrase
3.always hoping to return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved. ---What is it function?
If it functions as " relative clause", The relative clause shoud be placed near Bill Walton, isn't it ?
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New post 18 May 2006, 10:48
in E the last part of the sentence is ambiguous and seems wrong...

"hoping that the return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved"

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New post 18 May 2006, 10:54
Thanks you "gordon"
I find something interesting which makes our discussion more confusing. Ha..ha.. :roll: :roll:
Please see as this link, u can see similar kinds of logical
http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=27932&highlight=economists
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That post seems fine to me ong. Can you pinpoint your doubt?
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Could u explain more about choice B?I will split it separately.

1.Bill Walton continued playing---S+V
2.in spite of recurrent injuries----Prep. phrase
3.always hoping to return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved. ---What is it function?
If it functions as " relative clause", The relative clause shoud be placed near Bill Walton, isn't it ?

My point is "3.always hoping to return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved. ---[color=red]What is it function? "
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According to some economists, Japan is in danger of plunging into a depression that, with double-digit unemployment, could severely strain a society that regards lifetime employment as a virtual right of citizenship.
Could u see "that" which modify "depression" ?
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New post 18 May 2006, 11:21
Dear ong,

do you know the OA to this question..if yes please share that with us.

About the economist post, I still dont see how that relates to this question. and what do you really mean by "what is it function" what exactly are u referring to?

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New post 18 May 2006, 11:32
OA is B

" gordon" thanks you , I would like to say "what fuction is it" not "what is it function?" sorry for a mistake
I did not understand in choice B in that
Why structure is " clause, prep.phrase,V......."Could someone explain me more this sentence?
In choic B, it is problematic with grammar,isn't it?
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New post 18 May 2006, 14:11
^ B ^

(A) "recurred over and over again" ---> redundant

(C) "injured over and over" ---> redundant

(D) wordy

(E) "hoping that the return" is not forming a sentence
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New post 18 May 2006, 19:33
D is out just coz of wordiness or is it coz it is not parallel?..playing...and always hoped to return,,
Can some one tell the problem wit option D.

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^ B ^

(A) "recurred over and over again" ---> redundant

(C) "injured over and over" ---> redundant

(D) wordy

(E) "hoping that the return" is not forming a sentence
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New post 18 May 2006, 22:34
B it is. Removes a lot of redundancies
Continued on is redundant
Return back is redundant.
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As refering this link, I learn only that the criteria is redunduncies, concise
1.returned back,
2.recurring over and over
3.continue on
4.usage of continue is
- continue to do
- continue doing
However, I still get in doubt that there are no any conjucntion, and illogical relative clause in choice B thus make me refusing the OA.
In choice B, it should be rectifed like this.
In spite of recurrent injuries,Bill Walton continued playing and always hoping to return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved.

I would be appreciated if someone explained me why choice B is correct :shock:
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Dear Ong,

You really dont need the conjunction 'and ' as you in red. we are not trying to join two sentences here. A comma suffices.
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OA is B.
(A) on playing, even though he had injuries that recurred over and over again, always hoping to return back
(i)"continue on doing sth." is redundant. It should be "continue doing sth."
(ii)"recurred over and over again" is redundant; "recurrent" itself is enough.
(iii)"return back" is redundant, we prefer "return".
(B) playing, in spite of recurrent injuries, always hoping to return
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(C) playing, though injured over and over, and he was always hoping to return back
(i)"over and over" is incomplete. "over and over again" is complete but redundant. We prefer "recurrent".
(ii)The structure [,and] is correct grammatically. However, in the context "always hoping to return" work as a background, which explain why Bill Walton continued playing. Therefore we shall not use this parallel structure.
(iii)"return back" is redundant, we prefer "return".
(D) on playing, even with injuries that recurred, and always hoped to return
(i)"continue on doing sth." is redundant. It should be "continue doing sth."
(ii)"injuries that recurred" is redundant; "recurrent injuries" works well. Note that "recurring" is incorrect since there does exist "recurrent"
(iii)The structure [,and] is correct grammatically. However, in the context "always hoping to return" work as a background, which explain why Bill Walton continued playing. Therefore we shall not use this parallel structure.
(E) to play, despite recurring injuries, hoping that the return
(i)As an infinitive, "to play" means this action is starting now, but we can't be sure that it will continue. Not correspond with "continue".
(ii)"the return" is a noun, but we need a verb in the clause after "hoping".
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Dear,

"Even though, Although, Though" (conjunctions) and "despite, in spite of" (prepositions) are used in Clause of Contrast, or Concessive Clause.

1) "Even though, Although, Though" are used to begin a clause (because they are conjunctions).
Ex: Although/ Though/ Even though Mrs. Sims had lived in Hong Kong all her life, she knew very little Cantonese.

When they are in the middle of the sentence, the comma is UNNECESSARY (years ago when I studied traditional British English, it is considered wrong to place comma in the middle with these conjunctions. Now all are ok)
Ex: He ​decided to go, although/ though/ even though I ​begged him not to.

2) "Despite, In spite of" are used to begin a phrase: a noun phrase or gerund (V-ing) (because they are prepositions).
Ex: Despite working hard, I got low scores in GMAT exam = In spite of my hard work, I got low scores in GMAT exam.

When they are in the middle of the sentence, again, no comma is required. (it is OK to include).
Ex: The daughter was ruled to be the beneficiary of the estate, in spite of the court challenge.
I refused to retake GMAT exam despite having money.

To your question, in this case of "despite/ in spite of", there is NO conjunction (if there is, the sentence is INCORRECT) because "despite/ in spite of" already play the role of joining two part of the sentence (and the part "despite/ in spite of" control is called PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE. It is easy to understand because "despite/ in spite of" are prepositions)

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As refering this link, I learn only that the criteria is redunduncies, concise
1.returned back,
2.recurring over and over
3.continue on
4.usage of continue is
- continue to do
- continue doing
However, I still get in doubt that there are no any conjucntion, and illogical relative clause in choice B thus make me refusing the OA.
In choice B, it should be rectifed like this.
In spite of recurrent injuries,Bill Walton continued playing and always hoping to return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved.

I would be appreciated if someone explained me why choice B is correct :shock:
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I am limiting my discussion to your doubts on B. -- (B) playing, in spite of recurrent injuries, always hoping to return...

The clause that you refer as an illogical clause is “always hoping to return “. Please note that this is not a clause. It is a modifying phrase, and in this it is an adverbial modifier that modifies the previous clause namely Bill continued playing. It may be noted that the whole sentence with the following structure. -- A clause + a prepositional phrase + an adverbial modifier --. Adverbial modifiers need not touch what they modify a per grammar norms.

Since there is only one clause in the whole sentence, a conjunction is not required per se; a conjunction is required only when you want to join two structurally equal clauses or phrases or words.

Coming to your rectified edition of B: This structure is not parallel; you are joining a verbed clause (Bill continued playing) with a verbless phrase (always hoping to return to his position as a regular starter in the game he loved.) using a parallelism marker ‘and’. Whenever ‘and’ is used, one should first worry about parallelism as many of the parallelism errors in GMAT are built around the use of ‘and’

Perhaps now it may be clear why the choice B is simple and concise enough to convey the intended meaning.
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